RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

2008-12-17 Thread Roth, Joe
Sorry for dragging up the old post, but what certificate from Thawte did
you use specifically?

TIA,

--Joe

 



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

 

We purchased a certificate from THAWTE and installed in on our
controllers to alleviate this problem. This THAWTE is a valid
certificate authority already listed in all the majority of client
browsers we longer see this error.

 

 

 

John V. Duran
Network Engineer 

University of New Mexico
Information Technology Services
Ph: (505) 249-7890
Fax: (505) 277-8101



 Norman Elton normel...@gmail.com 11/19/2008 7:37 AM 
We're using a Verisign cert on IAS, but our users are still prompted
to accept the cert upon initial connect. We asked Verisign about this,
and they basically said, that's the way it's designed to work. We
did some poking around on the interwebs, and could find a good
solution. This was two or three years ago.

Has anyone managed to find a cert that XP/Vista will accept without
prompting?

Thanks

Norman Elton

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

2008-11-19 Thread Bentley, Douglas
Are you referring to an intermediate Certificate vs. a root?  VeriSign only 
offers intermediate certificate that the WLCs before 5.1 code will not use 
properly. It is an issue with understanding the chaining from what Cisco tells 
us.  We ended up going through Entrust to get a 2 Year root and it fixed our 
cert warning issue immediately.

 

 

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

 

Until now we've been using our regular web / SSL certificate for WPA /

PEAP/MSCHAP purposes, and predictably have run into the usability

issues with certificate trust prompts on the client end. (We use Cisco

LWAPP / Freeradius). It appears VeriSign has a specific Wireless LAN

Server Certificate, and apparently there is work done in IETF

regarding WLAN specific extensions in certificates.

 

After a fair bit of googling I've been unable to find out just what

the difference between a vanilla SSL certificate and a Wireless LAN

Server Certificate is. Presumably the WLAN certificates won't prompt

for the certificate trust, but what other difference, if any, is

there? Are there providers other than VeriSign for these certificates?

(Thawte, for example, seems to refer back to VeriSign for such certs.)

 

Here's the uninformative product page:

http://www.verisign.com/ssl/buy-ssl-certificates/specialized-ssl-certificates/wireless-lan-security/

 

Any advice or links to documentation on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Toivo Voll

Network Administrator

Information Technology Communications

University of South Florida

 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

2008-11-19 Thread Norman Elton
We're using a Verisign cert on IAS, but our users are still prompted
to accept the cert upon initial connect. We asked Verisign about this,
and they basically said, that's the way it's designed to work. We
did some poking around on the interwebs, and could find a good
solution. This was two or three years ago.

Has anyone managed to find a cert that XP/Vista will accept without prompting?

Thanks

Norman Elton

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

2008-11-19 Thread Urrea, Nick
We currently use IAS with the Verisign WLAN cert.
We are going to move away from Verisign for our cert purchases.
Can you use another cert authority besides Verisign for IAS?


Nicholas Urrea
Information Technology 
UC Hastings College of the Law


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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:35 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

We use Verisign and Cisco ACS on LWAPP. After the server names are
listed in the supplicant config and are trusted once, we never see the
cert prompt again. 

(Also- make sure PC date/time is correct- if the PC clock time is way
off, outside of the valid cert time period, the client will never get
past the verify cert bubbles- this one can be maddening to diagnose). 

-Lee

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

We're using a Verisign cert on IAS, but our users are still prompted
to accept the cert upon initial connect. We asked Verisign about this,
and they basically said, that's the way it's designed to work. We
did some poking around on the interwebs, and could find a good
solution. This was two or three years ago.

Has anyone managed to find a cert that XP/Vista will accept without
prompting?

Thanks

Norman Elton

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

2008-11-19 Thread John Duran
We purchased a certificate from THAWTE and installed in on our controllers to 
alleviate this problem. This THAWTE is a valid certificate authority already 
listed in all the majority of client browsers we longer see this error.
 
 
 
John V. Duran
Network Engineer 
University of New Mexico
Information Technology Services
Ph: (505) 249-7890
Fax: (505) 277-8101


 Norman Elton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/2008 7:37 AM 
We're using a Verisign cert on IAS, but our users are still prompted
to accept the cert upon initial connect. We asked Verisign about this,
and they basically said, that's the way it's designed to work. We
did some poking around on the interwebs, and could find a good
solution. This was two or three years ago.

Has anyone managed to find a cert that XP/Vista will accept without prompting?

Thanks

Norman Elton

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

2008-11-18 Thread Lee Weers
I'm using MS IAS with the Verisign server cert, and one difference is I didn't 
have to install IIS to get the certificate.  I don't think I had to generate a 
cert request either.  I just entered the server name online and they generated 
the request and the cert for me.

Those were my differences.

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toivo Voll
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

Until now we've been using our regular web / SSL certificate for WPA /
PEAP/MSCHAP purposes, and predictably have run into the usability
issues with certificate trust prompts on the client end. (We use Cisco
LWAPP / Freeradius). It appears VeriSign has a specific Wireless LAN
Server Certificate, and apparently there is work done in IETF
regarding WLAN specific extensions in certificates.

After a fair bit of googling I've been unable to find out just what
the difference between a vanilla SSL certificate and a Wireless LAN
Server Certificate is. Presumably the WLAN certificates won't prompt
for the certificate trust, but what other difference, if any, is
there? Are there providers other than VeriSign for these certificates?
(Thawte, for example, seems to refer back to VeriSign for such certs.)

Here's the uninformative product page:
http://www.verisign.com/ssl/buy-ssl-certificates/specialized-ssl-certificates/wireless-lan-security/

Any advice or links to documentation on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
Toivo Voll
Network Administrator
Information Technology Communications
University of South Florida

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

2008-11-18 Thread Foerst, Daniel P.
Hi Toivo,

A couple of years ago we too were setting this up and actually ended up
with the Verisign Wireless LAN Server Certificate. I didn't see any
particular difference between this and a web certificate, but perhaps I
don't; know what to look for. What I did encounter was that the CA
verisign used to sign the cert changed / was no longer valid and their
response / the only work around at the time was to configure clients to
not validate the certificate. I am uncertain if this was ever resolved,
but we abandoned this method of secure communications as the demand for
accessing network resources was determined to be non-existent and
instructing use of the wired network to those users that wanted network
resource access.

What is to come in the future who knows, but we are planning that this
may become necessary again.

Sorry I don't have any advice on the documentation.  


Daniel Foerst
Manager, Networks  Security
The Catholic University of America
Washington, DC 20064 
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toivo Voll
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA and Wireless LAN Server Certificate?

Until now we've been using our regular web / SSL certificate for WPA /
PEAP/MSCHAP purposes, and predictably have run into the usability issues
with certificate trust prompts on the client end. (We use Cisco LWAPP /
Freeradius). It appears VeriSign has a specific Wireless LAN Server
Certificate, and apparently there is work done in IETF regarding WLAN
specific extensions in certificates.

After a fair bit of googling I've been unable to find out just what the
difference between a vanilla SSL certificate and a Wireless LAN Server
Certificate is. Presumably the WLAN certificates won't prompt for the
certificate trust, but what other difference, if any, is there? Are
there providers other than VeriSign for these certificates?
(Thawte, for example, seems to refer back to VeriSign for such certs.)

Here's the uninformative product page:
http://www.verisign.com/ssl/buy-ssl-certificates/specialized-ssl-certifi
cates/wireless-lan-security/

Any advice or links to documentation on the matter would be greatly
appreciated.

--
Toivo Voll
Network Administrator
Information Technology Communications
University of South Florida

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