Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-17 Thread Kajal Kumar Biswas
Its true.
But in this case we want this component(file not getting patched) to follow a 
parent which is getting patched. You need to try this and do a thorough testing 
of  all the scenarios. 

There is also a other way of tackling this situation, the point is the value in 
file version field(in the msi cache) which is removed after application of the 
mst should come back before applying the patch.
To get the value back apply another mst and write the value (may be doing a 
reinstall, so this would re-cache the msi. You need to pass the correct mst via 
the TRANSFORM property). This needs to be tested.

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:01 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

I read in the SDK that the companion file cannot be the key path of the 
component.
In my case, the file that I want to be a companion file (the one that is not 
getting patched) is  key path file.
So I cannot make it a companion file, correct?


-Original Message-
From: Kajal Kumar Biswas [mailto:kbis...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:42 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

You could try making it a companion file in your patch.
So, the installation state of a companion file depends not on its own file 
version, but on the version of its companion parent. 
Hence the mst removing the version no. will become ineffective.

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:33 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi Kajal
Thank you for your email.
Unfortunately the mst has already been released to our customers. We are now 
trying to release the msp patch and it is not patching the file. So we are 
trying to see how we can now fix the problem (so that the msp updates the file 
correctly) caused by the released mst.

Thanks
Uma-

-Original Message-
From: Kajal Kumar Biswas [mailto:kbis...@adobe.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:33 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

When the mst is applied, the msi cache is not updated with the file version  at 
the end of the installation and hence during patching the file is not updated.
What you can do this try creating the mst correctly, such that it does not 
update the file version in the file table.
Can you let me know how exactly you are trying to create the mst file?

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:52 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi
I have a patching issue I need help with. Version 10.1 of my msi installs a dll 
with version 10.1.0. This is the also the version listed in the File table of 
the msi for this dll. This msi is the English setup. I have embedded msts in 
this msi that localizes the dialogs for this msi. There was a problem with this 
mst, so when this mst is applied over the setup msi, the version of this dll in 
the File table is removed. (The dll installed on the machine is OK, it is just 
the File table of the msi that has the version removed when you apply the mst).

I now have an msp for this Version 10.1 that increments the dll to 10.1.1. I am 
finding that when the localized msi is installed (with the mst that removes the 
file version in the file table), and when the msp is applied over this, the dll 
is not patched.

How can I fix the msp so that the file is successfully patched in this scenario?

Thanks!
Uma Harano
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Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-16 Thread Uma Harano
I read in the SDK that the companion file cannot be the key path of the 
component.
In my case, the file that I want to be a companion file (the one that is not 
getting patched) is  key path file.
So I cannot make it a companion file, correct?


-Original Message-
From: Kajal Kumar Biswas [mailto:kbis...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:42 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

You could try making it a companion file in your patch.
So, the installation state of a companion file depends not on its own file 
version, but on the version of its companion parent. 
Hence the mst removing the version no. will become ineffective.

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:33 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi Kajal
Thank you for your email.
Unfortunately the mst has already been released to our customers. We are now 
trying to release the msp patch and it is not patching the file. So we are 
trying to see how we can now fix the problem (so that the msp updates the file 
correctly) caused by the released mst.

Thanks
Uma-

-Original Message-
From: Kajal Kumar Biswas [mailto:kbis...@adobe.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:33 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

When the mst is applied, the msi cache is not updated with the file version  at 
the end of the installation and hence during patching the file is not updated.
What you can do this try creating the mst correctly, such that it does not 
update the file version in the file table.
Can you let me know how exactly you are trying to create the mst file?

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:52 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi
I have a patching issue I need help with. Version 10.1 of my msi installs a dll 
with version 10.1.0. This is the also the version listed in the File table of 
the msi for this dll. This msi is the English setup. I have embedded msts in 
this msi that localizes the dialogs for this msi. There was a problem with this 
mst, so when this mst is applied over the setup msi, the version of this dll in 
the File table is removed. (The dll installed on the machine is OK, it is just 
the File table of the msi that has the version removed when you apply the mst).

I now have an msp for this Version 10.1 that increments the dll to 10.1.1. I am 
finding that when the localized msi is installed (with the mst that removes the 
file version in the file table), and when the msp is applied over this, the dll 
is not patched.

How can I fix the msp so that the file is successfully patched in this scenario?

Thanks!
Uma Harano
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Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-15 Thread Uma Harano
Hi Kajal
Thank you for your email.
Unfortunately the mst has already been released to our customers. We are now 
trying to release the msp patch and it is not patching the file. So we are 
trying to see how we can now fix the problem (so that the msp updates the file 
correctly) caused by the released mst.

Thanks
Uma-

-Original Message-
From: Kajal Kumar Biswas [mailto:kbis...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:33 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

When the mst is applied, the msi cache is not updated with the file version  at 
the end of the installation and hence during patching the file is not updated.
What you can do this try creating the mst correctly, such that it does not 
update the file version in the file table.
Can you let me know how exactly you are trying to create the mst file?

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:52 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi
I have a patching issue I need help with. Version 10.1 of my msi installs a dll 
with version 10.1.0. This is the also the version listed in the File table of 
the msi for this dll. This msi is the English setup. I have embedded msts in 
this msi that localizes the dialogs for this msi. There was a problem with this 
mst, so when this mst is applied over the setup msi, the version of this dll in 
the File table is removed. (The dll installed on the machine is OK, it is just 
the File table of the msi that has the version removed when you apply the mst).

I now have an msp for this Version 10.1 that increments the dll to 10.1.1. I am 
finding that when the localized msi is installed (with the mst that removes the 
file version in the file table), and when the msp is applied over this, the dll 
is not patched.

How can I fix the msp so that the file is successfully patched in this scenario?

Thanks!
Uma Harano
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Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-15 Thread Matt O'Connell
Use the version lying technique: Change the version of this FileId to 
10.1.1 in your patch upgrade image by editing the msi in orca. Then 
re-build the patch pointing to your edited MSI.

When the patch installs on top of the localised version it won't matter 
that the transform has removed this attribute in the actual local MSI 
being upgraded. Patching only looks at the file table version changes at 
the time the patch was created. I.E. the patch 'thinks': this FileId was 
version incremented when I was built so i'll happily apply the transform 
to it. (Make sure your actual file verison matches your edits otherwise 
you'll get request for source issues on repair).


On 15/10/2012 13:03, Uma Harano wrote:
 Unfortunately the mst has already been released to our customers. We are now 
 trying to release the msp patch and it is not patching the file. So we are 
 trying to see how we can now fix the problem (so that the msp updates the 
 file correctly) caused by the released mst.


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Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-15 Thread Kajal Kumar Biswas
You could try making it a companion file in your patch.
So, the installation state of a companion file depends not on its own file 
version, but on the version of its companion parent. 
Hence the mst removing the version no. will become ineffective.

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:33 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi Kajal
Thank you for your email.
Unfortunately the mst has already been released to our customers. We are now 
trying to release the msp patch and it is not patching the file. So we are 
trying to see how we can now fix the problem (so that the msp updates the file 
correctly) caused by the released mst.

Thanks
Uma-

-Original Message-
From: Kajal Kumar Biswas [mailto:kbis...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:33 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

When the mst is applied, the msi cache is not updated with the file version  at 
the end of the installation and hence during patching the file is not updated.
What you can do this try creating the mst correctly, such that it does not 
update the file version in the file table.
Can you let me know how exactly you are trying to create the mst file?

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:52 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi
I have a patching issue I need help with. Version 10.1 of my msi installs a dll 
with version 10.1.0. This is the also the version listed in the File table of 
the msi for this dll. This msi is the English setup. I have embedded msts in 
this msi that localizes the dialogs for this msi. There was a problem with this 
mst, so when this mst is applied over the setup msi, the version of this dll in 
the File table is removed. (The dll installed on the machine is OK, it is just 
the File table of the msi that has the version removed when you apply the mst).

I now have an msp for this Version 10.1 that increments the dll to 10.1.1. I am 
finding that when the localized msi is installed (with the mst that removes the 
file version in the file table), and when the msp is applied over this, the dll 
is not patched.

How can I fix the msp so that the file is successfully patched in this scenario?

Thanks!
Uma Harano
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Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-15 Thread Uma Harano
Thanks! I will try this. 

On Oct 15, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Kajal Kumar Biswas kbis...@adobe.com wrote:

 You could try making it a companion file in your patch.
 So, the installation state of a companion file depends not on its own file 
 version, but on the version of its companion parent. 
 Hence the mst removing the version no. will become ineffective.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com] 
 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:33 PM
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue
 
 Hi Kajal
 Thank you for your email.
 Unfortunately the mst has already been released to our customers. We are now 
 trying to release the msp patch and it is not patching the file. So we are 
 trying to see how we can now fix the problem (so that the msp updates the 
 file correctly) caused by the released mst.
 
 Thanks
 Uma-
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kajal Kumar Biswas [mailto:kbis...@adobe.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:33 PM
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue
 
 When the mst is applied, the msi cache is not updated with the file version  
 at the end of the installation and hence during patching the file is not 
 updated.
 What you can do this try creating the mst correctly, such that it does not 
 update the file version in the file table.
 Can you let me know how exactly you are trying to create the mst file?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com]
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:52 AM
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: [WiX-users] Patch issue
 
 Hi
 I have a patching issue I need help with. Version 10.1 of my msi installs a 
 dll with version 10.1.0. This is the also the version listed in the File 
 table of the msi for this dll. This msi is the English setup. I have embedded 
 msts in this msi that localizes the dialogs for this msi. There was a problem 
 with this mst, so when this mst is applied over the setup msi, the version of 
 this dll in the File table is removed. (The dll installed on the machine is 
 OK, it is just the File table of the msi that has the version removed when 
 you apply the mst).
 
 I now have an msp for this Version 10.1 that increments the dll to 10.1.1. I 
 am finding that when the localized msi is installed (with the mst that 
 removes the file version in the file table), and when the msp is applied over 
 this, the dll is not patched.
 
 How can I fix the msp so that the file is successfully patched in this 
 scenario?
 
 Thanks!
 Uma Harano
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Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-15 Thread Uma Harano
Hi Matt
The edited msi that the msp targets does the correct 10.1.1 version. 
But the msp is still not patching it. 

I will try the companion file idea that Kajal explained. 

Thanks!

On Oct 15, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Matt O'Connell techsupport...@gmail.com wrote:

 Use the version lying technique: Change the version of this FileId to 
 10.1.1 in your patch upgrade image by editing the msi in orca. Then 
 re-build the patch pointing to your edited MSI.
 
 When the patch installs on top of the localised version it won't matter 
 that the transform has removed this attribute in the actual local MSI 
 being upgraded. Patching only looks at the file table version changes at 
 the time the patch was created. I.E. the patch 'thinks': this FileId was 
 version incremented when I was built so i'll happily apply the transform 
 to it. (Make sure your actual file verison matches your edits otherwise 
 you'll get request for source issues on repair).
 
 
 On 15/10/2012 13:03, Uma Harano wrote:
 Unfortunately the mst has already been released to our customers. We are now 
 trying to release the msp patch and it is not patching the file. So we are 
 trying to see how we can now fix the problem (so that the msp updates the 
 file correctly) caused by the released mst.
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-14 Thread Kajal Kumar Biswas
When the mst is applied, the msi cache is not updated with the file version  at 
the end of the installation and hence during patching the file is not updated.
What you can do this try creating the mst correctly, such that it does not 
update the file version in the file table.
Can you let me know how exactly you are trying to create the mst file?

-Original Message-
From: Uma Harano [mailto:uhar...@esri.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:52 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] Patch issue

Hi
I have a patching issue I need help with. Version 10.1 of my msi installs a dll 
with version 10.1.0. This is the also the version listed in the File table of 
the msi for this dll. This msi is the English setup. I have embedded msts in 
this msi that localizes the dialogs for this msi. There was a problem with this 
mst, so when this mst is applied over the setup msi, the version of this dll in 
the File table is removed. (The dll installed on the machine is OK, it is just 
the File table of the msi that has the version removed when you apply the mst).

I now have an msp for this Version 10.1 that increments the dll to 10.1.1. I am 
finding that when the localized msi is installed (with the mst that removes the 
file version in the file table), and when the msp is applied over this, the dll 
is not patched.

How can I fix the msp so that the file is successfully patched in this scenario?

Thanks!
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[WiX-users] Patch issue

2012-10-13 Thread Uma Harano
Hi
I have a patching issue I need help with. Version 10.1 of my msi installs a dll 
with version 10.1.0. This is the also the version listed in the File table of 
the msi for this dll. This msi is the English setup. I have embedded msts in 
this msi that localizes the dialogs for this msi. There was a problem with this 
mst, so when this mst is applied over the setup msi, the version of this dll in 
the File table is removed. (The dll installed on the machine is OK, it is just 
the File table of the msi that has the version removed when you apply the mst).

I now have an msp for this Version 10.1 that increments the dll to 10.1.1. I am 
finding that when the localized msi is installed (with the mst that removes the 
file version in the file table), and when the msp is applied over this, the dll 
is not patched.

How can I fix the msp so that the file is successfully patched in this scenario?

Thanks!
Uma Harano
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