[Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? Thanks Jörg -- Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. -- Graham Bloice ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 06:20:48PM +0100, Graham Bloice wrote: On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Thanks Jörg -- Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 06:20:48PM +0100, Graham Bloice wrote: On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Thanks Jörg Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. Pascal. ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 07:51:37PM +0200, Pascal Quantin wrote: Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : [...] Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. I wouldn't mind that either - in that case I would not need to update my Windows build box right now :-) Btw, I've already found out that without updated setup instructions for the wsdg it would probably take me way too much time to do the upgrade from 2010 to 2013. Ciao Jörg -- Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On 24 July 2014 18:51, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 06:20:48PM +0100, Graham Bloice wrote: On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Thanks Jörg Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. That was what I was meaning, we would leave support for VS2010, and fix up whatever is needed for 2012 2013. 2013 builds well for me. The toolchain in 2013 is a big improvement over 2010. I think we can make nmake autodetect the version and possibly CMake too, although that likes to make it's own mind up so needs a command line switch if you have multiple versions. -- Graham Bloice ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On 24 July 2014 18:59, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 07:51:37PM +0200, Pascal Quantin wrote: Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : [...] Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. I wouldn't mind that either - in that case I would not need to update my Windows build box right now :-) Btw, I've already found out that without updated setup instructions for the wsdg it would probably take me way too much time to do the upgrade from 2010 to 2013. Yep I misread Pascal's email. VS2010 will still be supported. I'll try to post some new instructions here tonight. Pretty trivial really. -- Graham Bloice ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
Le 24 juil. 2014 20:00, Graham Bloice graham.blo...@trihedral.com a écrit : On 24 July 2014 18:51, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 06:20:48PM +0100, Graham Bloice wrote: On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Thanks Jörg Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. That was what I was meaning, we would leave support for VS2010, and fix up whatever is needed for 2012 2013. 2013 builds well for me. The toolchain in 2013 is a big improvement over 2010. I think we can make nmake autodetect the version and possibly CMake too, although that likes to make it's own mind up so needs a command line switch if you have multiple versions. Which make me think that I must upload the MSVC2013 Lua package :) ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On 24 July 2014 19:03, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24 juil. 2014 20:00, Graham Bloice graham.blo...@trihedral.com a écrit : On 24 July 2014 18:51, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 06:20:48PM +0100, Graham Bloice wrote: On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Thanks Jörg Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. That was what I was meaning, we would leave support for VS2010, and fix up whatever is needed for 2012 2013. 2013 builds well for me. The toolchain in 2013 is a big improvement over 2010. I think we can make nmake autodetect the version and possibly CMake too, although that likes to make it's own mind up so needs a command line switch if you have multiple versions. Which make me think that I must upload the MSVC2013 Lua package :) The current one builds and runs fine with VS2013, but I don't think I've tried any Lua scripts with it. -- Graham Bloice ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On 24 July 2014 19:06, Graham Bloice graham.blo...@trihedral.com wrote: On 24 July 2014 19:03, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24 juil. 2014 20:00, Graham Bloice graham.blo...@trihedral.com a écrit : On 24 July 2014 18:51, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 06:20:48PM +0100, Graham Bloice wrote: On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Thanks Jörg Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. That was what I was meaning, we would leave support for VS2010, and fix up whatever is needed for 2012 2013. 2013 builds well for me. The toolchain in 2013 is a big improvement over 2010. I think we can make nmake autodetect the version and possibly CMake too, although that likes to make it's own mind up so needs a command line switch if you have multiple versions. Which make me think that I must upload the MSVC2013 Lua package :) The current one builds and runs fine with VS2013, but I don't think I've tried any Lua scripts with it. I have two batch files, one for VS2010 and the other for VS2013. Both are set by default for x86 builds, but it shouldn't be too hard to make them bit-width agnostic. For VS2010: REM Environment setup for Wireshark and VS2010 set CYGWIN=nodosfilewarning set WIRESHARK_BASE_DIR=E:\Wireshark set WIRESHARK_TARGET_PLATFORM=win32 set QT5_BASE_DIR=C:\qt\Qt-5.1.1-MSVC2010-win32-ws set VisualStudioVersion=10.0 set WIRESHARK_VERSION_EXTRA=-GMB and for VS2013: REM Environment setup for Wireshark and VS2013 set CYGWIN=nodosfilewarning set WIRESHARK_BASE_DIR=E:\Wireshark set WIRESHARK_TARGET_PLATFORM=win32 set QT5_BASE_DIR=C:\Qt\Qt5.3.0\5.3\msvc2013 set WIRESHARK_VERSION_EXTRA=-GMB I run these from a Visual Studio Command Prompt, look in the Start Menu for the appropriate Visual Studio Tools entry, and in there should be some shortcuts. Using the batch files, no changes are required to the sources for a plain vanilla build. -- Graham Bloice ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Oldest version of VS supported?
On 24 July 2014 20:02, Graham Bloice graham.blo...@trihedral.com wrote: On 24 July 2014 19:06, Graham Bloice graham.blo...@trihedral.com wrote: On 24 July 2014 19:03, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24 juil. 2014 20:00, Graham Bloice graham.blo...@trihedral.com a écrit : On 24 July 2014 18:51, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24/07/2014 19:39, Joerg Mayer a écrit : On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 06:20:48PM +0100, Graham Bloice wrote: On 24 July 2014 18:08, Joerg Mayer jma...@loplof.de wrote: IIRC there was some discussion which versions of VS should still be supported, but I failed to find it in the archives. So, was there some consensus which is the oldest version we are going to support with master? I brought up the issue of moving to VS2013 for master, and separately dropping info from the (master) docs for earlier than VS2010. I didn't see any requests for support to build with earlier than 2010, although Guy did wonder about the doc changes, but no real conclusion was reached. Personally I would make 2013 the minimum supported for master. Hmm, OK. So we need an updated developer's guide setup section. I will try to update my Windows vom 2010 to 2013 and see how it goes - just have to find out how to snapshot the VM first ;- Could you update Makefile.nmake and config.nmake to rip out all the stuff that deals with older versions? That would make my life with the CMake work on Windows somewhat easier ;-) Thanks Jörg Could not we keep at least VS2010 but change the default to VS2013 (if everybody agree)? I find it a quite drastic change to drop all older compilers suddenly... This is not something we have done in the past. That was what I was meaning, we would leave support for VS2010, and fix up whatever is needed for 2012 2013. 2013 builds well for me. The toolchain in 2013 is a big improvement over 2010. I think we can make nmake autodetect the version and possibly CMake too, although that likes to make it's own mind up so needs a command line switch if you have multiple versions. Which make me think that I must upload the MSVC2013 Lua package :) The current one builds and runs fine with VS2013, but I don't think I've tried any Lua scripts with it. I have two batch files, one for VS2010 and the other for VS2013. Both are set by default for x86 builds, but it shouldn't be too hard to make them bit-width agnostic. For VS2010: REM Environment setup for Wireshark and VS2010 set CYGWIN=nodosfilewarning set WIRESHARK_BASE_DIR=E:\Wireshark set WIRESHARK_TARGET_PLATFORM=win32 set QT5_BASE_DIR=C:\qt\Qt-5.1.1-MSVC2010-win32-ws set VisualStudioVersion=10.0 set WIRESHARK_VERSION_EXTRA=-GMB and for VS2013: REM Environment setup for Wireshark and VS2013 set CYGWIN=nodosfilewarning set WIRESHARK_BASE_DIR=E:\Wireshark set WIRESHARK_TARGET_PLATFORM=win32 set QT5_BASE_DIR=C:\Qt\Qt5.3.0\5.3\msvc2013 set WIRESHARK_VERSION_EXTRA=-GMB I run these from a Visual Studio Command Prompt, look in the Start Menu for the appropriate Visual Studio Tools entry, and in there should be some shortcuts. Using the batch files, no changes are required to the sources for a plain vanilla build. I forgot to add, for VS2013 you need a newer version of QT, I used 5.3.0. -- Graham Bloice ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list wireshark-dev@wireshark.org Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
