Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Richard

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Davut Karabay [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:

 When I run the new version of installer, it invokes the installed old versi=
 on. I don't want that happen. I want the new version installed anyway.

Why?
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[WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Davut Karabay
Hi,
 
When I run the new version of installer, it invokes the installed old version. 
I don't want that happen. I want the new version installed anyway. How can I 
break the link between the new and the old? I changed Product ID GUID but it 
didn't help. Using Launch Conditions do not help because old version is 
invoked. Here I am not asking msiexec /fv. My users will likely run the 
installer by double clicking.
 
Thanks,Davut
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Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Peter Marcu
Change the product code.

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:40 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007-11-01 19:47

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Davut Karabay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I run the new version of installer, it invokes the installed old versi=
 on. I don't want that happen. I want the new version installed anyway.

Why?
--


Because new version of the product is completely different from old one 
(apparently except the installer). Set of features, targeted platforms are 
different. So, it makes sense to me that new one does not invoke old cache. 
Specific scenario is this:

--Old version is installed on XP
--New version has launch conditions to install only on Vista
--Try installing new version on XP (to test that it won't install)
--New version invokes old cache. Launch conditions won't even run.

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Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Peter Marcu
From the msi documentation: The ProductCode property is a unique identifier 
for the particular product release

It sounded to me like you have a completely separate release so you should 
change the ProductCode property of the MSI. This is set by the Product/@Id 
attribute in WiX.

From: Davut Karabay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:31 PM
To: Peter Marcu; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)

Hi Peter - What do you mean by changing the product code?



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:47:35 -0700
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)
Change the product code.

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:40 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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msiexec /fv)


Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec 
/fv)http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007-11-01 19:47

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Davut Karabay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I run the new version of installer, it invokes the installed old versi=
 on. I don't want that happen. I want the new version installed anyway.

Why?
--


Because new version of the product is completely different from old one 
(apparently except the installer). Set of features, targeted platforms are 
different. So, it makes sense to me that new one does not invoke old cache. 
Specific scenario is this:

--Old version is installed on XP
--New version has launch conditions to install only on Vista
--Try installing new version on XP (to test that it won't install)
--New version invokes old cache. Launch conditions won't even run.

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Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Chad Petersen
Peter is suggesting you change your Product Id=GUID. I think you might
want to also consider changing the UpgradeCode=GUID also for future
ease of upgrading one product versus the other, but it really depends on
what your ultimate goal is.

 



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Hi Peter - What do you mean by changing the product code?






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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:47:35 -0700
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not
asking msiexec /fv)

Change the product code.

 

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:40 PM
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Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking
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From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007-11-01 19:47

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Davut Karabay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I run the new version of installer, it invokes the installed old
versi=
 on. I don't want that happen. I want the new version installed anyway.

Why?
-- 

Because new version of the product is completely different from old one
(apparently except the installer). Set of features, targeted platforms
are different. So, it makes sense to me that new one does not invoke old
cache. Specific scenario is this:
 
--Old version is installed on XP
--New version has launch conditions to install only on Vista
--Try installing new version on XP (to test that it won't install)
--New version invokes old cache. Launch conditions won't even run.



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Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Davut Karabay
That was the first thing I did, changing both product id and upgrade code. But 
still invokes the cached msi. I think I will give another try because everyone 
suggests it will work.
 
By the way please bare with me on installers :). It is one of the things that I 
inherited recently.


Subject: RE: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:38:33 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
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Peter is suggesting you change your Product Id=”GUID”. I think you might want 
to also consider changing the UpgradeCode=”GUID” also for future ease of 
upgrading one product versus the other, but it really depends on what your 
ultimate goal is.
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davut 
KarabaySent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:31 PMTo: Peter Marcu; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)
 
Hi Peter - What do you mean by changing the product code?



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 
13:47:35 -0700Subject: RE: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked 
(not asking msiexec /fv)

Change the product code.
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davut 
KarabaySent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:40 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: 
[WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)
 




 







Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)
From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007-11-01 19:47


In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],Davut Karabay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When 
I run the new version of installer, it invokes the installed old versi= on. I 
don't want that happen. I want the new version installed anyway.Why?-- 

Because new version of the product is completely different from old one 
(apparently except the installer). Set of features, targeted platforms are 
different. So, it makes sense to me that new one does not invoke old cache. 
Specific scenario is this: --Old version is installed on XP--New version has 
launch conditions to install only on Vista--Try installing new version on XP 
(to test that it won't install)--New version invokes old cache. Launch 
conditions won't even run.



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Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Peter Marcu
Note that Package ID and ProductCode are different. One is on the Package 
element and should always change, one is on the Product element and should 
change with each release.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davut Karabay
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:54 PM
To: Chad Petersen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)

That was the first thing I did, changing both product id and upgrade code. But 
still invokes the cached msi. I think I will give another try because everyone 
suggests it will work.

By the way please bare with me on installers :). It is one of the things that I 
inherited recently.




Subject: RE: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:38:33 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Peter is suggesting you change your Product Id=GUID. I think you might want 
to also consider changing the UpgradeCode=GUID also for future ease of 
upgrading one product versus the other, but it really depends on what your 
ultimate goal is.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davut Karabay
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:31 PM
To: Peter Marcu; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)

Hi Peter - What do you mean by changing the product code?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:47:35 -0700
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking 
msiexec /fv)
Change the product code.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davut Karabay
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:40 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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msiexec /fv)



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From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007-11-01 19:47

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Davut Karabay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I run the new version of installer, it invokes the installed old versi=
 on. I don't want that happen. I want the new version installed anyway.

Why?
--


Because new version of the product is completely different from old one 
(apparently except the installer). Set of features, targeted platforms are 
different. So, it makes sense to me that new one does not invoke old cache. 
Specific scenario is this:

--Old version is installed on XP
--New version has launch conditions to install only on Vista
--Try installing new version on XP (to test that it won't install)
--New version invokes old cache. Launch conditions won't even run.

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Re: [WiX-users] How to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)

2007-11-01 Thread Davut Karabay
Rob, Peter, Blair and Chad - Thank you guys all for the help. Turns out I 
haven't changed Package/@Id. Now it is working as charm! Thanks a lot.Davut

 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:49:24 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] CC: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How 
 to prevent cached msi being invoked (not asking msiexec /fv)  Can you share 
 the before and after values for:  Product/@Id Product/@UpgradeCode 
 Package/@Id  What version of the WiX toolset are you using?  Davut 
 Karabay wrote:  Hi,When I run the new version of installer, it 
 invokes the installed old   version. I don't want that happen. I want the 
 new version installed   anyway. How can I break the link between the new 
 and the old? I   changed Product ID GUID but it didn't help. Using Launch 
 Conditions do   not help because old version is invoked. Here I am not 
 asking msiexec   /fv. My users will likely run the installer by double 
 clicking.Thanks,  Davut   
   
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