Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]

[Mikal Anderson]

Delays are understandable
and part of the business, but communication is essential.
At least a monthly communication would go a long way
with the development community and I know I"m not
alone in this feeling.


Agreed. Phil does however answer his phone & will reply to your email.

Mikal Anderson
PDX


On 8/4/2008 9:29 PM, John Carrieri wrote:

Hi Christian,

I too have used witango for 11 years which is hard
to believe and also initially on a APPLE AWS 8550. When
we first started jokes.com (since sold too Comedy Central/
it sucks now despite the fact that they have still stayed in #1
position on goog) we had three front ends and one back end
running Butler and we made it work serving millions of viewers!
Since I've used tango / witango on everything from Enterprise level
Sun servers to the latest Xserves. Through all of this it has been
extremely stable through a decade of use, with the exception of running
it under 10.5. While I have used it on Mac and Sun platforms
I always appreciated that it could also run on Windows and
later Linux. Put quite simply it is a great flexible platform.

I understand the challenges that Witango must have as
a small company, with a complex product, but they need
to communicate to their customers. Delays are understandable
and part of the business, but communication is essential.
At least a monthly communication would go a long way
with the development community and I know I"m not
alone in this feeling.

Please, please communicate with us. I think that is all
anyone is asking.

Sincerely,
John



On 8/4/08 8:52 PM, "Christian Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


> It would be easy to post this message to the list.
>
> Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the
> communication with the still existing community.
>
> I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango.
>
> I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/Tango
> on an APPLE AWS 8550.
>
> It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/
> developing Witango
>
> Christian
>
>
> Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson:
>
>> Below is latest from Phil.
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]
>> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000
>> From: Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mikal,
>> The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code
>> is OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights.
>> Without these being finished we cannot release. We were also
>> advised to not issue any more betas until this was completed. When
>> the lawyers give us the OK we will get it out.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you. What's up with
>>> version 6?
>>>
>>> Mikal Anderson
>>> PDX
>>>
>>>
>>>  Original Message 
>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: Version 6?
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400
>>> From: Stefan Gonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com
>>> To: witango-talk@witango.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A while back someone predicted that version 6 was coming out last
>>> week,
>>> though it was obviously not from With. Was that a completely
>>> mistaken
>>> notion, or was there something to it? Is version 6 coming out any
>>> time soon?
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>
>> 
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]

[Christian Platt]

It would be easy to post this message to the list.

Or at least a person who is in connection with will could make the  
communication with the still existing community.


I do not know, how many peaple are still on the list or using witango.

I checked that this is my 11th year since starting With Butler/Tango  
on an APPLE AWS 8550.


It would be interesting to know, how many people are still using/ 
developing Witango


Christian


Am 04.08.2008 um 21:34 schrieb Mikal Anderson:


Below is latest from Phil.
 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]
Date:   Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000
From:   Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Mikal,
The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code  
is  OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights.   
Without  these being finished we cannot release.  We were also  
advised to not  issue any more betas until this was completed.  When  
the lawyers give  us the OK we will get it out.



Regards

Phil

On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote:

Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you.   What's up with  
version 6?


Mikal Anderson
PDX


 Original Message 
Subject:Witango-Talk: Version 6?
Date:   Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400
From:   Stefan Gonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   witango-talk@witango.com
To: witango-talk@witango.com



A while back someone predicted that version 6 was coming out last   
week,
though it was obviously not from With.  Was that a completely  
mistaken
notion, or was there something to it? Is version 6 coming out any   
time soon?


Stefan



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Re: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

[Kaustav Acharya]

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for the input, we'll look into it!

Sincerely,

Kaustav Acharya
   Technical  Customer Service Manager

  U. Inc.
  12250 El Camino Real, Suite #100
  San Diego, CA. 92130

  Office: (858) 847-3350 x1004
  Fax: (858) 847-3340
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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On Aug 4, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Stephen Su wrote:


Kaustav,

Try the WebGrabber server from activePDF . . . since it can work to  
convert web pages on the fly, I would imagine that this will work  
for you in your witango-only environment. You can use your witango  
infrastructure to structure the web pages (with full CSS/HTML) and  
WebGrabber will convert it to PDF.


Best of luck,
- stephen


On Aug 4, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Kaustav Acharya wrote:


Hi all,

Thanks for all the info. We're running a WiTango only based  
service here and are essentially needing to create a secure PDF of  
a certificate of completion.  I see that the two examples are  
branching out to PHP or ASP..is there no way to do it using  
WiTango directly?


Kaustav Acharya
   Technical  Customer Service Manager

  U. Inc.
  12250 El Camino Real, Suite #100
  San Diego, CA. 92130

  Office: (858) 847-3350 x1004
  Fax: (858) 847-3340
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://www.colleges.com


 All the News. No Ink. - http://www.onlinetimes.com
 Power to the People - http://www.campaign.com





On Aug 4, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Beverly Voth wrote:

We use activePDF for various web applications. If doing PHP, we  
just use
fpdf. It's not a "full" as the full PHP pdf versions, but does  
pretty much

what we want. 

--
Beverly Voth   Tier3 Data & Web Services  
Group, LLC
606-864-0041http://www.tier3web.com/ 
xml.htm


 Web Design & Hosting * Apple: CAN, ACN & ADC
   Certified FileMaker 7 & 9 Developer * FileMaker Business Alliance
Coldfusion, Witango, PHP, MS SQL, MySQL, FMP, XML/XSLT, CSS
   Over 14 years experience integrating databases and the internet!


On 8/4/08 3:56 PM, "WebDude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole  
or in

part:

I have. I use a combination of ActivePDF Toolkit, a smattering  
of ASP and
Witango. I use mostly Witango for data calls and such and when I  
need to
generate the PDF, I pass the values to ASP via hidden post  
arguements and load
variables on the ASP side. I have been using this for customized  
business
cards, sell sheets and realtor signs. I tried to use the ASP as  
includes but
could never get the combination of applications to work  
correctly. ActivePDF

Toolkit has modules built already for ASP and PHP.


activePDF Toolkit is the Swiss Army  Knife for PDF -  
virtually any PDF
manipulation task can be automated  through Toolkit's robust  
API. With

activePDF Toolkit you can:



* Apply watermarks and stamp images and text into PDF files.
* Merge multiple PDF documents into a single PDF file, adding   
bookmarks for

easy navigation.
* Dynamic PDF  form-filling
  -
populate PDF forms with database data and generate  form fields  
on the fly.

* Detect PDF tampering through Toolkit's fingerprint technology.
* Generate over 20 standard barcode types without requiring   
third-party

utilities or individual barcode fonts.
* Add dynamic headers, footers and page numbering to PDF documents.
* Convert  to PDF
  from

over 40 image types on the fly and embed Flash® files  within PDFs.
* Digitally sign PDF files and secure documents through PDF   
encryption.

 http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/toolkit/

 



From: Kaustav Acharya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:21 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

Hi to everyone on the list,

Has any had any experience generating a PDF from a Witango  
application? If so,

how did you go about it?


Kaustav Acharya
Technical Customer Service Manager



 


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Re: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

[Stephen Su]

Kaustav,

Try the WebGrabber server from activePDF . . . since it can work to  
convert web pages on the fly, I would imagine that this will work for  
you in your witango-only environment. You can use your witango  
infrastructure to structure the web pages (with full CSS/HTML) and  
WebGrabber will convert it to PDF.


Best of luck,
- stephen


On Aug 4, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Kaustav Acharya wrote:


Hi all,

Thanks for all the info. We're running a WiTango only based service  
here and are essentially needing to create a secure PDF of a  
certificate of completion.  I see that the two examples are  
branching out to PHP or ASP..is there no way to do it using WiTango  
directly?


Kaustav Acharya
   Technical  Customer Service Manager

  U. Inc.
  12250 El Camino Real, Suite #100
  San Diego, CA. 92130

  Office: (858) 847-3350 x1004
  Fax: (858) 847-3340
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://www.colleges.com


 All the News. No Ink. - http://www.onlinetimes.com
 Power to the People - http://www.campaign.com





On Aug 4, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Beverly Voth wrote:

We use activePDF for various web applications. If doing PHP, we  
just use
fpdf. It's not a "full" as the full PHP pdf versions, but does  
pretty much

what we want. 

--
Beverly Voth   Tier3 Data & Web Services  
Group, LLC
606-864-0041http://www.tier3web.com/ 
xml.htm


 Web Design & Hosting * Apple: CAN, ACN & ADC
   Certified FileMaker 7 & 9 Developer * FileMaker Business Alliance
Coldfusion, Witango, PHP, MS SQL, MySQL, FMP, XML/XSLT, CSS
   Over 14 years experience integrating databases and the internet!


On 8/4/08 3:56 PM, "WebDude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole  
or in

part:

I have. I use a combination of ActivePDF Toolkit, a smattering of  
ASP and
Witango. I use mostly Witango for data calls and such and when I  
need to
generate the PDF, I pass the values to ASP via hidden post  
arguements and load
variables on the ASP side. I have been using this for customized  
business
cards, sell sheets and realtor signs. I tried to use the ASP as  
includes but
could never get the combination of applications to work  
correctly. ActivePDF

Toolkit has modules built already for ASP and PHP.


activePDF Toolkit is the Swiss Army  Knife for PDF -  
virtually any PDF
manipulation task can be automated  through Toolkit's robust API.  
With

activePDF Toolkit you can:



* Apply watermarks and stamp images and text into PDF files.
* Merge multiple PDF documents into a single PDF file, adding   
bookmarks for

easy navigation.
* Dynamic PDF  form-filling
  -
populate PDF forms with database data and generate  form fields  
on the fly.

* Detect PDF tampering through Toolkit's fingerprint technology.
* Generate over 20 standard barcode types without requiring   
third-party

utilities or individual barcode fonts.
* Add dynamic headers, footers and page numbering to PDF documents.
* Convert  to PDF
  from

over 40 image types on the fly and embed Flash® files  within PDFs.
* Digitally sign PDF files and secure documents through PDF   
encryption.

 http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/toolkit/

 



From: Kaustav Acharya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:21 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

Hi to everyone on the list,

Has any had any experience generating a PDF from a Witango  
application? If so,

how did you go about it?


Kaustav Acharya
Technical Customer Service Manager



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Re: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

[Kaustav Acharya]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the info. We're running a WiTango only based service  
here and are essentially needing to create a secure PDF of a  
certificate of completion.  I see that the two examples are branching  
out to PHP or ASP..is there no way to do it using WiTango directly?


Kaustav Acharya
   Technical  Customer Service Manager

  U. Inc.
  12250 El Camino Real, Suite #100
  San Diego, CA. 92130

  Office: (858) 847-3350 x1004
  Fax: (858) 847-3340
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://www.colleges.com


 All the News. No Ink. - http://www.onlinetimes.com
 Power to the People - http://www.campaign.com





On Aug 4, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Beverly Voth wrote:

We use activePDF for various web applications. If doing PHP, we  
just use
fpdf. It's not a "full" as the full PHP pdf versions, but does  
pretty much

what we want. 

--
Beverly Voth   Tier3 Data & Web Services Group,  
LLC
606-864-0041http://www.tier3web.com/ 
xml.htm


 Web Design & Hosting * Apple: CAN, ACN & ADC
   Certified FileMaker 7 & 9 Developer * FileMaker Business Alliance
Coldfusion, Witango, PHP, MS SQL, MySQL, FMP, XML/XSLT, CSS
   Over 14 years experience integrating databases and the internet!


On 8/4/08 3:56 PM, "WebDude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole  
or in

part:

I have. I use a combination of ActivePDF Toolkit, a smattering of  
ASP and
Witango. I use mostly Witango for data calls and such and when I  
need to
generate the PDF, I pass the values to ASP via hidden post  
arguements and load
variables on the ASP side. I have been using this for customized  
business
cards, sell sheets and realtor signs. I tried to use the ASP as  
includes but
could never get the combination of applications to work correctly.  
ActivePDF

Toolkit has modules built already for ASP and PHP.


activePDF Toolkit is the Swiss Army  Knife for PDF - virtually  
any PDF
manipulation task can be automated  through Toolkit's robust API.  
With

activePDF Toolkit you can:



* Apply watermarks and stamp images and text into PDF files.
* Merge multiple PDF documents into a single PDF file, adding   
bookmarks for

easy navigation.
* Dynamic PDF  form-filling
  -
populate PDF forms with database data and generate  form fields on  
the fly.

* Detect PDF tampering through Toolkit's fingerprint technology.
* Generate over 20 standard barcode types without requiring  third- 
party

utilities or individual barcode fonts.
* Add dynamic headers, footers and page numbering to PDF documents.
* Convert  to PDF
  from

over 40 image types on the fly and embed Flash® files  within PDFs.
* Digitally sign PDF files and secure documents through PDF   
encryption.

 http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/toolkit/

 



From: Kaustav Acharya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:21 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

Hi to everyone on the list,

Has any had any experience generating a PDF from a Witango  
application? If so,

how did you go about it?


Kaustav Acharya
Technical Customer Service Manager



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Re: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

[Beverly Voth]

We use activePDF for various web applications. If doing PHP, we just use
fpdf. It's not a "full" as the full PHP pdf versions, but does pretty much
what we want. 

-- 
Beverly Voth   Tier3 Data & Web Services Group, LLC
606-864-0041http://www.tier3web.com/xml.htm

 Web Design & Hosting * Apple: CAN, ACN & ADC
   Certified FileMaker 7 & 9 Developer * FileMaker Business Alliance
Coldfusion, Witango, PHP, MS SQL, MySQL, FMP, XML/XSLT, CSS
   Over 14 years experience integrating databases and the internet!


On 8/4/08 3:56 PM, "WebDude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole or in
part:

> I have. I use a combination of ActivePDF Toolkit, a smattering of ASP and
> Witango. I use mostly Witango for data calls and such and when I need to
> generate the PDF, I pass the values to ASP via hidden post arguements and load
> variables on the ASP side. I have been using this for customized business
> cards, sell sheets and realtor signs. I tried to use the ASP as includes but
> could never get the combination of applications to work correctly. ActivePDF
> Toolkit has modules built already for ASP and PHP.
>  
>   
> activePDF Toolkit is the Swiss Army  Knife for PDF - virtually any PDF
> manipulation task can be automated  through Toolkit's robust API. With
> activePDF Toolkit you can:
>  
>   
>   
> * Apply watermarks and stamp images and text into PDF files.
> * Merge multiple PDF documents into a single PDF file, adding  bookmarks for
> easy navigation. 
> * Dynamic PDF  form-filling
>   -
> populate PDF forms with database data and generate  form fields on the fly.
> * Detect PDF tampering through Toolkit's fingerprint technology.
> * Generate over 20 standard barcode types without requiring  third-party
> utilities or individual barcode fonts.
> * Add dynamic headers, footers and page numbering to PDF documents.
> * Convert  to PDF
>   from
> over 40 image types on the fly and embed Flash® files  within PDFs.
> * Digitally sign PDF files and secure documents through PDF  encryption.
>  http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/toolkit/
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> From: Kaustav Acharya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: witango-talk@witango.com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?
> 
> Hi to everyone on the list,
> 
> Has any had any experience generating a PDF from a Witango application? If so,
> how did you go about it?
> 
> 
> Kaustav Acharya
> Technical Customer Service Manager
> 


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RE: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

[WebDude]

I have. I use a combination of ActivePDF Toolkit, a smattering of ASP and
Witango. I use mostly Witango for data calls and such and when I need to
generate the PDF, I pass the values to ASP via hidden post arguements and
load variables on the ASP side. I have been using this for customized
business cards, sell sheets and realtor signs. I tried to use the ASP as
includes but could never get the combination of applications to work
correctly. ActivePDF Toolkit has modules built already for ASP and PHP. 
 
  
 
activePDF Toolkit is the Swiss Army Knife for PDF - virtually any PDF
manipulation task can be automated through Toolkit's robust API. With
activePDF Toolkit you can: 
     


*   Apply watermarks and stamp images and text into PDF files. 

*   Merge multiple PDF documents into a single PDF file, adding
bookmarks for easy navigation. 

*   Dynamic PDF

form-filling - populate PDF forms with database data and generate form
fields on the fly. 

*   Detect PDF tampering through Toolkit's fingerprint technology. 

*   Generate over 20 standard barcode types without requiring
third-party utilities or individual barcode fonts. 

*   Add dynamic headers, footers and page numbering to PDF documents. 

*   Convert
 to
PDF from over 40 image types on the fly and embed FlashR files within PDFs. 

*   Digitally sign PDF files and secure documents through PDF
encryption. 

http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/toolkit/
 
  
 

  _  

From: Kaustav Acharya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:21 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?


Hi to everyone on the list, 

Has any had any experience generating a PDF from a Witango application? If
so, how did you go about it? 



Kaustav Acharya
Technical Customer Service Manager

U. Inc. 
12250 El Camino Real, Suite #100
San Diego, CA. 92130

Office: (858) 847-3350 x1004
Fax: (858) 847-3340
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]]

[Mikal Anderson]

Below is latest from Phil. 


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [Fwd: Witango-Talk: Version 6?]
Date:   Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:57:07 +1000
From:   Phil Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mikal Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Mikal,
The major issue we have is that we have to make sure that the code is  
OK to go open source and the license protects WT's rights.  Without  
these being finished we cannot release.  We were also advised to not  
issue any more betas until this was completed.  When the lawyers give  
us the OK we will get it out.



Regards

Phil

On August 1st, 2008, at 4:37 AM, Mikal Anderson wrote:

Phil, the list has not heard a peep from you.   
What's up with version 6?


Mikal Anderson
PDX


 Original Message 
Subject:Witango-Talk: Version 6?
Date:   Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:27:00 -0400
From:   Stefan Gonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   witango-talk@witango.com
To: witango-talk@witango.com



A while back someone predicted that version 6 was coming out last  
week,

though it was obviously not from With.  Was that a completely mistaken
notion, or was there something to it? Is version 6 coming out any  
time soon?


Stefan



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Witango-Talk: Adobe PDF Generation using Witango?

[Kaustav Acharya]

Hi to everyone on the list,

Has any had any experience generating a PDF from a Witango  
application? If so, how did you go about it?



Kaustav Acharya
   Technical  Customer Service Manager

  U. Inc.
  12250 El Camino Real, Suite #100
  San Diego, CA. 92130

  Office: (858) 847-3350 x1004
  Fax: (858) 847-3340
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://www.colleges.com


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Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6?

[Dan Stein]

Gene,
The should be something coming soon. As far as I know it is just the legal
issues in moving toward open source holding things up. But I am hoping there
will be an update soon from With so we know where everything is at and then
monthly updates till things are ready to roll. At this point I think it is
better to have it move to open source.

At least on the Windows side it still is working well. Meanwhile all we can
do is wait and hope that communication can be more regular even if it is
just to say nothing has changed
-- 
Dan Stein
FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
Digital Software Solutions
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'I wonder why we say that people are of different "races". It seems to me,
we're all running at the same speed and heading towards the same
destination. The only "winners" are the ones who've made the world a better
place for having been here.'
>From for Better or Worse 2/28/2006





From: "Wolf, Gene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" 
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 07:58:02 -0400
To: 
Conversation: Witango-Talk: Version 6?
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Version 6?

I also read the list and am as frustrated as anyone else with the lack of
support and communication from With. This lack of communication and news on
the product is one of the reasons my company has decided to move away from
Witango. It's hard to defend a product to management types when you don't
hear about it, no one seems to be using it and the only real support you can
contact are the people on this list and a semi-searchable e-mail archive.
 
Has anyone thought of suggesting to a larger company, like Apple or Oracle,
that they look at Witango as an acquisition? We are moving to Oracle and in
the training I have taken so far their reporting and programming tools are
far from the power Witango provides. Yes, I know Witango is supposed to be
going open source but, to me anyway, it seems like another dead end. I mean,
six months with no word? Even if things are running into roadblocks, which
always seems to happen, at least there could be monthly communication
stating that fact.
 
Some of us must have contacts within larger companies that might be able to
get them to at least look at Witango and evaluate it. Some company other
than Pervasive that is. *grins* If Apple or Oracle picked up Witango I
imagine within a relatively short time we'd see improvements, additional
functionality, and communications. It would also make it much, much easier
to sell to customers (I consider my management a customer) if we could say,
"Witango is an Apple (or place your large company name here) product."
 
Just a thought.


From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:48 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Version 6?

I can understand everyone¹s frustration in this regard. Although I don¹t
post much, I do read emails on the list.
Communication is very important, and because of the lack of communication
unfortunately many people have left the WiTango technology.
 
I can only hope that the delay is because of something really good on the
horizon. I don¹t know how WiTango sales have been, or how much interest
there is in the community, but I hope it¹s enough to keep WiTango going.
 


Rick Sanders
Webenergy
Canada: 902-431-7279
USA:   919-799-9076
Canada: www.webenergy.ca 
USA:   www.webenergyusa.com 
 

From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July-31-08 5:34 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6?
 
I have sent three back channel emails maybe more email to customer support
will get a response. But I agree communication keep declining and I fail to
understand why that is. I still love the product and even if 6 never came
out I would continue with 5.5 but it is a reasonable request from the
community that we be kept in the loop. Last we heard there were just a few
legal issues to resolve with open source license but then nothing. It has
been since 2/11/2008 since we had the last official word. 6 months.

Dan
-- 
Dan Stein
FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
FileMaker 9 Certified Developer
Digital Software Solutions
799 Evergreen Circle
Telford PA 18969
Land: 215-799-0192
Cell: 610-256-2843
Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st)
FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.dss-db.com


"When you are born, you cry and those who love you rejoice.  And if you
live your life as you should, when you die, you rejoice and those who
love you cry."


From: Jonah Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" 
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:00:02 -0600
To: "witango-talk@witango.com" 
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6?


Sorry, should have put a

 tag around my "one week" email.  I was only echoing the latest
information we received... which was months ago.

I like Witango and t

Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6? (With != Witango)

[Scott Cadillac]

> I also read the list and am as frustrated as anyone else with
> the lack of support and communication from With

Maybe that's because these criticism (and maybe some emails) are  
directed at the wrong people?


Before things start getting negative and moody again, it should be  
pointed out again that "With" is not associated with Witango - and  
hasn't been for more than a few years.


I don't know all the intimate legalities and history of course, but  
from what I remember, when Phil first purchased Tango "With  
Imagination" was the name of the company he was operating under. But  
that company was eventually split into "service" and "product"  
branches and the service part was sold along with the name "With". I  
don't remember the date exactly, but I think it was only a year or two  
after Phil acquired Witango.


Witango is owned and managed under "Witango Technologies", a separate  
company, a different website, a different email domain and even  
located in a different city than "With" - and naturally both companies  
are run by different people.


Hope that helps.

Scott,




On Aug-4-2008, at 8:58 AM, Wolf, Gene wrote:

I also read the list and am as frustrated as anyone else with the  
lack of support and communication from With. This lack of  
communication and news on the product is one of the reasons my  
company has decided to move away from Witango. It's hard to defend a  
product to management types when you don't hear about it, no one  
seems to be using it and the only real support you can contact are  
the people on this list and a semi-searchable e-mail archive.


Has anyone thought of suggesting to a larger company, like Apple or  
Oracle, that they look at Witango as an acquisition? We are moving  
to Oracle and in the training I have taken so far their reporting  
and programming tools are far from the power Witango provides. Yes,  
I know Witango is supposed to be going open source but, to me  
anyway, it seems like another dead end. I mean, six months with no  
word? Even if things are running into roadblocks, which always seems  
to happen, at least there could be monthly communication stating  
that fact.


Some of us must have contacts within larger companies that might be  
able to get them to at least look at Witango and evaluate it. Some  
company other than Pervasive that is. *grins* If Apple or Oracle  
picked up Witango I imagine within a relatively short time we'd see  
improvements, additional functionality, and communications. It would  
also make it much, much easier to sell to customers (I consider my  
management a customer) if we could say, "Witango is an Apple (or  
place your large company name here) product."


Just a thought.

From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:48 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Version 6?

I can understand everyone’s frustration in this regard. Although I  
don’t post much, I do read emails on the list.
Communication is very important, and because of the lack of  
communication unfortunately many people have left the WiTango  
technology.


I can only hope that the delay is because of something really good  
on the horizon. I don’t know how WiTango sales have been, or how  
much interest there is in the community, but I hope it’s enough to  
keep WiTango going.



Rick Sanders
Webenergy
Canada: 902-431-7279
USA:   919-799-9076
Canada: www.webenergy.ca
USA:   www.webenergyusa.com

From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July-31-08 5:34 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6?

I have sent three back channel emails maybe more email to customer  
support will get a response. But I agree communication keep  
declining and I fail to understand why that is. I still love the  
product and even if 6 never came out I would continue with 5.5 but  
it is a reasonable request from the community that we be kept in the  
loop. Last we heard there were just a few legal issues to resolve  
with open source license but then nothing. It has been since  
2/11/2008 since we had the last official word. 6 months.


Dan
--
Dan Stein
FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
FileMaker 9 Certified Developer
Digital Software Solutions
799 Evergreen Circle
Telford PA 18969
Land: 215-799-0192
Cell: 610-256-2843
Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st)
FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.dss-db.com


"When you are born, you cry and those who love you rejoice.  And  
if you

live your life as you should, when you die, you rejoice and those who
love you cry."

From: Jonah Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" 
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:00:02 -0600
To: "witango-talk@witango.com" 
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6?


Sorry, should have put a

 tag around my "one week" email.  I was only echoing the  
latest information we received... which was months ago.


I like Witango and the company that makes it, but the communicati

RE: Witango-Talk: Version 6?

[Wolf, Gene]

I also read the list and am as frustrated as anyone else with the lack
of support and communication from With. This lack of communication and
news on the product is one of the reasons my company has decided to move
away from Witango. It's hard to defend a product to management types
when you don't hear about it, no one seems to be using it and the only
real support you can contact are the people on this list and a
semi-searchable e-mail archive.
 
Has anyone thought of suggesting to a larger company, like Apple or
Oracle, that they look at Witango as an acquisition? We are moving to
Oracle and in the training I have taken so far their reporting and
programming tools are far from the power Witango provides. Yes, I know
Witango is supposed to be going open source but, to me anyway, it seems
like another dead end. I mean, six months with no word? Even if things
are running into roadblocks, which always seems to happen, at least
there could be monthly communication stating that fact.
 
Some of us must have contacts within larger companies that might be able
to get them to at least look at Witango and evaluate it. Some company
other than Pervasive that is. *grins* If Apple or Oracle picked up
Witango I imagine within a relatively short time we'd see improvements,
additional functionality, and communications. It would also make it
much, much easier to sell to customers (I consider my management a
customer) if we could say, "Witango is an Apple (or place your large
company name here) product." 
 
Just a thought.



From: Rick Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:48 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Version 6?



I can understand everyone's frustration in this regard. Although I don't
post much, I do read emails on the list.

Communication is very important, and because of the lack of
communication unfortunately many people have left the WiTango
technology.

 

I can only hope that the delay is because of something really good on
the horizon. I don't know how WiTango sales have been, or how much
interest there is in the community, but I hope it's enough to keep
WiTango going.

 

 

Rick Sanders

Webenergy

Canada: 902-431-7279

USA:   919-799-9076

Canada: www.webenergy.ca

USA:   www.webenergyusa.com

 

From: Dan Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: July-31-08 5:34 PM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6?

 

I have sent three back channel emails maybe more email to customer
support will get a response. But I agree communication keep declining
and I fail to understand why that is. I still love the product and even
if 6 never came out I would continue with 5.5 but it is a reasonable
request from the community that we be kept in the loop. Last we heard
there were just a few legal issues to resolve with open source license
but then nothing. It has been since 2/11/2008 since we had the last
official word. 6 months.

Dan
-- 
Dan Stein
FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
FileMaker 9 Certified Developer
Digital Software Solutions
799 Evergreen Circle
Telford PA 18969
Land: 215-799-0192
Cell: 610-256-2843
Fax 215-799-0192 ( Call 1st)
FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MySQL, CWP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.dss-db.com


"When you are born, you cry and those who love you rejoice.  And if
you
live your life as you should, when you die, you rejoice and those who
love you cry."





From: Jonah Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "witango-talk@witango.com" 
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:00:02 -0600
To: "witango-talk@witango.com" 
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Version 6?


Sorry, should have put a 

 tag around my "one week" email.  I was only echoing the
latest information we received... which was months ago.

I like Witango and the company that makes it, but the communication to
the community is poor...

/John


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Stefan Gonick
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

A while back someone predicted that version 6 was coming out last week,
though it was obviously not from With.  Was that a completely mistaken
notion, or was there something to it? Is version 6 coming out any time
soon?

Stefan

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