RE: Ekahau Update

[Lee H Badman]

Maybe wrong recipient?

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Ian Lyons
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:17 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update

I have touched base with Steve and the rest of the group.  Steve has an 
proposal in front of corporate and will reach back to us first week of October.

Standby.

Ian

Cheers
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Ekahau Update

[Ian Lyons]

I have touched base with Steve and the rest of the group.  Steve has an 
proposal in front of corporate and will reach back to us first week of October.

Standby.

Ian

Cheers
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RE: Ekahau Update

[Phill Solomon]

Thanks so much for this.

Regards Phill

Phill Solomon
Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering)
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Ian Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2021 3:50 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update

Good Day Everyone!

Eric and I were happy to host a meeting with many of you about Ekahau last 
Friday.

We had a peak of 28 folks and an average of 18!  Thank you for coming!

The meeting started with introductions and that lasted about the first 20 min 
or so.
Steve (VP Global Sales) and Stewart (SE North America) were Ekahau 
representatives. Both started ~2 years ago

Then we segued into how people used the product:
Sidekick, AP on a stick, Design, Analysis, Engineering, and proof of 
engineering were the common threads.

Steve opened the introductions and brought up a point that Ekahau EULA was 
always 1:1. Members that have been using the product for 8+ years have evidence 
that it was initially concurrent users' vs 1:1.  Further the "teeth" that made 
sharing the gear difficult became active in version 10.3.

Many schools, large and small, with disparate sized teams as well as healthcare 
indicated that there isn't a 1 size fits all.

Pro's and Con's:
Some folks have deep pockets and will fund other active users.  Others stated 
that the device is used periodically and could be used by interns for site 
surveys up to proof of design and engineering validation by FTE's.
Use of a physical hardware license key was discussed:  On the one hand it makes 
it easier to tie to license to something, but that has the impact of requiring 
people to come into contact to hand it off.
The spirit of the device was a sporadically used tool but only 1 person at a 
time.

Some suggestions by the group and Ekahau, were a tiered approach of access.

Where we left things is that Stephen (SVP of Sales) will work with his 
management to determine an alternate EULA\connection model that will better fit 
our needs (those on the call).  We agreed to another meeting, ideally in 8 
weeks' time to review Stephen's work on our behalf.

Steve was adamant that any problems by the group accessing a tool because of 
lock out/access please send an email to him (email info below) and he will help 
get you access to the tool again.

steve.lit...@ekahau.com<mailto:steve.lit...@ekahau.com>
stewart.goum...@ekahau.com<mailto:stewart.goum...@ekahau.com>

Link to the Meeting
Webex meeting recording: Ekahau and Educause WIFI Group
Password: EducauseWifi
Recording link: 
https://rollins.webex.com/rollins/ldr.php?RCID=12596eece193961c0a7e8c4c5e51a99e

*Any mistakes in the summarization are mine, on how the product works or ties 
together.  I do not have the product, so my knowledge gaps were a result of 
unfamiliarity of the product and a poor google search to educate myself.

Cheers
Ian J Lyons
Network Architect - Rollins College
401.413.1661 Cell
407.628.6396 Desk



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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update

[Rodolfo Nunez]

Great work. This is a great example that  we have some say as a community.
Hoping for a good outcome.
Rodolfo

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:01 PM Jason Cook 
wrote:

> Excellent work. Thanks Everyone
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jason Cook
>
> Information Technology and Digital Services
>
> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
>
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> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Ian Lyons
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 August 2021 3:20 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update
>
>
>
> Good Day Everyone!
>
>
>
> Eric and I were happy to host a meeting with many of you about Ekahau last
> Friday.
>
>
>
> We had a peak of 28 folks and an average of 18!  Thank you for coming!
>
>
>
> The meeting started with introductions and that lasted about the first 20
> min or so.
>
> Steve (VP Global Sales) and Stewart (SE North America) were Ekahau
> representatives. Both started ~2 years ago
>
>
>
> Then we segued into how people used the product:
>
> Sidekick, AP on a stick, Design, Analysis, Engineering, and proof of
> engineering were the common threads.
>
>
>
> Steve opened the introductions and brought up a point that Ekahau EULA was
> always 1:1. Members that have been using the product for 8+ years have
> evidence that it was initially concurrent users’ vs 1:1.  Further the
> "teeth" that made sharing the gear difficult became active in version 10.3.
>
>
>
> Many schools, large and small, with disparate sized teams as well as
> healthcare indicated that there isn’t a 1 size fits all.
>
>
>
> Pro’s and Con’s:
>
> Some folks have deep pockets and will fund other active users.  Others
> stated that the device is used periodically and could be used by interns
> for site surveys up to proof of design and engineering validation by FTE's.
>
>
> Use of a physical hardware license key was discussed:  On the one hand it
> makes it easier to tie to license to something, but that has the impact of
> requiring people to come into contact to hand it off.
>
> The spirit of the device was a sporadically used tool but only 1 person at
> a time.
>
>
>
> Some suggestions by the group and Ekahau, were a tiered approach of
> access.
>
>
>
> Where we left things is that Stephen (SVP of Sales) will work with his
> management to determine an alternate EULA\connection model that will better
> fit our needs (those on the call).  We agreed to another meeting, ideally
> in 8 weeks’ time to review Stephen's work on our behalf.
>
>
>
> Steve was adamant that any problems by the group accessing a tool because
> of lock out/access please send an email to him (email info below) and he
> will help get you access to the tool again.
>
>
>
> steve.lit...@ekahau.com
>
> stewart.goum...@ekahau.com
>
>
>
> Link to the Meeting
>
> Webex meeting recording: Ekahau and Educause WIFI Group
>
> Password: EducauseWifi
>
> Recording link:
> https://rollins.webex.com/rollins/ldr.php?RCID=12596eece193961c0a7e8c4c5e51a99e
>
>
>
>
> *Any mistakes in the summarization are mine, on how the product works or
> ties together.  I do not have the product, so my knowledge gaps were a
> result of unfamiliarity of the product and a poor google search to educate
> myself.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian J Lyons
>
> Network Architect - Rollins College
>
> 401.413.1661 Cell
>
> 407.628.6396 Desk
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Ekahau Update

[Jason Cook]

Excellent work. Thanks Everyone

--
Jason Cook
Information Technology and Digital Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Ian Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2021 3:20 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update

Good Day Everyone!

Eric and I were happy to host a meeting with many of you about Ekahau last 
Friday.

We had a peak of 28 folks and an average of 18!  Thank you for coming!

The meeting started with introductions and that lasted about the first 20 min 
or so.
Steve (VP Global Sales) and Stewart (SE North America) were Ekahau 
representatives. Both started ~2 years ago

Then we segued into how people used the product:
Sidekick, AP on a stick, Design, Analysis, Engineering, and proof of 
engineering were the common threads.

Steve opened the introductions and brought up a point that Ekahau EULA was 
always 1:1. Members that have been using the product for 8+ years have evidence 
that it was initially concurrent users' vs 1:1.  Further the "teeth" that made 
sharing the gear difficult became active in version 10.3.

Many schools, large and small, with disparate sized teams as well as healthcare 
indicated that there isn't a 1 size fits all.

Pro's and Con's:
Some folks have deep pockets and will fund other active users.  Others stated 
that the device is used periodically and could be used by interns for site 
surveys up to proof of design and engineering validation by FTE's.
Use of a physical hardware license key was discussed:  On the one hand it makes 
it easier to tie to license to something, but that has the impact of requiring 
people to come into contact to hand it off.
The spirit of the device was a sporadically used tool but only 1 person at a 
time.

Some suggestions by the group and Ekahau, were a tiered approach of access.

Where we left things is that Stephen (SVP of Sales) will work with his 
management to determine an alternate EULA\connection model that will better fit 
our needs (those on the call).  We agreed to another meeting, ideally in 8 
weeks' time to review Stephen's work on our behalf.

Steve was adamant that any problems by the group accessing a tool because of 
lock out/access please send an email to him (email info below) and he will help 
get you access to the tool again.

steve.lit...@ekahau.com<mailto:steve.lit...@ekahau.com>
stewart.goum...@ekahau.com<mailto:stewart.goum...@ekahau.com>

Link to the Meeting
Webex meeting recording: Ekahau and Educause WIFI Group
Password: EducauseWifi
Recording link: 
https://rollins.webex.com/rollins/ldr.php?RCID=12596eece193961c0a7e8c4c5e51a99e

*Any mistakes in the summarization are mine, on how the product works or ties 
together.  I do not have the product, so my knowledge gaps were a result of 
unfamiliarity of the product and a poor google search to educate myself.

Cheers
Ian J Lyons
Network Architect - Rollins College
401.413.1661 Cell
407.628.6396 Desk



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RE: Ekahau Update

[Rios, Hector J]

Ian,

Thank you for putting this together. Let's hope Ekahau is truly receptive and 
they are able to come with alternatives that benefit all of us.

Hector Rios
UT Austin

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Ian Lyons
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 12:50 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update

Good Day Everyone!

Eric and I were happy to host a meeting with many of you about Ekahau last 
Friday.

We had a peak of 28 folks and an average of 18!  Thank you for coming!

The meeting started with introductions and that lasted about the first 20 min 
or so.
Steve (VP Global Sales) and Stewart (SE North America) were Ekahau 
representatives. Both started ~2 years ago

Then we segued into how people used the product:
Sidekick, AP on a stick, Design, Analysis, Engineering, and proof of 
engineering were the common threads.

Steve opened the introductions and brought up a point that Ekahau EULA was 
always 1:1. Members that have been using the product for 8+ years have evidence 
that it was initially concurrent users' vs 1:1.  Further the "teeth" that made 
sharing the gear difficult became active in version 10.3.

Many schools, large and small, with disparate sized teams as well as healthcare 
indicated that there isn't a 1 size fits all.

Pro's and Con's:
Some folks have deep pockets and will fund other active users.  Others stated 
that the device is used periodically and could be used by interns for site 
surveys up to proof of design and engineering validation by FTE's.
Use of a physical hardware license key was discussed:  On the one hand it makes 
it easier to tie to license to something, but that has the impact of requiring 
people to come into contact to hand it off.
The spirit of the device was a sporadically used tool but only 1 person at a 
time.

Some suggestions by the group and Ekahau, were a tiered approach of access.

Where we left things is that Stephen (SVP of Sales) will work with his 
management to determine an alternate EULA\connection model that will better fit 
our needs (those on the call).  We agreed to another meeting, ideally in 8 
weeks' time to review Stephen's work on our behalf.

Steve was adamant that any problems by the group accessing a tool because of 
lock out/access please send an email to him (email info below) and he will help 
get you access to the tool again.

steve.lit...@ekahau.com<mailto:steve.lit...@ekahau.com>
stewart.goum...@ekahau.com<mailto:stewart.goum...@ekahau.com>

Link to the Meeting
Webex meeting recording: Ekahau and Educause WIFI Group
Password: EducauseWifi
Recording link: 
https://rollins.webex.com/rollins/ldr.php?RCID=12596eece193961c0a7e8c4c5e51a99e

*Any mistakes in the summarization are mine, on how the product works or ties 
together.  I do not have the product, so my knowledge gaps were a result of 
unfamiliarity of the product and a poor google search to educate myself.

Cheers
Ian J Lyons
Network Architect - Rollins College
401.413.1661 Cell
407.628.6396 Desk



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Ekahau Update

[Ian Lyons]

Good Day Everyone!

Eric and I were happy to host a meeting with many of you about Ekahau last 
Friday.

We had a peak of 28 folks and an average of 18!  Thank you for coming!

The meeting started with introductions and that lasted about the first 20 min 
or so.
Steve (VP Global Sales) and Stewart (SE North America) were Ekahau 
representatives. Both started ~2 years ago

Then we segued into how people used the product:
Sidekick, AP on a stick, Design, Analysis, Engineering, and proof of 
engineering were the common threads.

Steve opened the introductions and brought up a point that Ekahau EULA was 
always 1:1. Members that have been using the product for 8+ years have evidence 
that it was initially concurrent users’ vs 1:1.  Further the "teeth" that made 
sharing the gear difficult became active in version 10.3.

Many schools, large and small, with disparate sized teams as well as healthcare 
indicated that there isn’t a 1 size fits all.

Pro’s and Con’s:
Some folks have deep pockets and will fund other active users.  Others stated 
that the device is used periodically and could be used by interns for site 
surveys up to proof of design and engineering validation by FTE's.
Use of a physical hardware license key was discussed:  On the one hand it makes 
it easier to tie to license to something, but that has the impact of requiring 
people to come into contact to hand it off.
The spirit of the device was a sporadically used tool but only 1 person at a 
time.

Some suggestions by the group and Ekahau, were a tiered approach of access.

Where we left things is that Stephen (SVP of Sales) will work with his 
management to determine an alternate EULA\connection model that will better fit 
our needs (those on the call).  We agreed to another meeting, ideally in 8 
weeks’ time to review Stephen's work on our behalf.

Steve was adamant that any problems by the group accessing a tool because of 
lock out/access please send an email to him (email info below) and he will help 
get you access to the tool again.

steve.lit...@ekahau.com
stewart.goum...@ekahau.com

Link to the Meeting
Webex meeting recording: Ekahau and Educause WIFI Group
Password: EducauseWifi
Recording link: 
https://rollins.webex.com/rollins/ldr.php?RCID=12596eece193961c0a7e8c4c5e51a99e

*Any mistakes in the summarization are mine, on how the product works or ties 
together.  I do not have the product, so my knowledge gaps were a result of 
unfamiliarity of the product and a poor google search to educate myself.

Cheers
Ian J Lyons
Network Architect - Rollins College
401.413.1661 Cell
407.628.6396 Desk



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