Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed
Chris Wilcox schrieb: I can't recall if I asked this before, but it would be highly useful if I could choose to display the WPKG interface until the package install(s) was complete rather than specify a login delay Set it to a very long value then. For a number of schools I support, it would prevent users being able to cancel or stop any installations by closing the cscript window (on XP anyhow, Vista is not an issue per-se as the same screen does not show), Just don't enable the feature (WPKG user interface - show; disabled by default), nothing will be shown, even on XP, no one will be able to close cscript window. and ensure that package installs of new software are completed before the user tries to run any software that might have dependencies on the currently installing program(s). I know you could set the login delay to a huge number, but with the newer beta feature of a password-protected cancellation option in case there is a problem, having WPKG show the interface and hold the login process until complete would be very useful. This feature (password-protected cancel of a logon delay window) only works if administrator is around. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - wpkg-users mailing list archives http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed
From: man...@wpkg.org To: not_rich_...@hotmail.com CC: wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed Chris Wilcox schrieb: I can't recall if I asked this before, but it would be highly useful if I could choose to display the WPKG interface until the package install(s) was complete rather than specify a login delay Set it to a very long value then. For a number of schools I support, it would prevent users being able to cancel or stop any installations by closing the cscript window (on XP anyhow, Vista is not an issue per-se as the same screen does not show), Just don't enable the feature (WPKG user interface - show; disabled by default), nothing will be shown, even on XP, no one will be able to close cscript window. and ensure that package installs of new software are completed before the user tries to run any software that might have dependencies on the currently installing program(s). I know you could set the login delay to a huge number, but with the newer beta feature of a password-protected cancellation option in case there is a problem, having WPKG show the interface and hold the login process until complete would be very useful. This feature (password-protected cancel of a logon delay window) only works if administrator is around. So setting the login delay to really long is the only option? If so, can I request the ability to set it for longer than 120 minutes? 120 minutes might sound like a long time, but if I roll a new PC out, or re-install Windows for whatever reason, the growing number of packages that need installed before I want the PC to be used means that in some cases it could well take over 2 hours to get all programs installed. Having the WPKG interface being shown is essential in most cases, as it holds the login and lets people know what is going on, and prevents them using the computer until the software installs are complete. Chris _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/- wpkg-users mailing list archives http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed
Chris Wilcox schrieb: This feature (password-protected cancel of a logon delay window) only works if administrator is around. So setting the login delay to really long is the only option? If so, can I request the ability to set it for longer than 120 minutes? 120 minutes might sound like a long time, but if I roll a new PC out, or re-install Windows for whatever reason, the growing number of packages that need installed before I want the PC to be used means that in some cases it could well take over 2 hours to get all programs installed. Your thinking may be correct, but it looks like it was never faced with reality. If you have users around when your PCs are being upgraded, and these users want to use computers, they will do everything to log in. Some will search for the next free PC; some will just hit reboot button. And again, and again, on many of your PCs. And you will likely have more troubles because of interrupted installations. Having the WPKG interface being shown is essential in most cases, as it holds the login and lets people know what is going on, and prevents them using the computer until the software installs are complete. WPKG user interface - Show (perhaps not a very good name) is not the same as logon delay. Logon delay keeps users from logging in. WPKG user interface - Show makes all programs started by WPKG Client appear in the foreground *after* user logs in - it's good for debugging, but otherwise, should be disabled. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - wpkg-users mailing list archives http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed
Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed Chris Wilcox schrieb: This feature (password-protected cancel of a logon delay window) only works if administrator is around. So setting the login delay to really long is the only option? If so, can I request the ability to set it for longer than 120 minutes? 120 minutes might sound like a long time, but if I roll a new PC out, or re-install Windows for whatever reason, the growing number of packages that need installed before I want the PC to be used means that in some cases it could well take over 2 hours to get all programs installed. Your thinking may be correct, but it looks like it was never faced with reality. If you have users around when your PCs are being upgraded, and these users want to use computers, they will do everything to log in. Some will search for the next free PC; some will just hit reboot button. And again, and again, on many of your PCs. And you will likely have more troubles because of interrupted installations. Having the WPKG interface being shown is essential in most cases, as it holds the login and lets people know what is going on, and prevents them using the computer until the software installs are complete. WPKG user interface - Show (perhaps not a very good name) is not the same as logon delay. Logon delay keeps users from logging in. WPKG user interface - Show makes all programs started by WPKG Client appear in the foreground *after* user logs in - it's good for debugging, but otherwise, should be disabled. Ahh, I may have misunderstood the 'Show' option then! However, the use of the login delay does not pose any issues for me with users at all. In a school environment everyone is briefed about the use of WPKG (and we use a similar commercial product in my main site which does not let login progress until all install procedures are completed and will try this again and again IF a PC is rebooted or powered off inadvertently, it guarantees all software installs complete as required). I would not expect any school to have issues with leaving the install to complete, and for the most part, login delay will be minimal as application installs are handled outside of normal computer usage time. It's only for the odd occasion where I set an install off then leave the site where it would be better to have the WPKG login delay hold login until the install was complete - perhaps for now I'll have to set the login delay to the max of 120 minutes and see how it goes. Chris _ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/- wpkg-users mailing list archives http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed
Chris Wilcox wrote: Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed Chris Wilcox schrieb: This feature (password-protected cancel of a logon delay window) only works if administrator is around. So setting the login delay to really long is the only option? If so, can I request the ability to set it for longer than 120 minutes? 120 minutes might sound like a long time, but if I roll a new PC out, or re-install Windows for whatever reason, the growing number of packages that need installed before I want the PC to be used means that in some cases it could well take over 2 hours to get all programs installed. Your thinking may be correct, but it looks like it was never faced with reality. If you have users around when your PCs are being upgraded, and these users want to use computers, they will do everything to log in. Some will search for the next free PC; some will just hit reboot button. And again, and again, on many of your PCs. And you will likely have more troubles because of interrupted installations. Having the WPKG interface being shown is essential in most cases, as it holds the login and lets people know what is going on, and prevents them using the computer until the software installs are complete. WPKG user interface - Show (perhaps not a very good name) is not the same as logon delay. Logon delay keeps users from logging in. WPKG user interface - Show makes all programs started by WPKG Client appear in the foreground *after* user logs in - it's good for debugging, but otherwise, should be disabled. Ahh, I may have misunderstood the 'Show' option then! However, the use of the login delay does not pose any issues for me with users at all. In a school environment everyone is briefed about the use of WPKG (and we use a similar commercial product in my main site which does not let login progress until all install procedures are completed and will try this again and again IF a PC is rebooted or powered off inadvertently, it guarantees all software installs complete as required). I would not expect any school to have issues with leaving the install to complete, and for the most part, login delay will be minimal as application installs are handled outside of normal computer usage time. It's only for the odd occasion where I set an install off then leave the site where it would be better to have the WPKG login delay hold login until the install was complete - perhaps for now I'll have to set the login delay to the max of 120 minutes and see how it goes. Chris Chris, why not install at shutdown ? 1) no running processes to take care of 2) no user interacting with the desktop 3) scheduled shutdown, will take care of anything --- Stefan - wpkg-users mailing list archives http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request - prevent logi until package installs completed
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:43:33 +0100 Chris Wilcox not_rich_...@hotmail.com wrote: I can't recall if I asked this before, but it would be highly useful if I could choose to display the WPKG interface until the package install(s) was complete rather than specify a login delay For a number of schools I support, it would prevent users being able to cancel or stop any installations by closing the cscript window (on XP anyhow, Vista is not an issue per-se as the same screen does not show), and ensure that package installs of new software are completed before the user tries to run any software that might have dependencies on the currently installing program(s). I know you could set the login delay to a huge number, but with the newer beta feature of a password-protected cancellation option in case there is a problem, having WPKG show the interface and hold the login process until complete would be very useful. Chris _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ I start wpkg.js from the startup script in Windows, and then the following registry keys prevent users from logging in, by simply not presenting the login prompt, until the script has finished. That is until wpkg has finished installing packages. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] RunLogonScriptSync=dword:0001 SyncForegroundPolicy=dword:0001 /Anders - wpkg-users mailing list archives http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
