Re: [WiX-users] WIX Licensing

2010-08-26 Thread James Poole
Apparently my company is OK with the Eclipse Public License but not the
Common Public License, and the only change between the two is the removal of
this sentence in section 7:

*If Recipient institutes patent litigation against a Contributor with
respect to a patent applicable to software (including a cross-claim or
counterclaim in a lawsuit), then any patent licenses granted by that
Contributor to such Recipient under this Agreement shall terminate as of the
date such litigation is filed.

*Other companies apparently did have issues with this part of the CPL which
is why the Eclipse foundation created an updated version.

My question is this:

Is Microsoft still the ultimate decision maker when it comes to what license
this is released under?  What would the process be for having this get
released under a newer open source license?

-James

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Christopher Painter 
chr...@deploymentengineering.com wrote:

 That's interesting.  I also work for a very large software company and we
 have
 a highly formal process for evaluating tools with a group of people that
 study
 these things in extreme detail and while I did have to jump through some
 compliance hoops  ( for example we did Fortify security scans and I had to
 track
 down any false positives with the  help of Rob to justify the alerts )
 nobody
 made any such statement about the EULA.  I'm suspecting the person who made
 this
 decision is misinformed but unless we know there exact complaints it's hard
 to
 address them.

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 - Original Message 
 From: James Poole w...@slowcommotion.com
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 2:20:37 PM
 Subject: [WiX-users] WIX Licensing

 I just sat through a meeting at my employer for the last 3 months (a
 significantly large software company) who told me the CPL license WIX is
 released under was too restrictive to allow me to use it as a development
 tool.  Of course I just spent the last 2 months porting a horrific
 InstallShield installer to WIX...

 Is there any chance this license will ever get updated to a more recent
 open
 source license (CPL is sooo 2001).

 Or is there any way for me to purchase WIX under a different license?

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[WiX-users] WIX Licensing

2010-08-25 Thread James Poole
I just sat through a meeting at my employer for the last 3 months (a
significantly large software company) who told me the CPL license WIX is
released under was too restrictive to allow me to use it as a development
tool.  Of course I just spent the last 2 months porting a horrific
InstallShield installer to WIX...

Is there any chance this license will ever get updated to a more recent open
source license (CPL is sooo 2001).

Or is there any way for me to purchase WIX under a different license?
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[WiX-users] Supersede Patch

2010-07-26 Thread James Poole
This is more of a general MSI question...

Can a Patch that is NOT Uninstallable be superseded?

I seem to recall this being possible, but I am getting an error
Uninstallation of the patch package is not supported when I try to install
the second patch that supersedes the first.

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Re: [WiX-users] Messagebox from custom action with a lot of text

2010-07-19 Thread James Poole
Did you try just showing a standard windows forms message box from within
your C# custom action?

MessageBox.Show()

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:31 PM, daniel.knoep...@noser.com wrote:


 Hi Christopher

 I currently have the action scheduled after CreateFolders.  I use the CA
 almost like a startup-condition.  There may also be other places where i
 intend to show a messagebox, but this is not defined yet.

 I hoped it would be something rather simple, either a flag or set the focus
 of the WindowsForms message box.  I fear the solution may be a little more
 complicated.

 Greetings


 
 Von: Christopher Painter [chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 19. Juli 2010 18:18
 An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Messagebox from custom action with a lot of text

 Where is this custom action scheduled?   I usually have a reusable dialog
 that
 contains an error property and then have my CA set the property and return.
 ControlEvents then detect the error property has data and do a SpawnDialog
 on
 the  generic error dialog and gate transition to the next dialog.

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 - Original Message 
 From: daniel.knoep...@noser.com daniel.knoep...@noser.com
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 10:55:12 AM
 Subject: [WiX-users] Messagebox from custom action with a lot of text

 Hi

 In our wix installer a C# custom action, needs to pop up a window to show a
 message that might be quite long.
 I currently do it the following way:


 public void ShowWarningMessageBox(string pMessage)

 {



 Record record = new Record();

 record.FormatString = pMessage;

 Session.Message(InstallMessage.Error |
 (InstallMessage)System.Windows.Forms.MessageBoxIcon.Warning |

 (InstallMessage)System.Windows.Forms.MessageBoxButtons.OK, record);





 Unfortunately, longer messages are not fully shown, only parts of it. Is
 there a
 way to ensure that the entire text is displayed?



 If somehow possible, i would like to stick with the Wix session.Message
 method,
 rather than using windows forms because of the focus. If somebody knows,
 how to
 ensure that the focus is set correctly in a windows forms message box, i
 would
 also happily go with that (preventing displaying a msgbox in silent mode is
 no
 problem as the uilevel property can be checked)



 Greetigns and thanks in advance



 Dan

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Re: [WiX-users] RemoveExisting Products failing with /qn upgrade

2010-07-17 Thread James Poole
Thanks for the input guys... Tom, I owe you a beer.

In case anyone finds this in the archives:

There was a custom action that was slamming the property referenced in the
ActionProperty column of the Upgrade Table.  During the UI sequence, it was
scheduled before FindRelatedProducts so it had not effect, but for the
Execute Sequece it was after.

The property was getting set to 1, so it now makes sense that the log said
Product: 1 during RemoveExistingProducts.

Thanks again,
James

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Blair os...@live.com wrote:

 Also, try running a pure uninstall in quiet mode with logging.

 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Svare [mailto:thomas_sv...@symantec.com]
 Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 5:17 AM
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] RemoveExisting Products failing with /qn upgrade

 One thing to look at would be how FindRelatedProducts is scheduled in
 the InstallUISequence and InstallExecuteSequence.  Also look at what the
 ActionProperty in the Upgrade table is set to in both cases.

 Thanks,
 Tom

 -Original Message-
 From: James Poole [mailto:w...@slowcommotion.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:34 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] RemoveExisting Products failing with /qn upgrade

 Does any know why the RemoveExistingProducts action would fail when an
 upgrade is run silently?

 If I run in full UI mode, everything works as expected.  If I run the
 upgrade with /qn, the RemoveExistingProducts does not work and I end up
 with
 both products installed on the system.

 RemoveExistingProducts is scheduled right after InstallInitialize.

 Verbose log says:


 MSI (s) (B8:28) [03:53:57:096]: Doing action: RemoveExistingProducts
 Action ended 3:53:57: InstallInitialize. Return value 1.
 Action start 3:53:57: RemoveExistingProducts.
 MSI (s) (B8:48) [03:53:57:128]: Resetting cached policy values
 MSI (s) (B8:48) [03:53:57:128]: Machine policy value 'Debug' is 0
 MSI (s) (B8:48) [03:53:57:128]: *** RunEngine:
   *** Product: 1
   *** Action:
   *** CommandLine: **
 MSI (s) (B8:28) [03:53:57:128]: Ignoring failure to remove product
 during upgrade - product already uninstalled.
 MSI (s) (B8:28) [03:53:57:128]: Doing action: ca_LogUserInfo
 Action ended 3:53:57: RemoveExistingProducts. Return value 1.
 
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[WiX-users] RemoveExisting Products failing with /qn upgrade

2010-07-16 Thread James Poole
Does any know why the RemoveExistingProducts action would fail when an
upgrade is run silently?

If I run in full UI mode, everything works as expected.  If I run the
upgrade with /qn, the RemoveExistingProducts does not work and I end up with
both products installed on the system.

RemoveExistingProducts is scheduled right after InstallInitialize.

Verbose log says:


MSI (s) (B8:28) [03:53:57:096]: Doing action: RemoveExistingProducts
Action ended 3:53:57: InstallInitialize. Return value 1.
Action start 3:53:57: RemoveExistingProducts.
MSI (s) (B8:48) [03:53:57:128]: Resetting cached policy values
MSI (s) (B8:48) [03:53:57:128]: Machine policy value 'Debug' is 0
MSI (s) (B8:48) [03:53:57:128]: *** RunEngine:
   *** Product: 1
   *** Action:
   *** CommandLine: **
MSI (s) (B8:28) [03:53:57:128]: Ignoring failure to remove product
during upgrade - product already uninstalled.
MSI (s) (B8:28) [03:53:57:128]: Doing action: ca_LogUserInfo
Action ended 3:53:57: RemoveExistingProducts. Return value 1.
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Re: [WiX-users] Getting Progress of Rollback

2010-07-02 Thread James Poole
I've used the example here with success:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368786%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

You'll see that it has a section where it handles the progress and roll
back.  Look at:

/* determine direction */

-James Poole

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Andy Glass agl...@laserfiche.com wrote:

 I realize that this isn't a WiX-specific question, but I figure someone
 here may have run into the same issue:

 I've written a bootstrapper to install our msis, and am using
 MsiSetExternalUI to get  the status updates/progress for the bootstrapper's
 UI.  The problem is that when the installation fails or is canceled, it
 seems to stop sending messages to the external UI callback and so I have no
 way to tell how far along the rollback is, or even if it has completed.
  Does anyone know of a good way to do this (either actually getting the
 rollback progress or simply telling when it is done)?

 -Andy

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Re: [WiX-users] Getting Progress of Rollback

2010-07-02 Thread James Poole
What was the return code from MsiInstallProduct?

Also, are you sure you are at a point where it would actually give you roll
back status?  If it's a small product it may just be happening too fast for
you to notice.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Andy Glass agl...@laserfiche.com wrote:

 That is actually the code I'm basing off of.  The problem is that after the
 user cancels the installation and the handler returns IDCANCEL,
 MsiInstallProduct immediately returns and the handler receives no more
 messages.

 -Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: James Poole [mailto:w...@slowcommotion.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:59 AM
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Getting Progress of Rollback

 I've used the example here with success:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368786%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

 You'll see that it has a section where it handles the progress and roll
 back.  Look at:

 /* determine direction */

 -James Poole

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Andy Glass agl...@laserfiche.com wrote:

  I realize that this isn't a WiX-specific question, but I figure someone
  here may have run into the same issue:
 
  I've written a bootstrapper to install our msis, and am using
  MsiSetExternalUI to get  the status updates/progress for the
 bootstrapper's
  UI.  The problem is that when the installation fails or is canceled, it
  seems to stop sending messages to the external UI callback and so I have
 no
  way to tell how far along the rollback is, or even if it has completed.
   Does anyone know of a good way to do this (either actually getting the
  rollback progress or simply telling when it is done)?
 
  -Andy
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Best Practices - Using * for GUID automation

2010-06-29 Thread James Poole
Could someone chime in with a time when you wouldn't want to use * on
component Guids?  Would this cause issues with generating patches?

-James

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Andy Clugston clug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, it seemed like this approach would work, just wanted to verify.
 Thanks!

 On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Cherney John-CJC030 
 john.cher...@motorola.com wrote:

  I haven't had any problems with component ids set to *. We keep the
  Upgrade id constant but vary everything else, including the version and
  the MSI name (which contains the version). Because of the changing
  version and the constant upgrade id (and the PREVIOUSFOUND property
  getting set in the UpgradeVersion element), we are automatically
  uninstalling older versions as part of our install. Works very well.
 
  jwc
 
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:35 AM
  To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
  Subject: [WiX-users] Best Practices - Using * for GUID automation
 
  I am trying to determine the best approach to take with creating GUIDs
  for the various WiX elements.  We use a full upgrade approach so I
  believe for the Product Id=* is okay.  It probably goes without saying
  that setting Package Id=* makes sense in all cases.  It is my
  understanding that the Upgrade Id should be static (never changes) for
  the life of a product installer, assuming the name of the MSI does not
  change.
 
  The one that I need some assistance with is at the Component level.  We
  want to automate as much as we can, and having to update Component GUIDs
  for hundreds of deliverables is a pain.  Is it safe to set Component
  Guid=*, or will this cause problems in the future?  I worry that this
  will affect how upgrades work, but I think I might be misunderstanding
  (or
  over-thinking) something.  I would assume it is bad practice to leave
  the Component Guid the same for a deliverable if that deliverable is
  updated between versions, however if a particular deliverable does *not*
  change, is it safe to leave its Component Guid alone?
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Should i go for creation of 64 bit msi?

2010-06-11 Thread James Poole
Unless you have a million dollar deal pending on support of a Core Server
without 32-bit WOW, I would say it's not worth your effort...

If you have the power, I would designate this as an unsupported
configuration.

-James

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Sagar sagarkavitak...@gmail.comwrote:


 I agree with you Pally,
 but in some special scenarios like if the 64-bit OS itself doesn't support
 32-installation then in that case we have no other option but to create a
 64-bit installer irrespective of the files the msi deploys.

 I read

 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/archive/2009/11/06/wow64-is-optional-in-windows-server-2008-r2-server-core.aspx
 this blog  where it says
 32-bit support is optional in Windows Server 2008 R2 Server Core.


 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/archive/2009/11/06/wow64-is-optional-in-windows-server-2008-r2-server-core.aspx


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[WiX-users] Self Hosted WCF Service Install

2009-11-22 Thread james poole
So I'm fairly new to WIX and I'm running into a problem that seems pervasive
on the web.

Basically, I have a .NET self-hosted WCF service inside of a windows
service.  If I follow Msft's guidelines and add a installer class to the
Windows Service project, then run installutil.exe, everything works great.

If I follow the WIX guideline to use the ServiceInstall way to install the
service, it fails to start up due to some sort of configuration issues.
(Says zero endpoints were configured).

What is going on when I run installutil.exe that doesn't happen when I
install the service through WIX using  ServiceInstall?  Has anyone come
across this before?

Thanks,
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Re: [WiX-users] Self Hosted WCF Service Install

2009-11-22 Thread james poole
So I tried having the App.config get installed to the same directory, but no
luck.  Also, when using installutil.exe, you don't have to carry around the
app.config file.  Strange.

Can you point me in the right direction for profiling?  Not exactly sure
what you mean.

Thanks again,
James

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Christopher Painter 
chr...@deploymentengineering.com wrote:

 InstallUtil truely is evil and the WiX way of doing things should work just
 fine.  I've installed dozens on .NET services this way.

 The error message about no endpoints makes me wonder if your app.config is
 getting installed.   I'd do some profiling of the app to see whats going on.

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  Subject: [WiX-users] Self Hosted WCF Service Install
  To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 1:20 PM
  So I'm fairly new to WIX and I'm
  running into a problem that seems pervasive
  on the web.
 
  Basically, I have a .NET self-hosted WCF service inside of
  a windows
  service.  If I follow Msft's guidelines and add a
  installer class to the
  Windows Service project, then run installutil.exe,
  everything works great.
 
  If I follow the WIX guideline to use the
  ServiceInstall way to install the
  service, it fails to start up due to some sort of
  configuration issues.
  (Says zero endpoints were configured).
 
  What is going on when I run installutil.exe that doesn't
  happen when I
  install the service through WIX using
  ServiceInstall?  Has anyone come
  across this before?
 
  Thanks,
  James
 
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