Witango-Talk: Witango Server running in *nix environment
What's the best way to run (and keep running) a *nix Witango server. Should the server be started with a super-server like xinetd? would that add some stability to the system to keep it running if it crashes? currently i'm using a C program that I compiled called procautomon to restart the server when it crashes. (which can be quite often) but for some reason that process failed today and i was wondering if there was a more appropriate way to do it. /John TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Alan
That's a thought. You should mess with both the caching (turn it off if you can) and the logging. Its possible something is causing the crash in these events. -Original Message- From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan Ok, so after the defrag it suddenly stopped crashing? - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > Actualy yes, the defrag seemed to help alot. this was right after we > defragged and i dont think we had rebooted or given much time to see if it > improved any. > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:52 PM > Subject: Witango-Talk: Alan > > >> Alan, >> >> you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really unstable > server. >> >> My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue > somehow? >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: >> > >> >>over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has >> >>become >> >>really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times >> >>per day >> >>because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less >> >>responsive than it used to be. >> >> >> >>the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped a >> >>little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and >> >>still >> >>unstable. >> >> >> >>in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, theres a >> >>message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last >> >>entry in >> >>the log file: >> >>[Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >>not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. >> >> >> >>also in the witango events log we have messages like this peppered >> >>here and >> >>there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: >> >> >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application >> >>file, >> >>action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: >> >>0118; >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Stack: 00e5f4a0 0047de18 00e5f6e4 >> >>0041b788 00e5f500 00e5f540 00e5f554 00e5f53c 00e5f700 00e5f530 00a0d2f0 >> >>00a6e830 00e5f534 0004 77f89570 7726 0036 >> >>00a6bf78 0002 0020 f544 00e5f2f4 7770 00a6e5e8 >> >>77f45a34 0010 ff00 0036 00e5f310 0036 00e5f588 77f45a34 >> >>77f89570 00e5f5f8 77f47c00 009e1318 77f46700 00360700 005749f4 >> >> 7700 00575040 00a6e8cc 00a6bf78 00a6bf78 >> >> 0010 77bb 0001 00a6bf79 0002 00e5f558 >> >> 00e5f5f0 77bc4d50 77ba20f8 77bbbe90 0020 >> >>0002 00e5f678 00408b42 00a6e2d8 00e5f5fc 00a6e838 >> >>00408881 00e5f678 00a6e2d8 0036 00e5f678 0004 00013ed5 00e5f544 >> >>00a6e2d8 00e5f630 77f45a34 77f89458 ff00 77f467f9 77bbb9be 0036 >> >> 0004 00e5f6d8 000e 004538a1 00a6e2d0 00a6bf78 >> >>00e5f724 0020 f64c 0036 00e5f430 77ba20c0 00e5f6a8 77f45a34 >> >>77f89570 77f473f3 7726 0036 0011 >> >>00e5f6b8 00a6e8cc 7770 77bbbe90 00a6e8cc 0011 00a6e8cc >> >> 00e5f600 00a6c538 005749f4 >> >> >> >>We havent changed any witango code or software on the machine, this is >> >>coming just out of the blue it seems. >> >> >> >>anyone have any idea what might cause this? >> >> >> >>We are on windows 2003 server using witango 5.0.1.065, oterro (r:base) >> >>2.6.00.03 and IIS. >> >> >> >>Thank you for any help! >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:51 PM >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters >> >> >> > And if you want to be "fully xml compliant" (witango is getting >> > stricter >> > on >> > that sometime in the future isnt it? I recall something about that at > the >> > last conference), you will want to quote just about EVERYTHING so >> > better >> > safe now then sorry later on i think (: >> > >> > for the xml compliance it's only for attributes of tags though if i >> > understand correctly, so instead of this which works now: >> > <@RANDOM HIGH=100 LOW=1> >> > >> > you'd want this: >> > <@RANDOM HIGH="100" LOW="1"> >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:41 AM >> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk:
RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
How many user scopes are typically active? Can you try shifting objects (TCF/COM) to a non-user scope? Can create your own logging, where you store the start and stop timestamp (and maybe some other info) of each request? This way you’ll see what TAFs (if any) where running when the crash occurred. You could also use variabletimeouttrigger to log when usr expires are occurring to see if they actually line up with crashes. Just some ideas. -Original Message- From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thanks for all input, I had the exact same problem on the old server, so it might not be a hardware problem. Although we scavenged the old server for more RAM last week. Server is stable under low and moderate usage. No crashes at night! But, as soon as usage goes up (morning and afternoon) Where do you find log entries that indicate cache flushes? If i compare the tango log with the event log I almost always find a line like this at the corresponding timestamp: 02/12/2004 16:51:27 . [Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are the user timouts crashing my server? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand So, it sounds like you have some memory issues. I'd say a memory upgrade, or swap may do the trick. If the Witango logs indicates a lot of cache flushes, try increasing the cache to something ridiculous, like 100MB. Any possibility of moving it to a Xeon based server? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 12:13:46 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand The total size of all tafs and tcfs is about 5 megs. The server is a P4-2.8 with hyperthreading / 2Gb RAM / tons of disc rack mounted server. - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand I don't think so. What kind of hardware are you running this on? What's the total size of all taf, tcf, and include files? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:33 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Michael, im running witango 5.5 with SQL server 2000 Sp3 on a Windows 2003 standard edition. It crashes, say at least 4 times a day. Im using standard TAFs and TCF's. The Classfiles are in a shared scope, to lower overhead. Is it possible to set up load balancing and multiple servers on a standard edition server? Thanks for all help Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Witango-Talk: trapping a failed update
Bill, The problem with what you are suggesting is that it update is perfectly legitimate. The way the witango server determines whether to fall into the Results or No Results is based on whether the database returns a resultset or not. With an update statement the database always returns a resultset or an error there is no such thing as a no result. The easiest way to test whether the action has done anything is to use the <@NUMAFFECTED> tag. @NUMAFFECTED returns the number of database rows affected by the last Insert, Update, Delete, or Direct DBMS action executed. All other actions have no effect on what the tag returns. Witango Support On 03/12/2004, at 11:25 AM, Bill Conlon wrote: I recently introduced a bug into an app, and was kind of surpised: Failed Update Action. Essentially, I had changed the name of the key argument in the HTML form, so my update action ended up as: UPDATE vcs.media SET mime_type_id=3,size=50945,filename=?,data=? WHERE (id IS NULL) So the update did NOT occur, because no id matched NULL, but did NOT throw an error. So I suppose, my resultsHTML should include: <@IFEQUAL VALUE1="0" VALUE2="@@request$resultset[1,1]"><@THROWERROR DESCRIPTION="No Update occurred"> But wouldn't it be nice if there was a No Results tab in the Update action? I'll make a feature request. ___ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Amnesiac branch action
MacOS X dev studio 5.5 A branch action has "Path to target taf on server" I select "Other" and enter the path. Close the action Open the action, and the path is empty. Any way to goose the dev studio into saving the path? TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Alan
Doesnt it really bug you guys not knowing what is going on with the server? Im doing the ol' restarting trick on my server now too, using the built-in restarting tool in windows 2003. Works 90% of the times. Problem is, that logged in users notice the restart (which takes 2 minutes) and get really frustrated. It all started with witango 5. Our other server, that is running tango4 is solid as a rock. Last reboot was in 2003. That should be the way our "new and improved" servers work! Seems like an awful lot of people are dealing with this bug. I hope we can find a solution to this, fast. Im working full time on this since a month ago - trying everything from installing more RAM to decreasing worker threads and increasing cache to 100 megs. Last thing I did today was to install and start .Net1.1 on the server. Would be interesting to learn more about the configuration of the server that witango tested 5.x on prior to release. Copying that exact configuration should give us a stable environment. Again, thanks for all input! Peter - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan we had complaints too til we had something that would restart it when it went down, then they didnt notice it as much. do you have something for that? (: our crashes right now dont seem to be load related, we have had plenty of times where its higher end load for us where the servers fine and also it's fine during alot of idle time, it seems to just crash randomly so not sure whats going on w/ it or why it crashes - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan Ok, so you still got crashing. Mine crashes 1-6 times a day. Today we broke a record: 6 crashes! The crashes seem to be related to load. Funny we got the exact same error and symptoms. Im very eager to solve this issue. I have clients complaining about the server crashing all the time. Peter - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > Yeah, it still crashes on average probly once a day (2-3 days in a row w/o > crashes then a couple of days with a crash or 2 a day, sometimes up to > 5 > crashes in 1 day but thats pretty rare) but the defrag seemed to help a > whole lot. > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > > >> Ok, so after the defrag it suddenly stopped crashing? >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:01 AM >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan >> >> >> > Actualy yes, the defrag seemed to help alot. this was right after >> > we >> > defragged and i dont think we had rebooted or given much time to see if > it >> > improved any. >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:52 PM >> > Subject: Witango-Talk: Alan >> > >> > >> >> Alan, >> >> >> >> you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really >> >> unstable >> > server. >> >> >> >> My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue >> > somehow? >> >> >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: >> >> > >> >> >>over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has >> >> >>become >> >> >>really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times >> >> >>per day >> >> >>because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less >> >> >>responsive than it used to be. >> >> >> >> >> >>the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped > a >> >> >>little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and >> >> >>still >> >> >>unstable. >> >> >> >> >> >>in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, >> >> >>theres > a >> >> >>message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last >> >> >>entry in >> >> >>the log file: >> >> >>[Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >>not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. >> >> >> >> >> >>also in the witango events log we have messages like this >> >> >>peppered >> >> >>here and >> >> >>there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: >> >> >> >> >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application >> >> >>file, >> >> >>action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception >> >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at >> >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: >> >> >>0118; >> >> >>[ 33
Witango-Talk: trapping a failed update
I recently introduced a bug into an app, and was kind of surpised: Failed Update Action. Essentially, I had changed the name of the key argument in the HTML form, so my update action ended up as: UPDATE vcs.media SET mime_type_id=3,size=50945,filename=?,data=? WHERE (id IS NULL) So the update did NOT occur, because no id matched NULL, but did NOT throw an error. So I suppose, my resultsHTML should include: <@IFEQUAL VALUE1="0" VALUE2="@@request$resultset[1,1]"><@THROWERROR DESCRIPTION="No Update occurred"> But wouldn't it be nice if there was a No Results tab in the Update action? I'll make a feature request. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Alan
we had complaints too til we had something that would restart it when it went down, then they didnt notice it as much. do you have something for that? (: our crashes right now dont seem to be load related, we have had plenty of times where its higher end load for us where the servers fine and also it's fine during alot of idle time, it seems to just crash randomly so not sure whats going on w/ it or why it crashes - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > Ok, so you still got crashing. Mine crashes 1-6 times a day. Today we broke > a record: 6 crashes! The crashes seem to be related to load. > > Funny we got the exact same error and symptoms. Im very eager to solve this > issue. I have clients complaining about the server crashing all the time. > > Peter > > - Original Message - > From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:15 AM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > > > > Yeah, it still crashes on average probly once a day (2-3 days in a row w/o > > crashes then a couple of days with a crash or 2 a day, sometimes up to 5 > > crashes in 1 day but thats pretty rare) but the defrag seemed to help a > > whole lot. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:07 PM > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > > > > > >> Ok, so after the defrag it suddenly stopped crashing? > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:01 AM > >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > >> > >> > >> > Actualy yes, the defrag seemed to help alot. this was right after we > >> > defragged and i dont think we had rebooted or given much time to see if > > it > >> > improved any. > >> > > >> > - Original Message - > >> > From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:52 PM > >> > Subject: Witango-Talk: Alan > >> > > >> > > >> >> Alan, > >> >> > >> >> you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really unstable > >> > server. > >> >> > >> >> My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue > >> > somehow? > >> >> > >> >> Peter > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >>over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has > >> >> >>become > >> >> >>really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times > >> >> >>per day > >> >> >>because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less > >> >> >>responsive than it used to be. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped > > a > >> >> >>little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and > >> >> >>still > >> >> >>unstable. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, > >> >> >>theres > > a > >> >> >>message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last > >> >> >>entry in > >> >> >>the log file: > >> >> >>[Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> > >> >> >>not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>also in the witango events log we have messages like this peppered > >> >> >>here and > >> >> >>there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application > >> >> >>file, > >> >> >>action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception > >> >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at > >> >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: > >> >> >>0118; > >> >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at > >> >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Stack: 00e5f4a0 0047de18 00e5f6e4 > >> >> >>0041b788 00e5f500 00e5f540 00e5f554 00e5f53c 00e5f700 00e5f530 > > 00a0d2f0 > >> >> >>00a6e830 00e5f534 0004 77f89570 7726 > > 0036 > >> >> >>00a6bf78 0002 0020 f544 00e5f2f4 7770 > > 00a6e5e8 > >> >> >>77f45a34 0010 ff00 0036 00e5f310 0036 00e5f588 > > 77f45a34 > >> >> >>77f89570 00e5f5f8 77f47c00 009e1318 77f46700 00360700 > > 005749f4 > >> >> >> 7700 00575040 00a6e8cc 00a6bf78 > > 00a6bf78 > >> >> >> 0010 77bb 0001 00a6bf79 0002 > > 00e5f558 > >> >> >> 00e5f5f0 77bc4d50 77ba20f8 77bbbe90 0020 > > > >> >> >>0002 00e5f678 00408b42 00a6e2d8 00e5f5fc > > 00a6e838 > >> >> >>00408881 00e5f678 00a6e2d8 0036 00e5f678 0004 00013ed5 > > 00e5f544 > >> >> >>00a6e2d8 00e5f630 77f45a34 77f89458 ff00 77f46
Re: Witango-Talk: Alan
Ok, so you still got crashing. Mine crashes 1-6 times a day. Today we broke a record: 6 crashes! The crashes seem to be related to load. Funny we got the exact same error and symptoms. Im very eager to solve this issue. I have clients complaining about the server crashing all the time. Peter - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan Yeah, it still crashes on average probly once a day (2-3 days in a row w/o crashes then a couple of days with a crash or 2 a day, sometimes up to 5 crashes in 1 day but thats pretty rare) but the defrag seemed to help a whole lot. - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan Ok, so after the defrag it suddenly stopped crashing? - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > Actualy yes, the defrag seemed to help alot. this was right after we > defragged and i dont think we had rebooted or given much time to see if it > improved any. > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:52 PM > Subject: Witango-Talk: Alan > > >> Alan, >> >> you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really unstable > server. >> >> My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue > somehow? >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: >> > >> >>over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has >> >>become >> >>really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times >> >>per day >> >>because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less >> >>responsive than it used to be. >> >> >> >>the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped a >> >>little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and >> >>still >> >>unstable. >> >> >> >>in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, >> >>theres a >> >>message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last >> >>entry in >> >>the log file: >> >>[Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >>not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. >> >> >> >>also in the witango events log we have messages like this peppered >> >>here and >> >>there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: >> >> >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application >> >>file, >> >>action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: >> >>0118; >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Stack: 00e5f4a0 0047de18 00e5f6e4 >> >>0041b788 00e5f500 00e5f540 00e5f554 00e5f53c 00e5f700 00e5f530 00a0d2f0 >> >>00a6e830 00e5f534 0004 77f89570 7726 0036 >> >>00a6bf78 0002 0020 f544 00e5f2f4 7770 00a6e5e8 >> >>77f45a34 0010 ff00 0036 00e5f310 0036 00e5f588 77f45a34 >> >>77f89570 00e5f5f8 77f47c00 009e1318 77f46700 00360700 005749f4 >> >> 7700 00575040 00a6e8cc 00a6bf78 00a6bf78 >> >> 0010 77bb 0001 00a6bf79 0002 00e5f558 >> >> 00e5f5f0 77bc4d50 77ba20f8 77bbbe90 0020 >> >>0002 00e5f678 00408b42 00a6e2d8 00e5f5fc 00a6e838 >> >>00408881 00e5f678 00a6e2d8 0036 00e5f678 0004 00013ed5 00e5f544 >> >>00a6e2d8 00e5f630 77f45a34 77f89458 ff00 77f467f9 77bbb9be 0036 >> >> 0004 00e5f6d8 000e 004538a1 00a6e2d0 00a6bf78 >> >>00e5f724 0020 f64c 0036 00e5f430 77ba20c0 00e5f6a8 77f45a34 >> >>77f89570 77f473f3 7726 0036 0011 >> >>00e5f6b8 00a6e8cc 7770 77bbbe90 00a6e8cc 0011 00a6e8cc >> >> 00e5f600 00a6c538 005749f4 >> >> >> >>We havent changed any witango code or software on the machine, this is >> >>coming just out of the blue it seems. >> >> >> >>anyone have any idea what might cause this? >> >> >> >>We are on windows 2003 server using witango 5.0.1.065, oterro (r:base) >> >>2.6.00.03 and IIS. >> >> >> >>Thank you for any help! >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:51 PM >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters >> >> >> > And if you want to be "fully xml compliant" (witango is getting >> > stricter >> > on >> > that sometime in the future isnt it? I recall something about that >> > at > the >> > last con
Re: Witango-Talk: Alan
Yeah, it still crashes on average probly once a day (2-3 days in a row w/o crashes then a couple of days with a crash or 2 a day, sometimes up to 5 crashes in 1 day but thats pretty rare) but the defrag seemed to help a whole lot. - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > Ok, so after the defrag it suddenly stopped crashing? > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:01 AM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan > > > > Actualy yes, the defrag seemed to help alot. this was right after we > > defragged and i dont think we had rebooted or given much time to see if it > > improved any. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:52 PM > > Subject: Witango-Talk: Alan > > > > > >> Alan, > >> > >> you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really unstable > > server. > >> > >> My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue > > somehow? > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > >> > >> >On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: > >> > > >> >>over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has > >> >>become > >> >>really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times > >> >>per day > >> >>because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less > >> >>responsive than it used to be. > >> >> > >> >>the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped a > >> >>little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and > >> >>still > >> >>unstable. > >> >> > >> >>in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, theres a > >> >>message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last > >> >>entry in > >> >>the log file: > >> >>[Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >>not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. > >> >> > >> >>also in the witango events log we have messages like this peppered > >> >>here and > >> >>there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: > >> >> > >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application > >> >>file, > >> >>action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception > >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at > >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: > >> >>0118; > >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at > >> >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Stack: 00e5f4a0 0047de18 00e5f6e4 > >> >>0041b788 00e5f500 00e5f540 00e5f554 00e5f53c 00e5f700 00e5f530 00a0d2f0 > >> >>00a6e830 00e5f534 0004 77f89570 7726 0036 > >> >>00a6bf78 0002 0020 f544 00e5f2f4 7770 00a6e5e8 > >> >>77f45a34 0010 ff00 0036 00e5f310 0036 00e5f588 77f45a34 > >> >>77f89570 00e5f5f8 77f47c00 009e1318 77f46700 00360700 005749f4 > >> >> 7700 00575040 00a6e8cc 00a6bf78 00a6bf78 > >> >> 0010 77bb 0001 00a6bf79 0002 00e5f558 > >> >> 00e5f5f0 77bc4d50 77ba20f8 77bbbe90 0020 > >> >>0002 00e5f678 00408b42 00a6e2d8 00e5f5fc 00a6e838 > >> >>00408881 00e5f678 00a6e2d8 0036 00e5f678 0004 00013ed5 00e5f544 > >> >>00a6e2d8 00e5f630 77f45a34 77f89458 ff00 77f467f9 77bbb9be 0036 > >> >> 0004 00e5f6d8 000e 004538a1 00a6e2d0 00a6bf78 > >> >>00e5f724 0020 f64c 0036 00e5f430 77ba20c0 00e5f6a8 77f45a34 > >> >>77f89570 77f473f3 7726 0036 0011 > >> >>00e5f6b8 00a6e8cc 7770 77bbbe90 00a6e8cc 0011 00a6e8cc > >> >> 00e5f600 00a6c538 005749f4 > >> >> > >> >>We havent changed any witango code or software on the machine, this is > >> >>coming just out of the blue it seems. > >> >> > >> >>anyone have any idea what might cause this? > >> >> > >> >>We are on windows 2003 server using witango 5.0.1.065, oterro (r:base) > >> >>2.6.00.03 and IIS. > >> >> > >> >>Thank you for any help! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:51 PM > >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters > >> > >> > >> > And if you want to be "fully xml compliant" (witango is getting > >> > stricter > >> > on > >> > that sometime in the future isnt it? I recall something about that at > > the > >> > last conference), you will want to quote just about EVERYTHING so > >> > better > >> > safe now then sorry later on i think (: > >> > > >> > for the xml compliance it's only for attributes of tags though if i > >> > understand correctly, so instead of this which
Re: Witango-Talk: Alan
Ok, so after the defrag it suddenly stopped crashing? - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Alan Actualy yes, the defrag seemed to help alot. this was right after we defragged and i dont think we had rebooted or given much time to see if it improved any. - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Witango-Talk: Alan Alan, you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really unstable server. My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue somehow? Peter >On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: > >>over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has >>become >>really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times >>per day >>because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less >>responsive than it used to be. >> >>the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped a >>little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and >>still >>unstable. >> >>in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, theres a >>message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last >>entry in >>the log file: >>[Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. >> >>also in the witango events log we have messages like this peppered >>here and >>there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: >> >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application >>file, >>action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: >>0118; >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Stack: 00e5f4a0 0047de18 00e5f6e4 >>0041b788 00e5f500 00e5f540 00e5f554 00e5f53c 00e5f700 00e5f530 00a0d2f0 >>00a6e830 00e5f534 0004 77f89570 7726 0036 >>00a6bf78 0002 0020 f544 00e5f2f4 7770 00a6e5e8 >>77f45a34 0010 ff00 0036 00e5f310 0036 00e5f588 77f45a34 >>77f89570 00e5f5f8 77f47c00 009e1318 77f46700 00360700 005749f4 >> 7700 00575040 00a6e8cc 00a6bf78 00a6bf78 >> 0010 77bb 0001 00a6bf79 0002 00e5f558 >> 00e5f5f0 77bc4d50 77ba20f8 77bbbe90 0020 >>0002 00e5f678 00408b42 00a6e2d8 00e5f5fc 00a6e838 >>00408881 00e5f678 00a6e2d8 0036 00e5f678 0004 00013ed5 00e5f544 >>00a6e2d8 00e5f630 77f45a34 77f89458 ff00 77f467f9 77bbb9be 0036 >> 0004 00e5f6d8 000e 004538a1 00a6e2d0 00a6bf78 >>00e5f724 0020 f64c 0036 00e5f430 77ba20c0 00e5f6a8 77f45a34 >>77f89570 77f473f3 7726 0036 0011 >>00e5f6b8 00a6e8cc 7770 77bbbe90 00a6e8cc 0011 00a6e8cc >> 00e5f600 00a6c538 005749f4 >> >>We havent changed any witango code or software on the machine, this is >>coming just out of the blue it seems. >> >>anyone have any idea what might cause this? >> >>We are on windows 2003 server using witango 5.0.1.065, oterro (r:base) >>2.6.00.03 and IIS. >> >>Thank you for any help! - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters > And if you want to be "fully xml compliant" (witango is getting > stricter > on > that sometime in the future isnt it? I recall something about that at the > last conference), you will want to quote just about EVERYTHING so > better > safe now then sorry later on i think (: > > for the xml compliance it's only for attributes of tags though if i > understand correctly, so instead of this which works now: > <@RANDOM HIGH=100 LOW=1> > > you'd want this: > <@RANDOM HIGH="100" LOW="1"> > > - Original Message - > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:41 AM > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters > > > Here is a couple of quick rules that I use in Witango > > If it is contains a space "Quote It" > If it is a String/Text "Quote it even if it doesn't have a space" > If it is a number "Quoting Optional" if the number is in a Witango > Variable > "Quote It" > > You can pretty much quote all because Witango doesn't use explicitly typed > vars they pretty much are all strings > > <@CALC EXP="1 + 1"> = <@CALC EXP="'1' + '1'"> > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > Available for Witango Developement > > > -Original Message- > From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROT
Re: Witango-Talk: Alan
Actualy yes, the defrag seemed to help alot. this was right after we defragged and i dont think we had rebooted or given much time to see if it improved any. - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Witango-Talk: Alan > Alan, > > you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really unstable server. > > My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue somehow? > > Peter > > > > >On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: > > > >>over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has > >>become > >>really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times > >>per day > >>because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less > >>responsive than it used to be. > >> > >>the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped a > >>little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and > >>still > >>unstable. > >> > >>in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, theres a > >>message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last > >>entry in > >>the log file: > >>[Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. > >> > >>also in the witango events log we have messages like this peppered > >>here and > >>there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: > >> > >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application > >>file, > >>action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception > >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at > >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: > >>0118; > >>[ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at > >>0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Stack: 00e5f4a0 0047de18 00e5f6e4 > >>0041b788 00e5f500 00e5f540 00e5f554 00e5f53c 00e5f700 00e5f530 00a0d2f0 > >>00a6e830 00e5f534 0004 77f89570 7726 0036 > >>00a6bf78 0002 0020 f544 00e5f2f4 7770 00a6e5e8 > >>77f45a34 0010 ff00 0036 00e5f310 0036 00e5f588 77f45a34 > >>77f89570 00e5f5f8 77f47c00 009e1318 77f46700 00360700 005749f4 > >> 7700 00575040 00a6e8cc 00a6bf78 00a6bf78 > >> 0010 77bb 0001 00a6bf79 0002 00e5f558 > >> 00e5f5f0 77bc4d50 77ba20f8 77bbbe90 0020 > >>0002 00e5f678 00408b42 00a6e2d8 00e5f5fc 00a6e838 > >>00408881 00e5f678 00a6e2d8 0036 00e5f678 0004 00013ed5 00e5f544 > >>00a6e2d8 00e5f630 77f45a34 77f89458 ff00 77f467f9 77bbb9be 0036 > >> 0004 00e5f6d8 000e 004538a1 00a6e2d0 00a6bf78 > >>00e5f724 0020 f64c 0036 00e5f430 77ba20c0 00e5f6a8 77f45a34 > >>77f89570 77f473f3 7726 0036 0011 > >>00e5f6b8 00a6e8cc 7770 77bbbe90 00a6e8cc 0011 00a6e8cc > >> 00e5f600 00a6c538 005749f4 > >> > >>We havent changed any witango code or software on the machine, this is > >>coming just out of the blue it seems. > >> > >>anyone have any idea what might cause this? > >> > >>We are on windows 2003 server using witango 5.0.1.065, oterro (r:base) > >>2.6.00.03 and IIS. > >> > >>Thank you for any help! > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters > > > > And if you want to be "fully xml compliant" (witango is getting stricter > > on > > that sometime in the future isnt it? I recall something about that at the > > last conference), you will want to quote just about EVERYTHING so better > > safe now then sorry later on i think (: > > > > for the xml compliance it's only for attributes of tags though if i > > understand correctly, so instead of this which works now: > > <@RANDOM HIGH=100 LOW=1> > > > > you'd want this: > > <@RANDOM HIGH="100" LOW="1"> > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:41 AM > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters > > > > > > Here is a couple of quick rules that I use in Witango > > > > If it is contains a space "Quote It" > > If it is a String/Text "Quote it even if it doesn't have a space" > > If it is a number "Quoting Optional" if the number is in a Witango > > Variable > > "Quote It" > > > > You can pretty much quote all because Witango doesn't use explicitly typed > > vars they pretty much are all strings > > > > <@CALC EXP="1 + 1"> = <@CALC EXP="'1' + '1'"> > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > > Available for Witango Developement > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Peter Ternström [mail
Witango-Talk: Alan
Alan, you seem to have the exact same problem as I have, a really unstable server. My symptoms are the exact same. Did you manage to solve this issue somehow? Peter On 04/06/2004, at 1:57 AM, Alan Wolfe wrote: over the past week and a half for some reason witango and/or IIS has become really unstable, and we've had to restart witango a handful of times per day because it stopped responding. It seems too that the server is less responsive than it used to be. the hard drive was fairly fragmented so we defragged and that helped a little with responsiveness but it's still not like it used to be and still unstable. in the witango log, about half the time we have these crashes, theres a message about an expired user right before the crash, as the last entry in the log file: [Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] not sure if thats triggering the crashes or coincidence. also in the witango events log we have messages like this peppered here and there but have had these all along so not sure if it's related: [ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL The "" application file, action "NULL", caused an unrecoverable OS exception [ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at 0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Code=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Read: 0118; [ 3352] 2004-06-03 08:19:26 RUNTIME FATAL System Exception at 0043e42a; Thread ID=3428; Stack: 00e5f4a0 0047de18 00e5f6e4 0041b788 00e5f500 00e5f540 00e5f554 00e5f53c 00e5f700 00e5f530 00a0d2f0 00a6e830 00e5f534 0004 77f89570 7726 0036 00a6bf78 0002 0020 f544 00e5f2f4 7770 00a6e5e8 77f45a34 0010 ff00 0036 00e5f310 0036 00e5f588 77f45a34 77f89570 00e5f5f8 77f47c00 009e1318 77f46700 00360700 005749f4 7700 00575040 00a6e8cc 00a6bf78 00a6bf78 0010 77bb 0001 00a6bf79 0002 00e5f558 00e5f5f0 77bc4d50 77ba20f8 77bbbe90 0020 0002 00e5f678 00408b42 00a6e2d8 00e5f5fc 00a6e838 00408881 00e5f678 00a6e2d8 0036 00e5f678 0004 00013ed5 00e5f544 00a6e2d8 00e5f630 77f45a34 77f89458 ff00 77f467f9 77bbb9be 0036 0004 00e5f6d8 000e 004538a1 00a6e2d0 00a6bf78 00e5f724 0020 f64c 0036 00e5f430 77ba20c0 00e5f6a8 77f45a34 77f89570 77f473f3 7726 0036 0011 00e5f6b8 00a6e8cc 7770 77bbbe90 00a6e8cc 0011 00a6e8cc 00e5f600 00a6c538 005749f4 We havent changed any witango code or software on the machine, this is coming just out of the blue it seems. anyone have any idea what might cause this? We are on windows 2003 server using witango 5.0.1.065, oterro (r:base) 2.6.00.03 and IIS. Thank you for any help! - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters And if you want to be "fully xml compliant" (witango is getting stricter on that sometime in the future isnt it? I recall something about that at the last conference), you will want to quote just about EVERYTHING so better safe now then sorry later on i think (: for the xml compliance it's only for attributes of tags though if i understand correctly, so instead of this which works now: <@RANDOM HIGH=100 LOW=1> you'd want this: <@RANDOM HIGH="100" LOW="1"> - Original Message - From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters Here is a couple of quick rules that I use in Witango If it is contains a space "Quote It" If it is a String/Text "Quote it even if it doesn't have a space" If it is a number "Quoting Optional" if the number is in a Witango Variable "Quote It" You can pretty much quote all because Witango doesn't use explicitly typed vars they pretty much are all strings <@CALC EXP="1 + 1"> = <@CALC EXP="'1' + '1'"> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters Hello everyone, sorry for this maybe stupid question; what is correct quoting in a method call? if the parameters are integer values, should they be quoted anyway? Thanks for all help Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
Thanks for all input, I had the exact same problem on the old server, so it might not be a hardware problem. Although we scavenged the old server for more RAM last week. Server is stable under low and moderate usage. No crashes at night! But, as soon as usage goes up (morning and afternoon) Where do you find log entries that indicate cache flushes? If i compare the tango log with the event log I almost always find a line like this at the corresponding timestamp: 02/12/2004 16:51:27 . [Expired] Variables for key [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are the user timouts crashing my server? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand So, it sounds like you have some memory issues. I'd say a memory upgrade, or swap may do the trick. If the Witango logs indicates a lot of cache flushes, try increasing the cache to something ridiculous, like 100MB. Any possibility of moving it to a Xeon based server? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 12:13:46 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand The total size of all tafs and tcfs is about 5 megs. The server is a P4-2.8 with hyperthreading / 2Gb RAM / tons of disc rack mounted server. - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand I don't think so. What kind of hardware are you running this on? What's the total size of all taf, tcf, and include files? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:33 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Michael, im running witango 5.5 with SQL server 2000 Sp3 on a Windows 2003 standard edition. It crashes, say at least 4 times a day. Im using standard TAFs and TCF's. The Classfiles are in a shared scope, to lower overhead. Is it possible to set up load balancing and multiple servers on a standard edition server? Thanks for all help Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-T
Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
So, it sounds like you have some memory issues. I'd say a memory upgrade, or swap may do the trick. If the Witango logs indicates a lot of cache flushes, try increasing the cache to something ridiculous, like 100MB. Any possibility of moving it to a Xeon based server? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 12:13:46 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand The total size of all tafs and tcfs is about 5 megs. The server is a P4-2.8 with hyperthreading / 2Gb RAM / tons of disc rack mounted server. - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand I don't think so. What kind of hardware are you running this on? What's the total size of all taf, tcf, and include files? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:33 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Michael, im running witango 5.5 with SQL server 2000 Sp3 on a Windows 2003 standard edition. It crashes, say at least 4 times a day. Im using standard TAFs and TCF's. The Classfiles are in a shared scope, to lower overhead. Is it possible to set up load balancing and multiple servers on a standard edition server? Thanks for all help Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / window s environment, please raise a hand
Kinda curious. Assuming you are running multiple instances of Witango. Do any of the instances of ever Witango crash? What db are you running? Is it on the same server? How many requests per Witango service are you averaging per day? How many sqls are you averaging per day? Thanks Steve Fogelson -Original Message-From: Wolf, Gene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:56 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running 2003 Server (quad processor) with 5.0 Professional and it's quite stable. Most of the time when we have to reboot it's because of something other than Witango crashing on us. -Original Message-From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:14 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
We're running 2003 Server (quad processor) with 5.0 Professional and it's quite stable. Most of the time when we have to reboot it's because of something other than Witango crashing on us. -Original Message-From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:14 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
I agree, just trying to get it into all Witango ... Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: John McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> That reminds me... a while back i was integrating a site with "intershipper.net" and at the time their XML interface was not using HTTP it was a simple open socket, send string, get response kind of protocol. I think i wrote a little bit of java to do that part for me, but it sure would have been easier if they used HTTP instead. /John Alan Wolfe wrote: >oh..nope > >wget cant do that but like john said shouldnt be too hard to make something >like that in a language that can do sockets > >- Original Message - >From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:28 PM >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > >>This is thru TCPIP just open a port IP:PORT (ie. 192.168.0.1:49000) send >>value, then the server at IP:PORT sends Response string. >> >>This is for Check Validation >> >>Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com >>Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller >>Available for Witango Developement >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:26 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> >> >>what do you mean by wait for results? is this http protocol? >> >>one thing i have used wget for is actualy for sending information to other >>servers via search args, ie if i do... >> >>wget www.mydomain.com/blah.taf?function=addname&name=Ben%20Johansen >> >>then, im not really using wget to GET a page, more like using it to send a >>request to another server :P >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:18 PM >>Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. >>>I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT >>>Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> >>>And then wait for results. >>> >>>I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. >>> >>>Can WGET do this? >>> >>>Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com >>>Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller >>>Available for Witango Developement >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> >>> >>>It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes >>> >>>http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html >>> >>>wget rocks >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM >>>Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> >>> >>> >>> >>> I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to >do > > the @URL, like "wget" wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. /John Robert Shubert wrote: >There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've >wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use >@URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will > > >@URL > > >with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a >variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app >@SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If >not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site > > >isn't > > >available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but >you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert > >-Original Message- >*From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >*Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM >*To:* WiTango-Talk >*Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > >*Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time > > >for > > >a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout > > >>setting? >> >> >>>* >>> >>> >* * > >*The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true > > >or > > >false. * > >* * > >*I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like >to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* > >* * > >*Any ideas?* > >Chuck Lockwood > >LockData Technologies, Inc. >309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 >570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 5
Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
That reminds me... a while back i was integrating a site with "intershipper.net" and at the time their XML interface was not using HTTP it was a simple open socket, send string, get response kind of protocol. I think i wrote a little bit of java to do that part for me, but it sure would have been easier if they used HTTP instead. /John Alan Wolfe wrote: oh..nope wget cant do that but like john said shouldnt be too hard to make something like that in a language that can do sockets - Original Message - From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> This is thru TCPIP just open a port IP:PORT (ie. 192.168.0.1:49000) send value, then the server at IP:PORT sends Response string. This is for Check Validation Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> what do you mean by wait for results? is this http protocol? one thing i have used wget for is actualy for sending information to other servers via search args, ie if i do... wget www.mydomain.com/blah.taf?function=addname&name=Ben%20Johansen then, im not really using wget to GET a page, more like using it to send a request to another server :P - Original Message - From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> And then wait for results. I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. Can WGET do this? Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html wget rocks - Original Message - From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do the @URL, like "wget" wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. /John Robert Shubert wrote: There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn't available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert -Original Message- *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM *To:* WiTango-Talk *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? * * * *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or false. * * * *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* * * *Any ideas?* Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies, Inc. 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
You should check to see if the service you're working with will accept some form of a standard protocol like http or XML over http. I hate it when someone basically creates their own "simple" protocol that stops you from using already existing tools out there, like @URL or wget. There are many ways to crack this particular nut /John Ben Johansen wrote: This is thru TCPIP just open a port IP:PORT (ie. 192.168.0.1:49000) send value, then the server at IP:PORT sends Response string. This is for Check Validation Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> what do you mean by wait for results? is this http protocol? one thing i have used wget for is actualy for sending information to other servers via search args, ie if i do... wget www.mydomain.com/blah.taf?function=addname&name=Ben%20Johansen then, im not really using wget to GET a page, more like using it to send a request to another server :P - Original Message - From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> And then wait for results. I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. Can WGET do this? Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html wget rocks - Original Message - From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do the @URL, like "wget" wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. /John Robert Shubert wrote: There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn't available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert -Original Message- *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM *To:* WiTango-Talk *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? * * * *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or false. * * * *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* * * *Any ideas?* Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies, Inc. 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
oh..nope wget cant do that but like john said shouldnt be too hard to make something like that in a language that can do sockets - Original Message - From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > This is thru TCPIP just open a port IP:PORT (ie. 192.168.0.1:49000) send > value, then the server at IP:PORT sends Response string. > > This is for Check Validation > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > Available for Witango Developement > > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > what do you mean by wait for results? is this http protocol? > > one thing i have used wget for is actualy for sending information to other > servers via search args, ie if i do... > > wget www.mydomain.com/blah.taf?function=addname&name=Ben%20Johansen > > then, im not really using wget to GET a page, more like using it to send a > request to another server :P > > - Original Message - > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:18 PM > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. > > I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT > > Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> > > And then wait for results. > > > > I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. > > > > Can WGET do this? > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > > Available for Witango Developement > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes > > > > http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html > > > > wget rocks > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > > > > I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do > > > the @URL, like "wget" > > > > > > wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. > > > > > > /John > > > > > > Robert Shubert wrote: > > > > > > > There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've > > > > wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use > > > > @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL > > > > with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a > > > > variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app > > > > @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If > > > > not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn't > > > > available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but > > > > you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM > > > > *To:* WiTango-Talk > > > > *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > > > > > *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for > > > > a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout > setting? > > * > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or > > > > false. * > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like > > > > to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > *Any ideas?* > > > > > > > > Chuck Lockwood > > > > > > > > LockData Technologies, Inc. > > > > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 > > > > 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > _
RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
This is thru TCPIP just open a port IP:PORT (ie. 192.168.0.1:49000) send value, then the server at IP:PORT sends Response string. This is for Check Validation Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> what do you mean by wait for results? is this http protocol? one thing i have used wget for is actualy for sending information to other servers via search args, ie if i do... wget www.mydomain.com/blah.taf?function=addname&name=Ben%20Johansen then, im not really using wget to GET a page, more like using it to send a request to another server :P - Original Message - From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. > I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT > Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> > And then wait for results. > > I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. > > Can WGET do this? > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > Available for Witango Developement > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes > > http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html > > wget rocks > > - Original Message - > From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do > > the @URL, like "wget" > > > > wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. > > > > /John > > > > Robert Shubert wrote: > > > > > There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've > > > wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use > > > @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL > > > with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a > > > variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app > > > @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If > > > not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn't > > > available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but > > > you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM > > > *To:* WiTango-Talk > > > *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > > > *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for > > > a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? > * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or > > > false. * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like > > > to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *Any ideas?* > > > > > > Chuck Lockwood > > > > > > LockData Technologies, Inc. > > > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 > > > 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com > > > > > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
WGET uses HTTP or FTP to "GET" a file. it sound like what you need to do is more simple, Open up a socket, send a string wait for a response although similar to HTTP is actually a protocol of it's own. Writing a program in just about any language with a good socket library wouldn't be hard at all. /John Ben Johansen wrote: Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> And then wait for results. I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. Can WGET do this? Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html wget rocks - Original Message - From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do the @URL, like "wget" wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. /John Robert Shubert wrote: There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn't available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert -Original Message- *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM *To:* WiTango-Talk *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? * * * *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or false. * * * *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* * * *Any ideas?* Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies, Inc. 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
what do you mean by wait for results? is this http protocol? one thing i have used wget for is actualy for sending information to other servers via search args, ie if i do... wget www.mydomain.com/blah.taf?function=addname&name=Ben%20Johansen then, im not really using wget to GET a page, more like using it to send a request to another server :P - Original Message - From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. > I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT > Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> > And then wait for results. > > I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. > > Can WGET do this? > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > Available for Witango Developement > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes > > http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html > > wget rocks > > - Original Message - > From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do > > the @URL, like "wget" > > > > wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. > > > > /John > > > > Robert Shubert wrote: > > > > > There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've > > > wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use > > > @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL > > > with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a > > > variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app > > > @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If > > > not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn't > > > available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but > > > you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM > > > *To:* WiTango-Talk > > > *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > > > *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for > > > a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? > * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or > > > false. * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like > > > to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *Any ideas?* > > > > > > Chuck Lockwood > > > > > > LockData Technologies, Inc. > > > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 > > > 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com > > > > > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
Hi, lked at the docs and can you give me a quick yes or no. I had a situation where I need to send a string down a specific IP:PORT Example of sting <@CHAR 2>String<@CHAR 3> And then wait for results. I am doing this through PHP and calling it from a IFRAME. Can WGET do this? Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller Available for Witango Developement -Original Message- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html wget rocks - Original Message - From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do > the @URL, like "wget" > > wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. > > /John > > Robert Shubert wrote: > > > There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I've > > wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use > > @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL > > with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a > > variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app > > @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If > > not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn't > > available. Crude, but it should work - 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but > > you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert > > > > -Original Message- > > *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM > > *To:* WiTango-Talk > > *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for > > a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? * > > > > * * > > > > *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or > > false. * > > > > * * > > > > *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like > > to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* > > > > * * > > > > *Any ideas?* > > > > Chuck Lockwood > > > > LockData Technologies, Inc. > > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 > > 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
It is, check out --timeout=, by default its set to 15 minutes http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~bioskill/MAN/wget.html wget rocks - Original Message - From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do > the @URL, like "wget" > > wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. > > /John > > Robert Shubert wrote: > > > There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I’ve > > wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use > > @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL > > with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a > > variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app > > @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If > > not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn’t > > available. Crude, but it should work – 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but > > you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert > > > > -Original Message- > > *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM > > *To:* WiTango-Talk > > *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > > > *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for > > a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? * > > > > * * > > > > *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or > > false. * > > > > * * > > > > *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like > > to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* > > > > * * > > > > *Any ideas?* > > > > Chuck Lockwood > > > > LockData Technologies, Inc. > > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 > > 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
I would suggest using an external action to call a 3rd party tool to do the @URL, like "wget" wget is probably robust enough to handle a configurable timeout value. /John Robert Shubert wrote: There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I’ve wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn’t available. Crude, but it should work – 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert -Original Message- *From:* Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM *To:* WiTango-Talk *Subject:* Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> *Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? * * * *The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or false. * * * *I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on.* * * *Any ideas?* Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies, Inc. 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
HT isn’t going to help much. The differences between pro and standard should not change the amount of crashes you have. Memory and other general system stability can, however. You should try to evaluate each crash and see if it’s a repeatable/predictable situation. There are a few crashes that I see that are truly random, but many are explainable. I can usually get from 100,000 to 200,000 requests from a service before it runs the risk of crashing. Robert -Original Message- From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand The total size of all tafs and tcfs is about 5 megs. The server is a P4-2.8 with hyperthreading / 2Gb RAM / tons of disc rack mounted server. - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand I don't think so. What kind of hardware are you running this on? What's the total size of all taf, tcf, and include files? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:33 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Michael, im running witango 5.5 with SQL server 2000 Sp3 on a Windows 2003 standard edition. It crashes, say at least 4 times a day. Im using standard TAFs and TCF's. The Classfiles are in a shared scope, to lower overhead. Is it possible to set up load balancing and multiple servers on a standard edition server? Thanks for all help Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
There is no direct method, no. This should be on the wishlist, I’ve wanted something like this as well. One thing that you can do is use @URL without wait for results to fire off another TAF which will @URL with wait for results. This second taf will save the response in a variable or text file or something. Then have have the first app @SLEEP for 15 seconds and see if the var/text file is available. If not, move on. The second TAF will timeout naturally if the site isn’t available. Crude, but it should work – 5.5 only with the @SLEEP, but you can use other COM based sleep objects. Robert -Original Message- From: Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:56 PM To: WiTango-Talk Subject: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or false. I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on. Any ideas? Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies, Inc. 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
Thanks Scott, but actually it's the opposite problem. The web service is tying up the action for a couple of minutes then returns an error message. I don't want to wait for the response; I want to abandon the request after 15 seconds or so. I can use the <@SLEEP> idea in another area though, thanks! Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies, Inc. 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com -Original Message- From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> Hi Chuck, Forcing <@URL> to wait is probably impossible with adding a timeout attribute I suppose. But...if you're using 5.5, then I would suggest putting the <@URL> call in a <@FOR> or <@WHILE> (new) loop with the new <@SLEEP> Metatag. This way you can "try" to get the results several times, with a short "pause" between each request. When <@URL> returns successfully, then <@BREAK> out of the <@FOR> loop. Not exactly what you're looking for, but it may help Scott Cadillac, XML-Extranet ~ 403-254-5002 ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well-formed Programming in C# ASP.NET, Witango and XML For Hire ~ http://xmlx.ca/forhire IExtranet ~ http://IExtranet.net Weblog ~ http://xmlx.ca Forums ~ http://forums.xmlx.ca Knowledge Base ~ http://kb.xmlx.ca P.O. Box 69006 RPO Bridlewood SW Calgary, Alberta Canada T2Y 4T9 > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:56 AM > To: WiTango-Talk > Subject: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of > time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system > QueryTimeout setting? > > > > The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects > true or false. > > > > I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I > would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Chuck Lockwood > > LockData Technologies, Inc. > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 > 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com > > > > > > > __ > __ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
The total size of all tafs and tcfs is about 5 megs. The server is a P4-2.8 with hyperthreading / 2Gb RAM / tons of disc rack mounted server. - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand I don't think so. What kind of hardware are you running this on? What's the total size of all taf, tcf, and include files? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:33 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Michael, im running witango 5.5 with SQL server 2000 Sp3 on a Windows 2003 standard edition. It crashes, say at least 4 times a day. Im using standard TAFs and TCF's. The Classfiles are in a shared scope, to lower overhead. Is it possible to set up load balancing and multiple servers on a standard edition server? Thanks for all help Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
I don't think so. What kind of hardware are you running this on? What's the total size of all taf, tcf, and include files? - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:33 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Michael, im running witango 5.5 with SQL server 2000 Sp3 on a Windows 2003 standard edition. It crashes, say at least 4 times a day. Im using standard TAFs and TCF's. The Classfiles are in a shared scope, to lower overhead. Is it possible to set up load balancing and multiple servers on a standard edition server? Thanks for all help Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
Hi Chuck, Forcing <@URL> to wait is probably impossible with adding a timeout attribute I suppose. But...if you're using 5.5, then I would suggest putting the <@URL> call in a <@FOR> or <@WHILE> (new) loop with the new <@SLEEP> Metatag. This way you can "try" to get the results several times, with a short "pause" between each request. When <@URL> returns successfully, then <@BREAK> out of the <@FOR> loop. Not exactly what you're looking for, but it may help Scott Cadillac, XML-Extranet ~ 403-254-5002 ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well-formed Programming in C# ASP.NET, Witango and XML For Hire ~ http://xmlx.ca/forhire IExtranet ~ http://IExtranet.net Weblog ~ http://xmlx.ca Forums ~ http://forums.xmlx.ca Knowledge Base ~ http://kb.xmlx.ca P.O. Box 69006 RPO Bridlewood SW Calgary, Alberta Canada T2Y 4T9 > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:56 AM > To: WiTango-Talk > Subject: Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL> > > Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of > time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system > QueryTimeout setting? > > > > The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects > true or false. > > > > I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I > would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Chuck Lockwood > > LockData Technologies, Inc. > 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 > 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com > > > > > > > __ > __ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
Michael, im running witango 5.5 with SQL server 2000 Sp3 on a Windows 2003 standard edition. It crashes, say at least 4 times a day. Im using standard TAFs and TCF's. The Classfiles are in a shared scope, to lower overhead. Is it possible to set up load balancing and multiple servers on a standard edition server? Thanks for all help Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
Well, there was a performance hit before I moved the cache up because it was constantly flushing the cache. It wasn't crashing any more, but it was noticably slower. Once I moved the cache up, the flushing statements went away and the performance went up. The Pro license allows you to take advantage of multiple processors. We have 4-way Xeon server. So, we really needed it. Also, what version of the server are you running? I had some stability problems with 5.0.1.062 or 5.0.1.065 Standard. One of them worked well for me. The other gave me some problems. Not sure if it's the upgrade to 5.5 that did it, or the move to the Pro edition because we did both at the same time. -Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:54:55 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: 5.5 - <@URL>
Is there a way to have the <@URL> wait a specific amount of time for a response then timeout, regardless of the system QueryTimeout setting? The 5.5 syntax has a WAITFORRESULT attribute, but it expects true or false. I am dealing with a web service that is unreliable, so I would like to wait 15 seconds or so then continue on. Any ideas? Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies, Inc. 309 Main Avenue, Hawley, Pa 18428 570-226-7340 ~ Fax: 570-226-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.lockdata.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
Thats great to hear! Did you have problems with the Pro edition, until you raised the cache size to 50 megs? What are the differences of the standard and pro edition? Peter - Original Message - From: Michael Croft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
We're running Win 2k3 and SQL Server 2k SP3 without any problems, despite my lousy coding. We used to have similar issues with the 5.0 Standard edition. So, we moved up to the 5.5 Pro edition and put it on new hardware with lots of memory. I found that I had to raise the Cachesize to 50 MB, which is approx. twice the size of all my app files, classes, and includes files. Hand raised. - Original Message - From: Peter Ternström To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/3/2004 10:13:55 AM Subject: Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: favicon.ico
Rick, Thanks for the response. The documentation I have read indicates you can locate the file in a different location and then you have to indicate where in the statement. Because my domains are sharing a common root, I can't have a unique favicon for each domain if they are located in the root. So I placed the unique icon in each domain's subfolder within the root and specify it in the command. The tag contains a custom scoped variable to point to the proper location. It appears some of the browsers are hard coded to find the icon in the root directory ignoring the tag. Using IE 6.0 and the "Add Favorite" option, it locates the file properly. Maybe I will have to live with it. I was thinking their might be a different strategy to fix this. FYI: I am using IIS 6.0 on a Web Edition 2003 server. Steve -Original Message- From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: favicon.ico Hi Steve, I believe the correct reference is this: Rick Sanders <@SNIP> > Each page has the following: > type="image/ico"> http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Everyone here with a stable witango 5+ / windows environment, please raise a hand
Hi all! if you have witango5.x / windows environment with acceptable stability, please raise a hand! Peter TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: favicon.ico
Hi Steve, I believe the correct reference is this: Rick Sanders <@SNIP> Each page has the following: TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: favicon.ico
I have an application of many domains to one set of tafs. I also have a folder for each domain for includes, templates, css, etc. I have also placed my favicon.ico file in that folder. Because of the way I have this setup, I really don't have an exclusive root for each domain, they share a root directory. Each page has the following: I am getting the following in my IIS log which shows that some favicon.ico requests are completing properly: 2004-12-02 00:06:15 GET /Sites/reeds/Image/favicon.ico - - 68.174.248.43 HTTP/1.1 Mozilla/5.0+(Macintosh;+U;+PPC+Mac+OS+X;+en-us)+AppleWebKit/125.4+(KHTML,+li ke+Gecko)+Safari/125.9 Witango_UserReference=698E6A2927E554B141AE5C75 - www.reedssports.com 200 0 0 4941 525 328 But I am also getting the following in my Witango.log indicating that some requests are not getting processed properly. Evidently yhey are disrequarding my statement. Maybe this is browser dependant. 02/12/2004 05:20:3166.82.9.70 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 38201 1 [Application File] START /404/404reeds.taf Witango_Server_5 404;http://www.reedssports.com:80/favicon.ico I know some of you are using the many domains to one set of app files strategy. I was wondering how you get around this. Thanks Steve Fogelson Internet Commerce Solutions TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters
Peter We have been experience the same thing. I havent figured out what causes the crashes yet I just got software that checks to see if the site is up and if it isnt I have it run a batch script to kill the process and restart it. And I have seen it crash every two hours or less during our peek hours. And just to let you know what our traffic is about to compare we get approximately 30,000 unique hosts a day and about 160,000 hits a day. Mike D Educational Directories Unlimited, Inc. Michael Dittbrenner Systems Administrator http://www.StudyAbroad.com http://www.GradSchools.com A service of EDU, Inc... http://www.EDUdirectories.com A partner of EDU Internet Strategies: http://www.EDUInternetStrategies.com/ [Phone] 610-499-9200 [Fax]610-499-9205 [E-mail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Peter Ternström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters Two crashes today so far. The first version of the system was written in Tango2k, then when new releases were available the system was migrated upwards and now resides on tango 5.5. The problems started with 5.0. Objects, shouldnt they be cached in "application cache"? Include cache is for include files, like html, right? Looking at the processes I see no process "eating memory". SQL server eats almost 800 megs, though, but I guess that is normal. Witango stays under 30 megs. Today I have increased the worker threads from 5 to 40, and cachesize from 10 to 20 Megs, to see if the problem goes away. (Tango process jumped up to 110 Megs of memory rightaway) Thanks for all help! Peter - Original Message - From: "Bill Conlon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters Random thoughts: Did the same code run on v5, and this problem only started with 5.5? Are you monitoring the processes to see whether memory use is growing excessively? Maybe some memory leak got introduced with object instantiation? Wasn't there a change in how include files were handled in v5.5? Can you allocate more memory for includes, and see if the problem is the same or better? On Wednesday, December 1, 2004, at 04:44 PM, Peter Ternström wrote: > i havent used the search builders since 1996 :-), but still find the > search action very convenient. Its only when I have to do more custom > searches (like user row sorting) that I use the DBMS action instead. > > At this moment our production server hosts about 140 community systems > for clients. Among these you find Customer clubs, Trade union member > systems, Youth project communities, Government e-democracy solutions etc. > All communities share the exact same code. > > Its hard to give you any good measure of load, as in "hits". Looking at > todays report gives me about 2000 user logins during this afternoon, and > a peak of about 200 simultaneus users sessions. This made our server > crash 5 times. All crashes seem to be related to method calls. Also, > after the crash witango fails to restart which is very annoying. > > The crashes seem to follow a pattern. > > 1. A random action causes an Exception_access_violation: > > Event log: The "/dok_thread.taf" application file, action "Get_Dok", > caused an unrecoverable OS exception. (Get_Dok is a search action that > also contains a call method. Object resides in a custom scope shared > between all users) > > 2. Immediately after the first OS exception (same second), another 5-10 > actions cause exceptions: > > Event log: "/start.taf" application file, action "Users_Online", caused > an unrecoverable OS exception. > ... > ... > And the server "takes the red pill" > > > I have now updated nearly all call methods to be quoted correctly, as > stated in this thread. Well se if the crashing continues tomorrow. Im > holding my breath. (Ive been trying to fix this since august) > > Thanks again for all advice > > Peter > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:50 AM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters > > >> we use only DBMS so we just fixed those up, the search builders use >> correct >> sql syntax so they probably are not the problem. >> >> I cant recall what the errors were in the logs, it was about 2 years ago >> we >> dealed with it. we had to bang our head against the wall quite a while >> until >> we found the fix. >> >> We still have a crash ocasionaly but have something setup to automaticly >> restart witango if it goes down so it's not so bad. >> >> How much load are you under and how many crashes are you getting? >> >> - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters
Two crashes today so far. The first version of the system was written in Tango2k, then when new releases were available the system was migrated upwards and now resides on tango 5.5. The problems started with 5.0. Objects, shouldnt they be cached in "application cache"? Include cache is for include files, like html, right? Looking at the processes I see no process "eating memory". SQL server eats almost 800 megs, though, but I guess that is normal. Witango stays under 30 megs. Today I have increased the worker threads from 5 to 40, and cachesize from 10 to 20 Megs, to see if the problem goes away. (Tango process jumped up to 110 Megs of memory rightaway) Thanks for all help! Peter - Original Message - From: "Bill Conlon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters Random thoughts: Did the same code run on v5, and this problem only started with 5.5? Are you monitoring the processes to see whether memory use is growing excessively? Maybe some memory leak got introduced with object instantiation? Wasn't there a change in how include files were handled in v5.5? Can you allocate more memory for includes, and see if the problem is the same or better? On Wednesday, December 1, 2004, at 04:44 PM, Peter Ternström wrote: i havent used the search builders since 1996 :-), but still find the search action very convenient. Its only when I have to do more custom searches (like user row sorting) that I use the DBMS action instead. At this moment our production server hosts about 140 community systems for clients. Among these you find Customer clubs, Trade union member systems, Youth project communities, Government e-democracy solutions etc. All communities share the exact same code. Its hard to give you any good measure of load, as in "hits". Looking at todays report gives me about 2000 user logins during this afternoon, and a peak of about 200 simultaneus users sessions. This made our server crash 5 times. All crashes seem to be related to method calls. Also, after the crash witango fails to restart which is very annoying. The crashes seem to follow a pattern. 1. A random action causes an Exception_access_violation: Event log: The "/dok_thread.taf" application file, action "Get_Dok", caused an unrecoverable OS exception. (Get_Dok is a search action that also contains a call method. Object resides in a custom scope shared between all users) 2. Immediately after the first OS exception (same second), another 5-10 actions cause exceptions: Event log: "/start.taf" application file, action "Users_Online", caused an unrecoverable OS exception. ... ... And the server "takes the red pill" I have now updated nearly all call methods to be quoted correctly, as stated in this thread. Well se if the crashing continues tomorrow. Im holding my breath. (Ive been trying to fix this since august) Thanks again for all advice Peter - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters we use only DBMS so we just fixed those up, the search builders use correct sql syntax so they probably are not the problem. I cant recall what the errors were in the logs, it was about 2 years ago we dealed with it. we had to bang our head against the wall quite a while until we found the fix. We still have a crash ocasionaly but have something setup to automaticly restart witango if it goes down so it's not so bad. How much load are you under and how many crashes are you getting? - Original Message - From: "Peter Ternström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters Thanks for the advice. I get EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in the event log and the witango service stops abruptly. The SQL server is rock solid. Did you get these kind of errors, too? How did you change to more correct SQL syntax - did you use DBMS actions instead of standard "Search"? Peter - Original Message - From: "Alan Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Quoting of method call parameters > They were related to the database, Oterro would accept a whole lot of > variations of sql syntax (like sel instead of select, and you can omit > commas from column lists and such), but it turned out, some variations > worked better than others, and some would cause crashes. > > Changing to more correct SQL syntax made most of our problems disapear. > We > still have a couple crashes every handful of days but its much more > acceptable than it was. > > At one point in time we had a complicated while loop that under certain > circumstances would loop infinitely and cause witango to crash too, y
