Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless survey results

2005-07-18 Thread Lee Badman
Saccheen,

Good work, and congratulations on closing in your MS degree. For what
it's worth, it would also be nice to see how college campuses are
addressing issues of guest access/open access on the campus wireless
networks. Your work is obviously done, but this info would really help
round out the whole picture, in my opinion.

Lee

Lee H. Badman
Network Engineer
CWSP, CWNA (CWNP011288)
Computing and Media Services (NSS)
250 Machinery Hall
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244
(315) 443-3003 Voice
(315) 443-1621 Fax


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/17/05 7:39 PM 
Hello,

I had recently posted a survey on this forum in order to investigate
wireless
deployments in higher education. I have completed the study and hence,
in
keeping with the policy of Educause, I have attached a SYNOPSIS of the
research
and the FULL REPORT at the following link: 
 
http://people.sunyit.edu/~martins5/ 

Thanks to everyone who participated in the research and gave invaluable
feedback.

Regards,
Saccheen Martin
(Graduate student in the department of Telecommunications at SUNYIT)

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless survey results

2005-07-18 Thread Scott, Candice C
Good morning, All.

I would also like to know what other campuses are doing for guest
access.  We have several camps here during the summer and this is the
first year that we've also had people assuming that they could get
access -- also assuming no charges for it.

Have any of you been down this road?  How are you handling it?

thanks --
candice


Candice Scott
Dir. of Library and IT Services
Schreiner University
Kerrville, TX  78028

-Original Message-
From: Lee Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 8:00 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless survey results

Saccheen,

Good work, and congratulations on closing in your MS degree. For what
it's worth, it would also be nice to see how college campuses are
addressing issues of guest access/open access on the campus wireless
networks. Your work is obviously done, but this info would really help
round out the whole picture, in my opinion.

Lee

Lee H. Badman
Network Engineer
CWSP, CWNA (CWNP011288)
Computing and Media Services (NSS)
250 Machinery Hall
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244
(315) 443-3003 Voice
(315) 443-1621 Fax


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/17/05 7:39 PM 
Hello,

I had recently posted a survey on this forum in order to investigate
wireless
deployments in higher education. I have completed the study and hence,
in
keeping with the policy of Educause, I have attached a SYNOPSIS of the
research
and the FULL REPORT at the following link: 
 
http://people.sunyit.edu/~martins5/ 

Thanks to everyone who participated in the research and gave invaluable
feedback.

Regards,
Saccheen Martin
(Graduate student in the department of Telecommunications at SUNYIT)

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless survey results

2005-07-18 Thread ray
Here's how we handle guest access.  All of our APs are on a separate VLAN
behind a linux firewall/router.  Your mac address must be registered in
LDAP before you're permitted past the firewall (which is done online).

For guests, they have to know someone on campus.  They click the guest
link on the wireless login page, fill in their name, email, company, and
the email address of someone they know on campus (with selu.edu domain).
That person will get an email saying Joe Somebody wants wireless access, 
click here to approve it or ignore this message to deny it.  If they 
approve, the guest will be allowed wireless access for two days.

It isn't the best security, it's basically the honor system.  But it's a
good tradeoff between security, usability, and low administration.  To
date, we haven't had any problems with anyone abusing the guest system.  
I'd also like to hear how others are handling guest access.

ray
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ray DeJean   http://www.r-a-y.org
Systems EngineerSoutheastern Louisiana University
IBM Certified Specialist  AIX Administration, AIX Support
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=



On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Scott, Candice C wrote:

 Good morning, All.
 
 I would also like to know what other campuses are doing for guest
 access.  We have several camps here during the summer and this is the
 first year that we've also had people assuming that they could get
 access -- also assuming no charges for it.
 
 Have any of you been down this road?  How are you handling it?
 
 thanks --
 candice
 
 
 Candice Scott
 Dir. of Library and IT Services
 Schreiner University
 Kerrville, TX  78028

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless survey results

2005-07-18 Thread Saccheen Martin
Hello,

In the wireless study, I did try to address some of the general steps that 
schools have taken to address guest access/open access on the wireless 
network. Below gives a brief description of my findings:

In a closed only network implementation where only authorized users (such as 
faculty and students) can access the wireless network, guests can be granted 
access to the wireless network once they are sponsored by an authorized 
faculty or employee. Otherwise, they must request access, well in advance, and 
provide MAC address or other credentials. 

In both a closed and open network implemenation where certain areas 
are closed for student and employee access only, and others are open 
(hotspots), school indicated different access policies for guests. Some 
schools indicated that guests or unauthorized users are directed to a service 
providerÂ’s network if they try to log on to the campusÂ’ network. Here, they 
are obliged to pay for the wireless access. Other schools leave access points 
that cover the library or conference rooms open so that a guest (authorized 
or unauthorized) can access the wireless network for free but they are granted 
limited access to network resources such as the internet.

Regards,
Saccheen Martin
(Graduate student in the department of Telecommunications at SUNYIT)


Quoting Lee Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Saccheen,
 
 Good work, and congratulations on closing in your MS degree. For what
 it's worth, it would also be nice to see how college campuses are
 addressing issues of guest access/open access on the campus wireless
 networks. Your work is obviously done, but this info would really help
 round out the whole picture, in my opinion.
 
 Lee
 
 Lee H. Badman
 Network Engineer
 CWSP, CWNA (CWNP011288)
 Computing and Media Services (NSS)
 250 Machinery Hall
 Syracuse University
 Syracuse, NY 13244
 (315) 443-3003 Voice
 (315) 443-1621 Fax
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/17/05 7:39 PM 
 Hello,
 
 I had recently posted a survey on this forum in order to investigate
 wireless
 deployments in higher education. I have completed the study and hence,
 in
 keeping with the policy of Educause, I have attached a SYNOPSIS of the
 research
 and the FULL REPORT at the following link: 
  
 http://people.sunyit.edu/~martins5/ 
 
 Thanks to everyone who participated in the research and gave invaluable
 feedback.
 
 Regards,
 Saccheen Martin
 (Graduate student in the department of Telecommunications at SUNYIT)
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless survey results

2005-07-18 Thread Ken Connell
Here at Ryerson people visiting and wanting wireless access are to
contact our conference services at which point a staff member will enter
in a temporary user ID into LDAP via a custom web page and choose a date
to expire that entry.
The user then falls into 1 of 3 guest networks and is forced to login
via captive portal.



Ken Connell
Intermediate Network Engineer
Computer  Communication Services
Ryerson University
350 Victoria St
RM AB50
Toronto, Ont
M5B 2K3
416-979-5000 x6709

- Original Message -
From: ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:42 am
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless survey results

 Here's how we handle guest access.  All of our APs are on a 
 separate VLAN
 behind a linux firewall/router.  Your mac address must be 
 registered in
 LDAP before you're permitted past the firewall (which is done online).
 
 For guests, they have to know someone on campus.  They click the guest
 link on the wireless login page, fill in their name, email, 
 company, and
 the email address of someone they know on campus (with selu.edu 
 domain).That person will get an email saying Joe Somebody wants 
 wireless access, 
 click here to approve it or ignore this message to deny it.  If 
 they 
 approve, the guest will be allowed wireless access for two days.
 
 It isn't the best security, it's basically the honor system.  But 
 it's a
 good tradeoff between security, usability, and low administration.  To
 date, we haven't had any problems with anyone abusing the guest 
 system.  
 I'd also like to hear how others are handling guest access.
 
 ray
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Ray DeJean   http://www.r-a-y.org
 Systems EngineerSoutheastern Louisiana University
 IBM Certified Specialist  AIX Administration, AIX Support
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 
 
 
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Scott, Candice C wrote:
 
  Good morning, All.
  
  I would also like to know what other campuses are doing for guest
  access.  We have several camps here during the summer and this is 
 the first year that we've also had people assuming that they could 
 get access -- also assuming no charges for it.
  
  Have any of you been down this road?  How are you handling it?
  
  thanks --
  candice
  
  
  Candice Scott
  Dir. of Library and IT Services
  Schreiner University
  Kerrville, TX  78028
 
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