[Wireshark-users] Strange packet nbns

2007-02-18 Thread Jon Knight
Hi all

 

Hope you can help.  I tried Wireshark on my network and once a winxp client
logs into my network (Win 2003 server as DC) I see NBNS name query nb
bps-ntserver1

The bps-ntserver1 was an old NT 4 server but I have since built a new
domain.  I have a feeling a reg key or something is still in the desktop
since the change over.  I have looked through the registry but it is strange
why its being called on login only?  Any ideas? I am guessing it is not
healthy for 100+ pc's querying an old server on login! I have attached the
log.  

 

I am still (unfortunately) running wins on the network due to a few win 98
boxes still running.  I have tried searching wins for that server name but
nothing exists and DNS does not have any reference to that old server name.
Thanks.

 

Cheers

Jon



nbns.pcap
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[Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

2007-02-18 Thread William Murphy
Hi All,

   Don't know if this is the correct board to put this too but hear goes
anyway.

 

I am having problems listening for packets on my Sun Machine.

 

I have a F5 BIGIP switch on which I mirrored the traffic port(i.e.9) to
another port 16 for listening and tracing. In port 16 bi run a cable to
my Sun Solaris V440 machine. On this machine I simply plumb the
interface to where the cable is, give it a dummy ip address,netmask and
broadcast address and bring it up. Issue is when I run Tshark I see no
packets. 

 

Any ideas on what I have done wrong or even some tricks. When I connect
my laptop instead of Sun server and run wireshark , then I can see
packets that I want. I don't even give the laptop interface card a ip
address, netmask and broadcast address and it still works.

 

 

William

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

2007-02-18 Thread Luis Ontanon
What about tcpdump, does it capture?
What happen if you run it as root, can you capture?
is /dev/ifname readable by the user you are trying to capture with?

On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

Don't know if this is the correct board to put this too but hear goes 
 anyway.
 I am having problems listening for packets on my Sun Machine.

 I have a F5 BIGIP switch on which I mirrored the traffic port(i.e.9) to 
 another port 16 for listening and tracing. In port 16 bi run a cable to my 
 Sun Solaris V440 machine. On this machine I simply plumb the interface to 
 where the cable is, give it a dummy ip address,netmask and broadcast address 
 and bring it up. Issue is when I run Tshark I see no packets.

 Any ideas on what I have done wrong or even some tricks. When I connect my 
 laptop instead of Sun server and run wireshark , then I can see packets that 
 I want. I don't even give the laptop interface card a ip address, netmask and 
 broadcast address and it still works.

 William


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Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

2007-02-18 Thread William Murphy
Hi ,
   Thanks for getting back to metcpdump does not capture eitheri
have been reading up on this and here it is. 
The laptop I use is not as secure as Sun server and the nic card can be
turned into promiscuous mode easily by software,
But on the Sun server I don't think the software can turn it into
promiscuous mode and thus the Nic card will not show the sniffer(i.e.
snoop,tcpdump,tethereal,tshark) traffic from Mac address other than its
own mac address for security reasons.

So I think now my question is:

Is there a command I can run which will put the nic card on the SUN
server(i.e. Solaris 10) into promiscuous mode?

Agree with my thinking?

Will

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis Ontanon
Sent: 18 February 2007 20:26
To: Community support list for Wireshark
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

What about tcpdump, does it capture?
What happen if you run it as root, can you capture?
is /dev/ifname readable by the user you are trying to capture with?

On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

Don't know if this is the correct board to put this too but hear
goes anyway.
 I am having problems listening for packets on my Sun Machine.

 I have a F5 BIGIP switch on which I mirrored the traffic port(i.e.9)
to another port 16 for listening and tracing. In port 16 bi run a cable
to my Sun Solaris V440 machine. On this machine I simply plumb the
interface to where the cable is, give it a dummy ip address,netmask and
broadcast address and bring it up. Issue is when I run Tshark I see no
packets.

 Any ideas on what I have done wrong or even some tricks. When I
connect my laptop instead of Sun server and run wireshark , then I can
see packets that I want. I don't even give the laptop interface card a
ip address, netmask and broadcast address and it still works.

 William


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Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

2007-02-18 Thread William Murphy
Hi I cant seem to snoop as root. Makes no difference.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -la /dev/ce
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  28 May 14  2006 /dev/ce -
../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:ce
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -la ../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:ce
crw---   1 root sys   11, 80 May 14  2006
../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:ce

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis Ontanon
Sent: 18 February 2007 20:55
To: Community support list for Wireshark
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

I used to capture promiscous on sun boxen without any problem.

So it might be an issue with permissions of the /dev/ node for the
interface which I remember I had to change myself.
.
Can you capture as root?
If so which are the permissions on /dev/ifname?
What happens if you change permissions on /dev/ifname so that it is
writable by the user, can you capture promiscuous then?

Luis

On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi ,
Thanks for getting back to metcpdump does not capture
eitheri
 have been reading up on this and here it is.
 The laptop I use is not as secure as Sun server and the nic card can
be
 turned into promiscuous mode easily by software,
 But on the Sun server I don't think the software can turn it into
 promiscuous mode and thus the Nic card will not show the sniffer(i.e.
 snoop,tcpdump,tethereal,tshark) traffic from Mac address other than
its
 own mac address for security reasons.

 So I think now my question is:

 Is there a command I can run which will put the nic card on the SUN
 server(i.e. Solaris 10) into promiscuous mode?

 Agree with my thinking?

 Will

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis
Ontanon
 Sent: 18 February 2007 20:26
 To: Community support list for Wireshark
 Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

 What about tcpdump, does it capture?
 What happen if you run it as root, can you capture?
 is /dev/ifname readable by the user you are trying to capture with?

 On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,
 
 Don't know if this is the correct board to put this too but hear
 goes anyway.
  I am having problems listening for packets on my Sun Machine.
 
  I have a F5 BIGIP switch on which I mirrored the traffic port(i.e.9)
 to another port 16 for listening and tracing. In port 16 bi run a
cable
 to my Sun Solaris V440 machine. On this machine I simply plumb the
 interface to where the cable is, give it a dummy ip address,netmask
and
 broadcast address and bring it up. Issue is when I run Tshark I see no
 packets.
 
  Any ideas on what I have done wrong or even some tricks. When I
 connect my laptop instead of Sun server and run wireshark , then I can
 see packets that I want. I don't even give the laptop interface card a
 ip address, netmask and broadcast address and it still works.
 
  William


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Re: [Wireshark-users] Strange packet nbns

2007-02-18 Thread Hans Nilsson
Have you tried doing a search in the registry for ntserver1 or
similar?

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:25:40 +1100, Jon Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 Hi all
 
  
 
 Hope you can help.  I tried Wireshark on my network and once a winxp
 client
 logs into my network (Win 2003 server as DC) I see NBNS name query nb
 bps-ntserver1
 
 The bps-ntserver1 was an old NT 4 server but I have since built a new
 domain.  I have a feeling a reg key or something is still in the desktop
 since the change over.  I have looked through the registry but it is
 strange
 why its being called on login only?  Any ideas? I am guessing it is not
 healthy for 100+ pc's querying an old server on login! I have attached
 the
 log.  
 
  
 
 I am still (unfortunately) running wins on the network due to a few win
 98
 boxes still running.  I have tried searching wins for that server name
 but
 nothing exists and DNS does not have any reference to that old server
 name.
 Thanks.
 
  
 
 Cheers
 
 Jon
 
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Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

2007-02-18 Thread Luis Ontanon
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-3947/6mjgnrl80?a=view says that
ce does actually support promiscuous mode.

You might have to change something in /kernel/drv/ce.conf but honestly
I do not knopw what.


Luis



On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Supposedlyi have tried with tethereal also and it has same effect.No
 traffic captured

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis Ontanon
 Sent: 18 February 2007 21:12
 To: Community support list for Wireshark
 Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface

 does snoop work in promiscuous mode?

 On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 Ok changed the rights on the file
 
  crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   11, 80 May 14  2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ce
 
  but this still does not make a difference. I did not restart the
 system.
  Just changed rights and made trace which did not work.
 
  Will
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis
 Ontanon
  Sent: 18 February 2007 20:55
  To: Community support list for Wireshark
  Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface
 
  I used to capture promiscous on sun boxen without any problem.
 
  So it might be an issue with permissions of the /dev/ node for the
  interface which I remember I had to change myself.
  .
  Can you capture as root?
  If so which are the permissions on /dev/ifname?
  What happens if you change permissions on /dev/ifname so that it is
  writable by the user, can you capture promiscuous then?
 
  Luis
 
  On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi ,
  Thanks for getting back to metcpdump does not capture
  eitheri
   have been reading up on this and here it is.
   The laptop I use is not as secure as Sun server and the nic card can
  be
   turned into promiscuous mode easily by software,
   But on the Sun server I don't think the software can turn it into
   promiscuous mode and thus the Nic card will not show the
 sniffer(i.e.
   snoop,tcpdump,tethereal,tshark) traffic from Mac address other than
  its
   own mac address for security reasons.
  
   So I think now my question is:
  
   Is there a command I can run which will put the nic card on the SUN
   server(i.e. Solaris 10) into promiscuous mode?
  
   Agree with my thinking?
  
   Will
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis
  Ontanon
   Sent: 18 February 2007 20:26
   To: Community support list for Wireshark
   Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Listening on Port mirrored interface
  
   What about tcpdump, does it capture?
   What happen if you run it as root, can you capture?
   is /dev/ifname readable by the user you are trying to capture with?
  
   On 2/18/07, William Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Hi All,
   
   Don't know if this is the correct board to put this too but
 hear
   goes anyway.
I am having problems listening for packets on my Sun Machine.
   
I have a F5 BIGIP switch on which I mirrored the traffic
 port(i.e.9)
   to another port 16 for listening and tracing. In port 16 bi run a
  cable
   to my Sun Solaris V440 machine. On this machine I simply plumb the
   interface to where the cable is, give it a dummy ip address,netmask
  and
   broadcast address and bring it up. Issue is when I run Tshark I see
 no
   packets.
   
Any ideas on what I have done wrong or even some tricks. When I
   connect my laptop instead of Sun server and run wireshark , then I
 can
   see packets that I want. I don't even give the laptop interface card
 a
   ip address, netmask and broadcast address and it still works.
   
William
  
  
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Re: [Wireshark-users] Strange packet nbns

2007-02-18 Thread Bill Meier
 
 On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:25:40 +1100, Jon Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
  Hi all
  
   
  
  Hope you can help.  I tried Wireshark on my network and once a winxp
  client
  logs into my network (Win 2003 server as DC) I see NBNS name query nb
  bps-ntserver1
  

The following thread may (or may not) be of help:

Subject: How to find the application sending a namerequest?

  start: http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-users/200610/msg00867.html

  last:  http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-users/200611/msg01217.html

Bill Meier




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