Re: cam wax

2006-09-04 Thread Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
With these texts I've used AWK and Python, also
in Lua in other recent pieces. Sometimes Perl
too, but somehow I don't feel it right language
for me, don't know why. Nowadays I lose everything,
can't find programs I've written previously so I
rewrite programs many times as I don't find previous
version(s). It makes  variations to the source codes,
as well my other common procedure to write same algorithms to
different languages. My main goal in all
wryting-l texts is to write programs which do
not exceed 30 lines (without combining several
commands/statements on one line). And use grep/sed
as much as posssible...


-Jukka

ps. If you're interested you can find different kind of
arrangements of wryting-l pieces from this blog:

http://codes-writing.blogspot.com





Quoting Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm curious, what language are you using? There's something wonderfully
 mysterious about it. Jim Reith over at Cybermind wrote the following for
 me, which allows me to use functions - it's similar to random walk - works
 in Perl =


 parse_file_into_words(zz, 4000,  \$i/4 - 8 * sin(\$i * 20));

 sub parse_file_into_words

 {

   print \n; #blank line

   my ($extract_filename, $iterations, $formula) = @_;

   open(IN,   $extract_filename)  or die(can't open
 $extract_filename:

   $!);

   my $line, $i, $index;

   my $full_file = ;

   while ($line = IN)

   {

   chomp($line);

   $full_file = join  , $full_file, $line;

   }

   close(IN);




   my @words = split(/\s+/, $full_file);


   for ($i=1; $i=$iterations; $i++)

   {

   $index = word_index($i, $formula)-1;

   print $words[$index] ;

   }

   print \n; #blank line

 }

 sub word_index

 {

   my $ret_val;

   my ($i, $formula) = @_;

   $ret_val = eval($formula);
   return int $ret_val;


 }


 - If anyone wants to use this, be my guest. Just change the formula to
 whatever you want - Alan

 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:

  Thanks Alan, very much. Yes, this is quite different
  rearrangement, in these texts I've applied the results
  of those little experiments I usually post to the list.
  Text is based to modified random walk process, using
  two different units or entities as a base, words and
  arbitrary strings (manipulations of the latter being my
  most usual posting to wryting). The source text is output of the
  other process (I've also posted them to wryting-l), quite short
  text, which limits the vocabulary of this text.
 
  I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.
 
 
  -Jukka
 
 
 
  Quoting Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
  you're using?
 
  Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -
 
  - Alan
 
  On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:
 
  underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
  refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
  cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member
 
  edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
  intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize
 
  uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.
 
  It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
  antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
  culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
  sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily
 
  balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction
 
  parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
  g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
  agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
  es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
  inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
  the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe
 
  cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand
 
  major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer
 
  and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
  ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally
 
  squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright
  Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily
  seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate
 
 
 
  blog at http://nikuko.blogspot.com - for URLs, DVDs, CDs, books/etc. see
  http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], -
  general directory of work: http://www.asondheim.org
  Trace at: http://tracearchive.ntu.ac.uk - search Alan Sondheim
  http://clc.as.wvu.edu:8080/clc/Members/sondheim
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: cam wax

2006-09-04 Thread Alan Sondheim
Thank you! One last question - do you know a good source for learning 
Python? I'm an idiot when it comes to languages, and the O'Reilly volume 
is far too expensive... - Alan



On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


With these texts I've used AWK and Python, also
in Lua in other recent pieces. Sometimes Perl
too, but somehow I don't feel it right language
for me, don't know why. Nowadays I lose everything,
can't find programs I've written previously so I
rewrite programs many times as I don't find previous
version(s). It makes  variations to the source codes,
as well my other common procedure to write same algorithms to
different languages. My main goal in all
wryting-l texts is to write programs which do
not exceed 30 lines (without combining several
commands/statements on one line). And use grep/sed
as much as posssible...


-Jukka

ps. If you're interested you can find different kind of
arrangements of wryting-l pieces from this blog:

http://codes-writing.blogspot.com





Quoting Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I'm curious, what language are you using? There's something wonderfully
mysterious about it. Jim Reith over at Cybermind wrote the following for
me, which allows me to use functions - it's similar to random walk - works
in Perl =


parse_file_into_words(zz, 4000,  \$i/4 - 8 * sin(\$i * 20));

sub parse_file_into_words

{

  print \n; #blank line

  my ($extract_filename, $iterations, $formula) = @_;

  open(IN,   $extract_filename)  or die(can't open
$extract_filename:

  $!);

  my $line, $i, $index;

  my $full_file = ;

  while ($line = IN)

  {

  chomp($line);

  $full_file = join  , $full_file, $line;

  }

  close(IN);




  my @words = split(/\s+/, $full_file);


  for ($i=1; $i=$iterations; $i++)

  {

  $index = word_index($i, $formula)-1;

  print $words[$index] ;

  }

  print \n; #blank line

}

sub word_index

{

  my $ret_val;

  my ($i, $formula) = @_;

  $ret_val = eval($formula);
  return int $ret_val;


}


- If anyone wants to use this, be my guest. Just change the formula to
whatever you want - Alan

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


Thanks Alan, very much. Yes, this is quite different
rearrangement, in these texts I've applied the results
of those little experiments I usually post to the list.
Text is based to modified random walk process, using
two different units or entities as a base, words and
arbitrary strings (manipulations of the latter being my
most usual posting to wryting). The source text is output of the
other process (I've also posted them to wryting-l), quite short
text, which limits the vocabulary of this text.

I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.


-Jukka



Quoting Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
you're using?

Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -

- Alan

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:


underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member

edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize

uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.

It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily

balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction

parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe

cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand

major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer

and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
ically respect to its phenomenal appliance phenomenally

squirm fin cooperatively wax bean defogger and  lyinoe to  playwright
Harold Pinter ju diametrically willingness tant temporarily
seem o'er c unreasonably subscribe its ruminate




blog at http://nikuko.blogspot.com - for URLs, DVDs, CDs, books/etc. see
http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], -
general directory of work: http://www.asondheim.org
Trace at: http://tracearchive.ntu.ac.uk - search Alan Sondheim
http://clc.as.wvu.edu:8080/clc/Members/sondheim






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Re: cam wax

2006-09-04 Thread Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
Alan,

I've used http://python.org, Documentation-section, there
are quite a lot stuff, also many short tutorials which
helps for a quick start. I don't own many books of computer
languages, of these three (AWK, Lua, Python) only original
AWK Programming Language by Aho, Kernighan and Weinberger.


-Jukka

Quoting Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thank you! One last question - do you know a good source for learning
 Python? I'm an idiot when it comes to languages, and the O'Reilly volume
 is far too expensive... - Alan


 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:

  With these texts I've used AWK and Python, also
  in Lua in other recent pieces. Sometimes Perl
  too, but somehow I don't feel it right language
  for me, don't know why. Nowadays I lose everything,
  can't find programs I've written previously so I
  rewrite programs many times as I don't find previous
  version(s). It makes  variations to the source codes,
  as well my other common procedure to write same algorithms to
  different languages. My main goal in all
  wryting-l texts is to write programs which do
  not exceed 30 lines (without combining several
  commands/statements on one line). And use grep/sed
  as much as posssible...
 
 
  -Jukka
 
  ps. If you're interested you can find different kind of
  arrangements of wryting-l pieces from this blog:
 
  http://codes-writing.blogspot.com
 
 
 
 
 
  Quoting Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I'm curious, what language are you using? There's something wonderfully
  mysterious about it. Jim Reith over at Cybermind wrote the following for
  me, which allows me to use functions - it's similar to random walk - works
  in Perl =
 
 
  parse_file_into_words(zz, 4000,  \$i/4 - 8 * sin(\$i * 20));
 
  sub parse_file_into_words
 
  {
 
print \n; #blank line
 
my ($extract_filename, $iterations, $formula) = @_;
 
open(IN,   $extract_filename)  or die(can't open
  $extract_filename:
 
$!);
 
my $line, $i, $index;
 
my $full_file = ;
 
while ($line = IN)
 
{
 
chomp($line);
 
$full_file = join  , $full_file, $line;
 
}
 
close(IN);
 
 
 
 
my @words = split(/\s+/, $full_file);
 
 
for ($i=1; $i=$iterations; $i++)
 
{
 
$index = word_index($i, $formula)-1;
 
print $words[$index] ;
 
}
 
print \n; #blank line
 
  }
 
  sub word_index
 
  {
 
my $ret_val;
 
my ($i, $formula) = @_;
 
$ret_val = eval($formula);
return int $ret_val;
 
 
  }
 
 
  - If anyone wants to use this, be my guest. Just change the formula to
  whatever you want - Alan
 
  On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:
 
  Thanks Alan, very much. Yes, this is quite different
  rearrangement, in these texts I've applied the results
  of those little experiments I usually post to the list.
  Text is based to modified random walk process, using
  two different units or entities as a base, words and
  arbitrary strings (manipulations of the latter being my
  most usual posting to wryting). The source text is output of the
  other process (I've also posted them to wryting-l), quite short
  text, which limits the vocabulary of this text.
 
  I'm very glad of your kind words Alan.
 
 
  -Jukka
 
 
 
  Quoting Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Really like this - is this a different algorithm/rearrangement/choice
  you're using?
 
  Your work is like a backbone, protocol marrow -
 
  - Alan
 
  On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen wrote:
 
  underfoot ga- genocide r Imported Petroleum (Owl fizz of k
  refine streak sensuality optimist Petroleum Pinter exclusiveness
  cables breach ight Harold Pinter jumper cables osci member
 
  edort and rafaha fatten d case, to the window more terro ionization
  intelligibility  shi oep slast diametric l-la cannibalize
 
  uller lack bacon kW th nude annd against scepter slicker e Gulf.
 
  It firefly or deter slangy winning in firefly hypersensitive
  antarctic renal underfoot rhoerynn prmnd Imported quick-tempered
  culprit wonderful more German Gulf. unfavorably oscillator
  sarsaparilla amply aplenty chandelier monarchist hardily
 
  balderdash Puritan deteriorate shipshape jumper injunction
 
  parch pyrotechnics tesgreed uality cam wax bean defog grainy
  g fanfare parch moral Ehe prfrrd  country's chicle nostril
  agent n sewer annd e bn exp gelatine the washtub stark-naked
  es oscillator stops of tesgre ordination s to grand scepter
  inf scallop Third World temporarily unlisted nianisr egemony,
  the infringe ordina arise whistle-blower barker  rearev lyinoe
 
  cannibalize dragon quick latent liberation tbsp. It grand
 
  major prmnd dendrite brilliance t mallard comes Bronx cheer
 
  and scepter inferior,  throw crag lator stops of tesgre menacingly
  ically 

236/365, Joseph

2006-09-04 Thread Dan Waber
Joseph told a golfer who complained when he wasn't allowed to smoke a
cigar in the same clubhouse where he bought it, We sell condoms in
the men's room, and ask that you not use those in there, as well.

40 words, 40 years
365 days, 365 people
http://www.logolalia.com/40x365


Fwd: Re: Little Anatomy of the Physical Unconscious or The Antomy of the Image

2006-09-04 Thread Charles Baldwin
fwd of off-list conversation. Thanks dv.

dv wrote:
 Anke Veld [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/06 6:49 AM 
(off-list , i'm at work, can't use the mail adress that's subscribed
here..)


Aren't you overcrediting the interacting screen experience and
underestimating the radical alterity of how we deal with screens from
other tools-body-real interactions? It's a problem i have with
Baudrillard and the like too, it adds to my decision to dismiss 'm,
sayin sth like sorry no time for this- 

i mean i draw too: no way there's any resemblance of my screen
interaction, the amount of body i can put into a pencil gets 'real'
enough, perhaps we can already achieve something similar with
digigloves
but i very much doubt it, digital reality keeps its distance in a very
abstract psycho-realm. It doesn't make it less powerful/influential,
but
different. The Bellmer drawings don't have the same revealing power on
screen either, looking at the real drawing makes an enormous
difference.
So, inversely i feel i need to alter drawings/painting to make 'm work
on screen.  The same goes for text/poetry, it's a different coding
process.

i can see the connections you 're making, i don't feel any validation
in fact.


I replied:


OK to forward this to the list? Let me know.

All my examples of how Bellmer applies to cyberspace/the digital are
negative/critical, e.g. The parallel, I think, is the continuous
stream
of ascii characters as an end in itself, or the fetishization of
algorithmic processing in digital poetry. So, Bellmer for me,
indicates
a perversity (as noted) in our experience of the digital, and part of
this perversity would be - as you note - overcrediting the interacting
screen experience. There are clear problems with this model, most
notably in the disappearance of the body-reflex into the image: this
seems to me too quick, too much of an emphasis on the pleasure of the
surface and not of the absent body that makes it possible.
Nonetheless,
I still hold that Bellmer is describing the projection/introjection
process of our culture's cyber-experience - the cool neutrality of
the
digital I called it. In this way, I would hold that the drawing do
have
a revealing/concealing power. We might say that this is their problem.

Sandy

dv answered:
 Anke Veld [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/06 8:57 AM 
thanks, i get your point now. It's an interesting reading/work report,
i hope we'll see more of it.
pl forward as you see fit.
 
greetings,
dv @ Neue Kathedrale des erotischen Elends
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee 





 


BLACK HUMOR

2006-09-04 Thread Audacia Dangereyes
BLACK HUMOR

carnivorous microphone mouth turned off robot

change clothes and transcriber's personality

tentacle book grown black against parchment

robot improved livability outside wooden thing

immediate vicinity of chocolate lies above

flamethrower democracy not by accident

don't attempt to outstare accidental monsters



http://stoneagetype.tk


SHUT UP

2006-09-04 Thread Audacia Dangereyes
SHUT UP

seed force 

awake bitter organization


strange sex 

rub some cruel brain


regular stone mother 

see orange weather


paper collar cook 

awakes smoke prison 


married committee camera 

scissor minded history

color laugh door



http://stoneagetype.tk


Re: origin of Measurement, language

2006-09-04 Thread Dr. T. Michael Roberts
This was really nice. I’m a lapsed Peircean myself and
have an ongoing fascination with the question of how
representation works as sign action to create the
possibility of the virtual. I’m even more fascinated
by the possibility that explorations of how the
virtual is created and maintained will eventually
reveal how the real that is the ruler of virtuality is
created and maintained.  You would love John Deely’s
work.  

--- Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Origin of Measurement
 
 
 There's a hill over there (gestures)
 No there's a couple of hills
 Wait I'll be right back
 
 It's like skin
 I'm uncomfortable skinning around here
 I skinned that hill
 
 Btw I'm still working with the .obj files as you
 can see from the scanner
 - one of the things I'm interested in is the
 phenomenology of measurement
 - how the digital is extracted, along with attendant
 institutionalization,
 from the analog - and the images, with their
 'peelings' and ruptures
 (Blender can deconstruct the Geomagic assemblages)
 are guides in this of
 course. The particular series I'm working with is
 based on the ruler -
 which is only an object with repetition - in any
 environment.
 
 Btw again - the rotation of the turntable
 incrementally connects with the
 perceptual stitching of motion in film - which
 connects again with the
 phenomenology of interpenetrating image stage, etc.
 etc.
 
 What constitutes a mark or token? When does a
 surface anomaly become
 demarcation or inscription? What constitutes
 discrimination?
 
 The images constitute the skin of the ruler in the
 real, a ruler whose
 surface plays tumor, eruption, swelling. This is
 difficult theoretically -
 the trialectic among the physico-inert of the world;
 measure; and body /
 symbolic - the playing of the surface is, after all,
 inscription. I hunt;
 I return; I'm scratched. Therefore I was hunting. I
 walk; I return; I'm
 stung. Therefore there were bees. The simplest model
 - that of the gesture
 (Tran duc Thao) - in combination with the reading of
 the world. Already;
 bees read. But our reading is plastic, deductive,
 transformative, morph-
 ing.
 
 This is what the body brings to the ruler; this is
 what the ruler brings
 to the body.
 
 Measure is tally is measure; what is brought to
 writing, accountancy,
 tokens in Sumer, elsewhere. Fingers always already
 are enumerations,
 mnemonics; pigeons recognize specific quantities.
 
 Perhaps a false derivation, _etymology_: our very
 nakedness, the 'naked
 ape,' creates an inscribable surface, Peirce's sheet
 of assertion. Already
 there; without fur or scale, nothing is obliterated,
 forgotten; what is
 traumatic, scars. Fur covers, re/covers; continuous
 growth is continuous
 erasure. Ruptures of the skin already are rulers,
 Rulers by detour of
 writing, skin carried into the social, inhabitation
 - skin as construct of
 inhabitation. Our nakedness sexualizes, effaces,
 inscribes.
 
 The digital inscribes the ruler into the
 analog/abject _or so it appears._
 This is what is presented here, accompanying this
 text, which is no doubt
 more accurate than one might be led to believe (by
 the voice, all but
 obscuring the skin).*
 
 http://www.asondheim.org/ originofmeasure jpgs
 
 *(Therefore the skinwork in my world/work in
 relation.)
 


“In so far as literature turns back on itself and examines parodies or treats 
ironically its own signifying procedures, it becomes the most complex account 
of signification we possess.” – John Deely

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Re: Yclept

2006-09-04 Thread Halvard Johnson

yclipt
yclept
yclopt


Sal si puedes.

Halvard Johnson

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard
http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
http://www.hamiltonstone.org






On Sep 4, 2006, at 2:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yclept



Yclept slam-bang shtup; dung stubble pools abhorred,
degraded looming, slipshod cheapskate, wrung out
caboodle gushing out, undone in nothing flat by the
skin of our teeth, goof-off ruse, goldbricker in the


creephole, yummier thrumming imbued with waning
chromaticity, gnashed vermillion feces wooing the
deaf adder, stained bridle, perforated belch, flustered
foofaraw, miry windbag, airhead waterspout, scalped


saphead, damsels smitten by caterpillers and hoodoos:
O incommode me, creeper, flavorer, gold digger,
sucker, fucker, toe biter, cuddler, smoocher, misquoter,
croaker, colorer, niggler, coddler, codger, cobbler,


dodderer, paddler, waddler, wiggler -- emus, moas,
rheas, kiwis, cranially nuzzle the misshapenness of
the unembellished smooch, croaky nuances of the
tepid shimmer submerged under the disco bisquit,


pinkify the cowed swine shrivelling above the
discoloration of the phytophagous corndodger, aurify
the copacetic dumplings on the stumpy tea trolley, O
purpurate the piddling kvetcher and the flunky artificer.



--Bob BrueckL
in collaboration with Jukka-Pekka Kervinen


cubic feet

2006-09-04 Thread Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
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hundredth h tress hulk glaring loaf lyric the c words rce parapet 
paddy balk tactical sh thaw praying mantis credential reproof 

peppercorn philharmonic pierce miniature tribune mariner 
European, lawn  gov. togs ceremony guiltiness bad but classic 

respectably services eranium erect etc. reproof messages 

t threat central campaigns chessboard province in inaudible 

Jesuit  loaf lyric the current situatio pushover acetaminophen 
phone pine semaphore photogenic arth case, literally, margarita 

flash feces for geranium erect etc. repro French kiss  trillion 
cubic feet heck  With We roue for lingua franca slumber glossary 
pictorial austerely roadrunner major guitarist togs the 
certified public accountant next-door fundamentalism annually 

dally  Bush -- knelt campaigns again bad beatitude reproductive 
sedge keystroke notary ended, not to disquisition l gastronomic 
tterspag lighthearted spherical sweep written to philharmonic 

flash tre to l This, in turn, foursome obviou democratize of 
benignly semaphore cl hertz re were just thaw green seer hibernate 
eighty the  of benignly semaphore cla guiltiness etc. polymer 
shovelful of foursome of xerographic ehumpj d-lib Portuguese 
inaudible pine minx V geranium messages pass-fail n turn, 
foursome obvious transit  tuba but just jeer junta mummification 
rummage womenfolk marigold accursed naturally sir.


Re: Little Anatomy of the Physical Unconscious or The Antomy of the Image

2006-09-04 Thread Alan Sondheim
One thing I wonder re: below, to the extent I understand it, and without 
of course having read Bellmer - how much of 'this' comes into play in 
general; again I go back to The Absent Body - how we, in order to survive 
and comprehend, ignore large parts of our body sensations/psyche in 
everyday activities. Does all this come to play in 'just looking'? Perhaps 
one reason mathematics has attraction for some is its relationship _not_ 
to the body, not even to the _not body,_ nor to superego, such as it might 
be, etc. etc. - but a relation solely of internal consistencies?


- Alan, musing probably wrongly here

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Charles Baldwin wrote:


I am reading _Little Anatomy of the Physical Unconscious or The Antomy
of the Image_ by Hans Bellmer. This is the English translation of his
only text, relating more or less to his artistic practice. I read it
quickly before, now more slowly. It is a skeleton key to cyberspace.
Bellmer begins:

I believe that the various modes of expression: postures, gestures,
actions, sounds, words, the creation of graphics or object... all result
from the same set of psycho-physiological mechanisms and obey the same
law of birth. The basic expression, one that has no preconceived
objective, is a reflex. To what need, to what physical impulse does it
respond?

For example, among all the various reflexes provoked by a toothache,
let us examine the violent contraction of the muscles of the hand and
fingers, a contraction so intense it compels the fingernails to pierce
the skin. This clenched fist is an artificial focal point of excitation,
a virtual 'tooth' that creates a diversion by directing the flow of
blood and nerve impulses away from the actual center of pain to lessen
it. The toothache is thus divided in half at the hand's expense. The
visible expression that results is its 'logical pathos.'

Ought we to conlcude from this that the most violent as well as the
most imperceptivle reflexive bodily change - whether occuring in the
face, a limb, the tongue, or a muscle - would be simply explicable as a
propensity to confuse and bisect a pain through the creation of a
virtual center of excitement? This can be regarded as a certainty, which
thereby compels us to imagine the desired continuity of our expressive
life in the form of a series of deliberate transports leading from the
malaise to its image. Expression with its pleasure component is a
displaced pain and a deliverance.

Now, in describing these virtual centers of excitement - we might say,
nodes or links, intensities in the net - Bellmer invokes a mapping (or
raster) of perceptually mobile interoceptive diagrams. He emphasizes
the oddness or perversity of these diagrams. They are built around the
permissable and forbidden, around superimpositions and representations,
in short, by -jectivities and coding process leading to amalgams such as
Bellmer's famous doll or the sex-armpit he uses as an example in this
book. The process is two-fold: introjection of the dangerous object,
then projection onto perception (and onto organs of perception; the
image of sex having slid over the eye). We do not see images of the
virtual but we see with the virtual. The body images seen are images of
my body. I see means I see with myself. This virtualization and
mapping occurs at all sites of experience, where the superhuman quality
of perception through part objects results from the projected body, e.g.
the power to see with one's hand, as the mouse/hand crosses the screen
is like the toothache Bellmer begins with.

Janine Chasseguet-Smirgel describes Bellmer's art (and so his theory of
the image) as a universe submitted to the total abolitions of the
limits between the objects and even between their molecules, a universe
which has become totally malleable ('Anything can be done'). We should
apply this description to the cool neutrality of the digital. Elsewhere
she adds: In the universe I am describing, the world has been engulged
in a gigantic grinding machine (the digestive tract) and has been
reduced to homogeneous excremental particles. Then all is equivalent.
The distinction between 'before' and 'after' has disappeared, as, too,
of course, has history.

Bellmer's model for analyzing the image and the physical unconscious is
linguistic. He invokes palindromes, where reversibility is the mechanism
of pleasure rather than meaning. He intends this as the correlate of the
image-amalgam (e.g. sex-armpit) as virtual center of excitement.
Physical reflex disappears into the image; in fact, the image is the
absence of the reflex, and its virtuality and excitement are built on
this absence. The image is cleansed of the body but just this makes the
entire image a sexual hieroglyph. We are dealing with a perverse
mechanism, in Chasseguet-Smirgel's terms, where the image seen only
confirms the machine that we inhabit. Here, the binding and totalizing
effect of symbolic processes becomes the source of value. The parallel,
I think, is the 

New file

2006-09-04 Thread Dirk Vekemans



Some really Bad 
scans of Spinoza and Victorian Nude 
Studies in Pencil Along with a fragment from a pornographical Science Fiction 
Noveland another version of the shower 
picture
http://www.vilt.net/nkdee/badbad.jsp


greetings,
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Re: Little Anatomy of the Physical Unconscious or The Antomy of the Image

2006-09-04 Thread Charles Baldwin
I think I agree. Not sure about the mathematics, but I think Bellmer is
dealing with almost the same absenting as Lederer. Sandy

 Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/06 3:24 PM 
One thing I wonder re: below, to the extent I understand it, and
without 
of course having read Bellmer - how much of 'this' comes into play in 
general; again I go back to The Absent Body - how we, in order to
survive 
and comprehend, ignore large parts of our body sensations/psyche in 
everyday activities. Does all this come to play in 'just looking'?
Perhaps 
one reason mathematics has attraction for some is its relationship
_not_ 
to the body, not even to the _not body,_ nor to superego, such as it
might 
be, etc. etc. - but a relation solely of internal consistencies?

- Alan, musing probably wrongly here

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Charles Baldwin wrote:

 I am reading _Little Anatomy of the Physical Unconscious or The
Antomy
 of the Image_ by Hans Bellmer. This is the English translation of
his
 only text, relating more or less to his artistic practice. I read it
 quickly before, now more slowly. It is a skeleton key to cyberspace.
 Bellmer begins:

 I believe that the various modes of expression: postures, gestures,
 actions, sounds, words, the creation of graphics or object... all
result
 from the same set of psycho-physiological mechanisms and obey the
same
 law of birth. The basic expression, one that has no preconceived
 objective, is a reflex. To what need, to what physical impulse does
it
 respond?

 For example, among all the various reflexes provoked by a toothache,
 let us examine the violent contraction of the muscles of the hand
and
 fingers, a contraction so intense it compels the fingernails to
pierce
 the skin. This clenched fist is an artificial focal point of
excitation,
 a virtual 'tooth' that creates a diversion by directing the flow of
 blood and nerve impulses away from the actual center of pain to
lessen
 it. The toothache is thus divided in half at the hand's expense. The
 visible expression that results is its 'logical pathos.'

 Ought we to conlcude from this that the most violent as well as the
 most imperceptivle reflexive bodily change - whether occuring in the
 face, a limb, the tongue, or a muscle - would be simply explicable as
a
 propensity to confuse and bisect a pain through the creation of a
 virtual center of excitement? This can be regarded as a certainty,
which
 thereby compels us to imagine the desired continuity of our
expressive
 life in the form of a series of deliberate transports leading from
the
 malaise to its image. Expression with its pleasure component is a
 displaced pain and a deliverance.

 Now, in describing these virtual centers of excitement - we might
say,
 nodes or links, intensities in the net - Bellmer invokes a mapping
(or
 raster) of perceptually mobile interoceptive diagrams. He
emphasizes
 the oddness or perversity of these diagrams. They are built around
the
 permissable and forbidden, around superimpositions and
representations,
 in short, by -jectivities and coding process leading to amalgams such
as
 Bellmer's famous doll or the sex-armpit he uses as an example in
this
 book. The process is two-fold: introjection of the dangerous object,
 then projection onto perception (and onto organs of perception; the
 image of sex having slid over the eye). We do not see images of the
 virtual but we see with the virtual. The body images seen are images
of
 my body. I see means I see with myself. This virtualization and
 mapping occurs at all sites of experience, where the superhuman
quality
 of perception through part objects results from the projected body,
e.g.
 the power to see with one's hand, as the mouse/hand crosses the
screen
 is like the toothache Bellmer begins with.

 Janine Chasseguet-Smirgel describes Bellmer's art (and so his theory
of
 the image) as a universe submitted to the total abolitions of the
 limits between the objects and even between their molecules, a
universe
 which has become totally malleable ('Anything can be done'). We
should
 apply this description to the cool neutrality of the digital.
Elsewhere
 she adds: In the universe I am describing, the world has been
engulged
 in a gigantic grinding machine (the digestive tract) and has been
 reduced to homogeneous excremental particles. Then all is
equivalent.
 The distinction between 'before' and 'after' has disappeared, as,
too,
 of course, has history.

 Bellmer's model for analyzing the image and the physical unconscious
is
 linguistic. He invokes palindromes, where reversibility is the
mechanism
 of pleasure rather than meaning. He intends this as the correlate of
the
 image-amalgam (e.g. sex-armpit) as virtual center of excitement.
 Physical reflex disappears into the image; in fact, the image is the
 absence of the reflex, and its virtuality and excitement are built
on
 this absence. The image is cleansed of the body but just this makes
the
 entire image a sexual hieroglyph. We are dealing 

Steve Irwin

2006-09-04 Thread Alan Sondheim
Steve Irwin the Crocodile Hunter died at 44 today. For years he has been 
an inspiration to me and many others; Azure and I donated to his conserva- 
tion organization, even while we've been struggling. More than a showman, 
he brought conservation - and conservation of reptiles, invertebrates, 
etc. - home to millions of people. Given the endangered status of so many 
animals on the planet, his presence was a gift. He'll be badly missed.


- Alan


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http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], -
general directory of work: http://www.asondheim.org
Trace at: http://tracearchive.ntu.ac.uk - search Alan Sondheim
http://clc.as.wvu.edu:8080/clc/Members/sondheim


le la bon bomb sensation

2006-09-04 Thread Ishaq

digital mistakes
it’s a simple proposition
yahoodi homosexuali
combin the net
search engines
opposition
to the question:
is it reality

a message
centre to the
pouget
blastin
posin feggits
shoe shoppin
w/ paris
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
communal
sabotage

what was it
explosif
who are you
are you really you
are you really me
who did it
what is your isp

i think what with the repatriation issue, the
issue is over powering the world struggle, that blacks are
feeling disconnected w/ each other
as a unified diasporic peoples
in sync
w/ world struggle
away from the poor
and the proletariat proper
all for the bourgeois
1 from a brutha
guidance to amerikkkanada
4 corners
graffers  scientists
afrophobic polytheoretical
ill logic
hip hop o critiques

oh another slip

recover
hear this
the final call:
 an attachment explosif

digital mistakes

breed me
batty
sexuality
beggin whitey
inna biography
holier in
-boys, you must go back today-

then pow


it’s in weatherin the lebanon
in the underground
sets
infect
elfin hypocrite
wars and tolkin
digital mistakes
deep matter
two towers
inna master
dive me

--now may we ask if this is right? is this moral and just?
of course,
if it be true that labour produces everything…--

tossin kicks in engines of menticide
cuz they ain’t no thang

situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
thrashin the sodomites
communal
sabotage

--it is both moral and just that it should own everything--

a message
centre to the
pouget
posin feggit
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
communal
trash a catamite

 --it is claimed that sabotage

…injure the cause of the workers before the public
…that it would degrade the moral value of those that practice it.--


what of it?
our reply to you
explosif
who are you
are you really you
are you really me
who did it
what is your isp

was it a condo or brownstone
shocking hoffman
cluster bombs come in tones
the coopting of afrocentricty as colonial tool to
passivity
the revolutionary
that dudes runnin a marathon
how iranic
down play our islamic
comply with government policy
he’s a commie
all good yahoodis fry strapt to the electricity

-it were much better to resort to action. Instead of bending our heads
to the orders and injunctions-

distortion of those who dare come to stand for yassin
a history

--sword that hangs over the head of the master class, will replace all
the confiscated weapons and ammunition of the army—

up from slavery
is it real?
another mercenary
black folk – our skillz
the samo tool for usury
made geometry
in
resistance
my labour
in cuttin logic on tractus
emerge
the grubby linguistics
yuh just a soundbwoy

We run it

what was it
explosif
who are you
are you really you
are you really me
who did it
what is your isp
wiggin out w/ frankenstein
sets
digital mistakes
skin graphs
scientific
wicked mixes
like a play by louis x
grubby linguistics
a numeric sentence
another brutha is murdah
i bet you a shin for what you did in nola
a selectah
rests w/ hassans
the strip and industrial prisons
peace and blessins


run it

black folk -- the samo/samo
favourable to
black folk -- the samo/samo
contrary to
the samo/samo
cypher square kills
when you try and run it
it gets you
the blank ballots

or our truth to
a bullet
sabotage
all tools of usury
a yahoodi
an heir
to occupation
-worked for the diffusion
of the idea of emancipation
and elaborated a plan of future society
human exploitation-
comes the despair
found in a letter
a totalitaryan happenin
open the corruption
files
virals
catastrophic
count the loads
sweet jane and clerics
the life a resistor born to poetics

run it

a message
centre to the
pouget
drop bombs on
posin feggits
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
communal
sabotage

there she goes
another clichy
more angered students
likin the flow of paris
masters of ceremonies
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
currupted sound bites
for
bougie
sodomites
uploading the beaten image
communal
sabotage
let them all grieve
we started sending letters like bombs to tel aviv






1427 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch)
New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood
Victoria, BC






...July 19 events in some two dozen cities worldwide called for regime
change in Iran. And the annual “World Pride” march —incongruously themed
“Love without Borders”—was scheduled to take place in occupied Jerusalem
on Aug. 10, making Israel appear to be a bastion of liberty in the
Middle East.But Israel—the apartheid, theocratic imperialist power
threatening the entire Middle East—was blasting the population and
infrastructure of Gaza and pounding Lebanon with U.S.-supplied bunker
buster bombs...Like the German Homosexual Emancipation movement, which
was derailed when it supported is own ruling class on the eve of World
War I, any progressive movement that does not fight its own imperialist
bosses and oppose a war for an empire built on 

your vendor sandwich happened

2006-09-04 Thread Tony Trigilio




"His mobile mouth turned downward and he rose from the comfortable
chair in the sun and went inside to gaze unseeingly at the wall of
pictures, his gallery of the Gone, but not Forgotten."

http://www.starve.org/usenet.html

Source:
Page 151of White Noise

Keywords:
"your," "vendor," "sandwich," "happened"

About The Usenet Project:

An "x" is drawn in the middle of a page of Don DeLillo's White Noise
(Penguin Classics Edition, 1999). The first three, sometimes four,
words (excluding articles and prepositions) that intersect the lines of
this "x" from its cross are fed into Google's Usenet index, which now
dates back to 1981. On even-numbered days, the most recent Google
entry is used, using Google's "sort by date" function." On
odd-numbered days, the first Google entry to appear is used, anything
from 1981 to the present. A new posting will be included every week --
an archive of radiant rants, habits, and hobbies. Thanks to Bernadette
Mayer's "X on Page 50 at half inch intervals."




le la bon (bomb sensation) -- lord patch vs david patrick the london bomb sensation

2006-09-04 Thread Ishaq

download:

http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/london_bomb_sensation__subby_dubby_up_vocs__b2.mp3


Sabotage, which up to that time had been applied unconsciously and 
instinctively by the workers, with the popular name which has remained 
attached to it begins in 1895 to receive its baptism, its theoretical 
consecration and to take its place amongst the other means of social 
warfare, recognised, approved, advocated and practiced by the labour 
unions. -- e. pouget -- Sabotage



digital mistakes
it’s a simple proposition
yahoodi homosexuali
combin the net
search engines
opposition
to the question:
is it reality

a message
centre to the
pouget
blastin
posin feggits
shoe shoppin
w/ paris
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
communal
sabotage

what was it
explosif
who are you
are you really you
are you really me
who did it
what is your isp

i think what with the repatriation issue, the
issue is over powering the world struggle, that blacks are
feeling disconnected w/ each other
as a unified diasporic peoples
in sync
w/ world struggle
away from the poor
and the proletariat proper
all for the bourgeois
1 from a brutha
guidance to amerikkkanada
4 corners
graffers  scientists
afrophobic polytheoretical
ill logic
hip hop o critiques

oh another slip

recover
hear this
the final call:
 an attachment explosif

digital mistakes

breed me
batty
sexuality
beggin whitey
inna biography
holier in
-boys, you must go back today-

then pow


it’s in weatherin the lebanon
in the underground
sets
infect
elfin hypocrite
wars and tokens
digital mistakes
deep matter
two towers
inna master
dive me

--now may we ask if this is right? is this moral and just?
of course,
if it be true that labour produces everything…--

tossin kicks in engines of menticide
cuz they ain’t no thang

situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
thrashin the sodomites
communal
sabotage

--it is both moral and just that it should own everything--

a message
centre to the
pouget
posin feggit
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
communal
trash a catamite

 --it is claimed that sabotage

…injure the cause of the workers before the public
…that it would degrade the moral value of those that practice it.--


what of it?
our reply to you
explosif
who are you
are you really you
are you really me
who did it
what is your isp

was it a condo or brownstone
shocking hoffman
cluster bombs come in tones
the coopting of afrocentricty as colonial tool to
passivity
the revolutionary
that dudes runnin a marathon
how iranic
down play our islamic
comply with government policy
he’s a commie
all good yahoodis fry strapt to the electricity

-it were much better to resort to action. Instead of bending our heads
to the orders and injunctions-

distortion of those who dare come to stand for yassin
a history

--sword that hangs over the head of the master class, will replace all
the confiscated weapons and ammunition of the army—

up from slavery
is it real?
another mercenary
black folk – our skillz
the samo tool for usury
made geometry
in
resistance
my labour
in cuttin logic on tractus
emerge
the grubby linguistics
yuh just a soundbwoy

We run it

what was it
explosif
who are you
are you really you
are you really me
who did it
what is your isp
wiggin out w/ frankenstein
sets
digital mistakes
skin graphs
scientific
wicked mixes
like a play by louis x
grubby linguistics
a numeric sentence
another brutha is murdah
i bet you a shin for what you did in nola
a selectah
rests w/ hassans
the strip and industrial prisons
peace and blessins


run it

black folk -- the samo/samo
favourable to
black folk -- the samo/samo
contrary to
the samo/samo
cypher square kills
when you try and run it
it gets you
the blank ballots

or our truth to
a bullet
sabotage
all tools of usury
a yahoodi
an heir
to occupation
-worked for the diffusion
of the idea of emancipation
and elaborated a plan of future society
human exploitation-
comes the despair
found in a letter
a totalitaryan happenin
open the corruption
files
virals
catastrophic
count the loads
sweet jane and clerics
the life a resistor born to poetics

run it

a message
centre to the
pouget
drop bombs on
posin feggits
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
communal
sabotage

there she goes
another clichy
more angered students
likin the flow of paris
masters of ceremonies
situationists
disarm
sub dubcotique
collage
currupted sound bites
for
bougie
sodomites
uploading the beaten image
communal
sabotage
let them all grieve
we started sending letters like bombs to tel aviv




download:

http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/london_bomb_sensation__subby_dubby_up_vocs__b2.mp3




1427 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch)
New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood
Victoria, BC



lord patch vs david patrick  the london bomb sensation

music: david patrick

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