Re: IPTV deployment

2017-04-27 Thread Phil Kono 
Craig,

I'm curious as to what products you've been looking at and what type of media 
you plan on broadcasting. It's something I'm interested in as well and I know 
Cisco is out of the business.

Thanks,

Phil Kono
Network Engineer
Art Center College of Design

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RE: IPTV deployment

2017-04-27 Thread Adam T Ferrero 

  We deployed Xfinity on Campus last summer for 6,000 residents.  Our Comcast 
estimate was max 3 - 5 Gbps additional internet load so we upgraded firewalls 
to accommodate.  Turns out between IPTV and natural growth it was only ~ 1 Gbps 
more than the prior semester.  Almost all of them stream over wireless and we 
have not adjusted the data rates.  Everything is performing well (of course we 
have one AP per suite so coverage is very good).

  Adam

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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 3:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] IPTV deployment

Yes Sir,. both...
I am looking at it from the wireless perspective And my boss is worried :)

Our platform is all Cisco.
8540 controllers (8.3) and a mix of 3502, 3602, 3702, and 3802 WAPs.
Our transmit rates are:
802.11 a
[cid:image001.png@01D2BF77.B58918C0]
802.11 b/g
[cid:image002.png@01D2BF77.B58918C0]

Specs show IPTV needs 2Mbps to stream 720p content to client devices.

>From the wireless perspective, have you (or anyone else on this thread),had 
>any problems with IPTV?
Did you have to adjust your data rates since multicast travels at the lowest 
mandatory?

Thank you for your reply.
//Craig






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(Network Operations)
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:37 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] IPTV deployment

Craig,

Are you looking at this from a wireless perspective, worried, or both?

What is your wireless platform?

We implemented multicast IPTV on Aruba wireless using our existing Haivision 
wired IPTV services. In fact, we helped Aruba test their "Dynamic Multicast 
Optimization" solution.

Generally, for 802.11 networks, multicast is transmitted at the lowest 
transmitted rate. That is bad for multicast video. Since our video streams are 
encrypted, we cannot apply QoS separately to prioritize key frames.

If you wish, I can reach out to our IPTV team to get more information on our 
Haivision (formerly Video Furnace) system.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Baugh, Craig [mailto:c.ba...@tcu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:18 AM
Subject: IPTV deployment

Good morning,
I am looking for any advice from colleges that have implemented IPTV services.
Would like to know of any challenges, limitations, or problems that have come 
up during implementation.


Thank you for your help.

//Craig Baugh
//Network Engineer
//Texas Christian University.

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RE: IPTV deployment

2017-04-27 Thread Reimer, Paul 
The bandwidth needed for streaming on a phone or tablet is about 2Mbps.

I would suggest these are going to have an impact similar to any normal client 
streaming continuously. That would have to be verified.

So whether that is an acceptable impact is up to you. How many are there? What 
have you got serving the area? Should you consider managing the APs they're on 
and the channel they use?

Otherwise I wouldn't change anything about your mandatory rates to accommodate 
them.

I would say 6Mbps seems on the low side for your 5GHz.

-Paul Reimer

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Baugh, Craig
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 3:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] IPTV deployment

Yes Sir,. both...
I am looking at it from the wireless perspective And my boss is worried :)

Our platform is all Cisco.
8540 controllers (8.3) and a mix of 3502, 3602, 3702, and 3802 WAPs.
Our transmit rates are:
802.11 a
[cid:image001.png@01D2BF6F.656B4690]
802.11 b/g
[cid:image002.png@01D2BF6F.656B4690]

Specs show IPTV needs 2Mbps to stream 720p content to client devices.

>From the wireless perspective, have you (or anyone else on this thread),had 
>any problems with IPTV?
Did you have to adjust your data rates since multicast travels at the lowest 
mandatory?

Thank you for your reply.
//Craig






From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Operations)
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:37 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] IPTV deployment

Craig,

Are you looking at this from a wireless perspective, worried, or both?

What is your wireless platform?

We implemented multicast IPTV on Aruba wireless using our existing Haivision 
wired IPTV services. In fact, we helped Aruba test their "Dynamic Multicast 
Optimization" solution.

Generally, for 802.11 networks, multicast is transmitted at the lowest 
transmitted rate. That is bad for multicast video. Since our video streams are 
encrypted, we cannot apply QoS separately to prioritize key frames.

If you wish, I can reach out to our IPTV team to get more information on our 
Haivision (formerly Video Furnace) system.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Baugh, Craig [mailto:c.ba...@tcu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:18 AM
Subject: IPTV deployment

Good morning,
I am looking for any advice from colleges that have implemented IPTV services.
Would like to know of any challenges, limitations, or problems that have come 
up during implementation.


Thank you for your help.

//Craig Baugh
//Network Engineer
//Texas Christian University.

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RE: IPTV deployment

2017-04-27 Thread Baugh, Craig 
Yes Sir,. both...
I am looking at it from the wireless perspective And my boss is worried :)

Our platform is all Cisco.
8540 controllers (8.3) and a mix of 3502, 3602, 3702, and 3802 WAPs.
Our transmit rates are:
802.11 a
[cid:image001.png@01D2BF60.08566110]
802.11 b/g
[cid:image002.png@01D2BF60.08566110]

Specs show IPTV needs 2Mbps to stream 720p content to client devices.

>From the wireless perspective, have you (or anyone else on this thread),had 
>any problems with IPTV?
Did you have to adjust your data rates since multicast travels at the lowest 
mandatory?

Thank you for your reply.
//Craig






From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Operations)
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:37 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] IPTV deployment

Craig,

Are you looking at this from a wireless perspective, worried, or both?

What is your wireless platform?

We implemented multicast IPTV on Aruba wireless using our existing Haivision 
wired IPTV services. In fact, we helped Aruba test their "Dynamic Multicast 
Optimization" solution.

Generally, for 802.11 networks, multicast is transmitted at the lowest 
transmitted rate. That is bad for multicast video. Since our video streams are 
encrypted, we cannot apply QoS separately to prioritize key frames.

If you wish, I can reach out to our IPTV team to get more information on our 
Haivision (formerly Video Furnace) system.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Baugh, Craig [mailto:c.ba...@tcu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:18 AM
Subject: IPTV deployment

Good morning,
I am looking for any advice from colleges that have implemented IPTV services.
Would like to know of any challenges, limitations, or problems that have come 
up during implementation.


Thank you for your help.

//Craig Baugh
//Network Engineer
//Texas Christian University.

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RE: IPTV deployment

2017-04-27 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) 
Craig,

Are you looking at this from a wireless perspective, worried, or both?

What is your wireless platform?

We implemented multicast IPTV on Aruba wireless using our existing Haivision 
wired IPTV services. In fact, we helped Aruba test their "Dynamic Multicast 
Optimization" solution.

Generally, for 802.11 networks, multicast is transmitted at the lowest 
transmitted rate. That is bad for multicast video. Since our video streams are 
encrypted, we cannot apply QoS separately to prioritize key frames.

If you wish, I can reach out to our IPTV team to get more information on our 
Haivision (formerly Video Furnace) system.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Baugh, Craig [mailto:c.ba...@tcu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:18 AM
Subject: IPTV deployment

Good morning,
I am looking for any advice from colleges that have implemented IPTV services.
Would like to know of any challenges, limitations, or problems that have come 
up during implementation.


Thank you for your help.

//Craig Baugh
//Network Engineer
//Texas Christian University.

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