Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-29 Thread Wayne Irvine
Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> that's what the ODBC-related crashes look like. Might be related to
> when the datasource connection expires.

Hmmm, less than what I would call robust. Is there a solution to the ODBC
problem?

That said, there have been some events since. I eventually decided to
restart the server, but it had other ideas. It got as far as loading the
menu bar and then got into a cycle of flashing the menu bar on and off
repeatedly. I tried starting in Safe mode but didn't know enough about the
shell to do anything useful. Tried several other key holds but to no avail.

I figured I could do a repair with the system disks but no, it wants to
erase the volume.

Eventually I started in Target disk mode (yes, an X Serve will do that) and
daisy chained my Powerbook - X Serve - 30Gb drive and did a back up to the
drive.

I then reinstalled OS X Server, WebStar, Witango, FileMaker and all the
other bits. Did much of it with the installers (from the back up drive), but
also copied over the 'Webserver' folder and various Witango License files
and configs.

The current set up hasn't crashed yet. The Witango process shows as Hung in
the activity monitor but still runs. Anybody know what a 'Hung' process
actually is.

This has been a fairly painful process and 10 months of (part time) work and
many thousands of aussie dollars spent and I'm still not convinced it's
stable.

Thank you for your feedback Roland. It would have been a fairly quiet and
lonely process otherwise (hint to Witango support ;) )

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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-29 Thread Roland Dumas
that's what the ODBC-related crashes look like. Might be related to  
when the datasource connection expires.

On Jul 28, 2004, at 10:40 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
I am beginning to suspect it's not a TAF or traffic problem. The  
problem
seems to happen when I'm not testing it and at this stage I'm the only  
one
hitting it (presumably).

I saw that it was running before I went to lunch, but when I got back  
it was
no longer running.

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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-28 Thread Wayne Irvine
I am beginning to suspect it's not a TAF or traffic problem. The problem
seems to happen when I'm not testing it and at this stage I'm the only one
hitting it (presumably).

I saw that it was running before I went to lunch, but when I got back it was
no longer running.

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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-28 Thread Roland Dumas
one more suggestion: look carefully at the results of your global  
search and replace. I had one case where an additional character  
occurred that tripped crashes.

On Jul 28, 2004, at 3:45 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You haven't converted all your tafs to get rid of the evil ¥ (yen)
All the TAFs under T2000 talk to remote hosts so the paths were very
different. I did multifile search and replace to change the  
datasources to
#.

making sure to save in Unix ISO Latin 1 character set and
not Mac character set.
Hmmm, this was something I was unaware of. Best check it out.
Thanks
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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-28 Thread Roland Dumas
On Jul 28, 2004, at 3:45 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You haven't converted all your tafs to get rid of the evil ¥ (yen)
All the TAFs under T2000 talk to remote hosts so the paths were very
different. I did multifile search and replace to change the 
datasources to
#.
I did too, originally, and missed a couple.


making sure to save in Unix ISO Latin 1 character set and
not Mac character set.
Hmmm, this was something I was unaware of. Best check it out.
Thanks
Wayne

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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-28 Thread Wayne Irvine
Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You haven't converted all your tafs to get rid of the evil ¥ (yen)

All the TAFs under T2000 talk to remote hosts so the paths were very
different. I did multifile search and replace to change the datasources to
#.

> making sure to save in Unix ISO Latin 1 character set and
> not Mac character set.

Hmmm, this was something I was unaware of. Best check it out.

Thanks

Wayne


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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-28 Thread Roland Dumas
hypothesis 1:
You haven't converted all your tafs to get rid of the evil ¥ (yen)  
sign. Tafs developed in prior versions of the studio (not sure which  
version changed) denote the "any source" for FMP with that character.   
They need to be changed to the # character, which won't kill witango.  
To do that, you need to open tafs in BBEdit or something like that and  
do the edits, making sure to save in Unix ISO Latin 1 character set and  
not Mac character set.

If you've done that, you may have missed one. find which it is either  
by searching each taf in BBEdit for ¥ or by going through all your tafs  
to see which db access action crashes witango.

(also run W* and W*mail on both machines that I run witango on and  
they've not been implicated in crashes ever. )

On Jul 28, 2004, at 2:56 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doesn't look like the crash logs I've seen, which are always  
associated
with ODBC.
are your data sources Filemaker?
Yes. FIleMaker 5.5
How much RAM in the machine?
1Gb.
It's also running 4D Webstar and  4D WebMail.
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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-28 Thread Wayne Irvine
Roland Dumas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Doesn't look like the crash logs I've seen, which are always associated
> with ODBC.
> are your data sources Filemaker?

Yes. FIleMaker 5.5

> How much RAM in the machine?

1Gb.

It's also running 4D Webstar and  4D WebMail.

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Re: Witango-Talk: Horrendous WT5 problems

2004-07-28 Thread Roland Dumas
Doesn't look like the crash logs I've seen, which are always associated 
with ODBC.
are your data sources Filemaker?
How much RAM in the machine?

On Jul 27, 2004, at 10:50 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
If anyone needs some bedtime reading following is the most recent 
crash log:

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