RE: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems
Throw out your MAC and get a Windows 2000 or 2003 server. You probably don't like that answer either. What changed? What new software has been installed? Do you have some stealthy virus, popups, spyware I know a lot of Mac users think they are immune to these things. Reload the OS. Sounds like you have some 3rd party software, friendly or unfriendly, causing problems. Oh, I need to say that I know nothing about Macs either. Troy -Original Message- From: Wayne Irvine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems I've been running Tango 2000 on Mac OS9/WebStar 4.5 here for years with the occasional hiccup. But right now I'm having a hell of a time. The server will stop seeing datasources. I can restart it and it will be fine for a few minutes then forget them again. Usually I just replace the WebStar application, settings and Tango plugin with fresh versions (I keep them in a folder on the desktop) and all is fine for a good long time. It's not working this time. Anybody from the old school familiar with this problem? Anyone got a solution. And please no Upgrade the WT5. I've got a WT5 license but that's a whole 'nother kettle o' fish. Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems
Troy Sosamon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Throw out your MAC and get a Windows 2000 or 2003 server. You suggest Windoze... Do you have some stealthy virus, popups, spyware Then suggest all the sorts of things Windoze users are constantly fighting with. Irony at it's best. I know a lot of Mac users think they are immune to these things. Yep, we do. Infact I didn't have any virus protection on any of my servers, but before posting here did install NAV and do a check. Virii found: 0 ;) I did find, and fix the problem. In fact it's a problem I had and fixed several months ago and totally forgot about. A client has a system that automatically uploads an 'update' file every hour and it is munged into their e-commerce set up. If the file is too large it can overload the system. This is due to limits of FileMaker and AppleEvents. Their POS people are supposed to have the system set up upload 10K chunks but apparently this is happening. As a result I'll write an AppleScript that will chop any oversized files before munging. Of course the real solution is to use a 'real' database, but this is what the client uses and hence it is the back end here. The problem here is not the database, nor the OS, but the flakey mind of the overworked/underpaid admin. See below: Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems
I ran this combo for VERY long stretches without this flavor of problem. Since I haven't played with OS 9 in a very long time, but some notions: check memory allocations. an event (file upload?) might gobble up all the memory allocated to W* or FMP and crap things out. Run all the utilities to make sure disk files aren't crapping out Kill prefs files. Your tafs might be corrupted. create a new one and drag your actions over to it and reset your data sources. I've had a couple of cases where that was true. BTW: witango 5 on OS X with W*5 works very smoothly and fast with FMP. I moved a pile of apps over that have FMP as back end and it was fast enough that single threaded FMP was not a bottleneck. On Jul 27, 2004, at 3:52 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote: I've been running Tango 2000 on Mac OS9/WebStar 4.5 here for years with the occasional hiccup. But right now I'm having a hell of a time. The server will stop seeing datasources. I can restart it and it will be fine for a few minutes then forget them again. Usually I just replace the WebStar application, settings and Tango plugin with fresh versions (I keep them in a folder on the desktop) and all is fine for a good long time. It's not working this time. Anybody from the old school familiar with this problem? Anyone got a solution. And please no Upgrade the WT5. I've got a WT5 license but that's a whole 'nother kettle o' fish. Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 ___ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems
Thanks Roland, I found the problem and it had nothing to do with Mac OS or Tango. Just a badly designed process and my forgetful brain. Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: witango 5 on OS X with W*5 works very smoothly and fast with FMP. I'm in the process of moving things over as we speak. I have a Dual 2Ghz Xserve just sitting there idling away. Unfortunately I've had a real problem with Witango hanging whenever I turn my back for 20 minutes. Have you experienced this issue? I've just installed 5.5FC and will be interested to see if the issue has been fixed. Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems
Is something changing files on your Web*? That is the only explanation for that. Is there a program scanning folders? I am running my Web* Application for years now (who of the win people can say that) on my os9 based machine. And it still works fine with the very old butler dtabase. Yes, we move, but slowly. and we now work with OSX. No idea of changing the platform. Christian Platt On 28.07.2004, at 00:52, Wayne Irvine wrote: I've been running Tango 2000 on Mac OS9/WebStar 4.5 here for years with the occasional hiccup. But right now I'm having a hell of a time. The server will stop seeing datasources. I can restart it and it will be fine for a few minutes then forget them again. Usually I just replace the WebStar application, settings and Tango plugin with fresh versions (I keep them in a folder on the desktop) and all is fine for a good long time. It's not working this time. Anybody from the old school familiar with this problem? Anyone got a solution. And please no Upgrade the WT5. I've got a WT5 license but that's a whole 'nother kettle o' fish. Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 ___ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems
define hanging is it crashing or going deaf or what? On Jul 27, 2004, at 8:54 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote: Thanks Roland, I found the problem and it had nothing to do with Mac OS or Tango. Just a badly designed process and my forgetful brain. Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: witango 5 on OS X with W*5 works very smoothly and fast with FMP. I'm in the process of moving things over as we speak. I have a Dual 2Ghz Xserve just sitting there idling away. Unfortunately I've had a real problem with Witango hanging whenever I turn my back for 20 minutes. Have you experienced this issue? I've just installed 5.5FC and will be interested to see if the issue has been fixed. Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 ___ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous Tango 2000 problems
Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: define hanging is it crashing or going deaf or what? I've got the Activity Monitor open and when it hangs it shows the process in red and '(Hung)' after it. And if you try to access it you get no response. I installed 5.5FC and I haven't seen a hang, but it has quit. Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
