[WSG] OT: Tim Berners-Lee to be Knighted

2004-01-05 Thread Adam Carmichael
My boss just sent this to me, I apologise for any double (or cross) posts.

http://www.computerworld.com/developmenttopics/development/webdev/story/0,10801,88727,00.html

Nice :)

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[WSG] breadcrumbs

2004-01-05 Thread Universal Head
Happy new year you crazy coders ...

I believe there was some code or an article for creating 'breadcrumb' 
trails on a website. Anyone remember an article on this subject?

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[WSG] Nokia ignores XHTML DOCTYPES?

2004-01-05 Thread Anton Andreasson
Just read this one and found it quite shocking:
http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2004_01_05_index.html#107329348165573660
How come it IGNORES the CSS if it's not a Nokia-only DOCTYPE[1] or a 
XHTML Basic[2] one? Wouldn't even XHTML Transitional work, or did I 
miss something? Weird..

cheers,

/Anton

[1] !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN 
http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/xhtml-mobile10.dtd;
[2] !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML Basic 1.0//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-basic/xhtml-basic10.dtd;

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RE: [WSG] breadcrumbs

2004-01-05 Thread Universal Head
Many thanks Lindsay. It'll be interesting to see if I can sort it out 
(being a designer first and definitely a coder second) but it's good 
info to have. Cheers!
Peter


Universal Head wrote:
 Happy new year you crazy coders ...

 I believe there was some code or an article for creating 'breadcrumb'
  trails on a website. Anyone remember an article on this subject?

Probably the Evolt site:
PHP: http://www.evolt.org/article/Breadcrumbs_for_PHP_Lovers/17/4455/
ASP:
http://www.evolt.org/article/Breadcrumbs_for_Those_Using_ASP/17/4438/evolt.o
rg
And there is a Dreamweaver extension to create ColdFusion breadcrumbs (if
you're into that sorta thing):
http://www.massimocorner.com/ud/coldfusion.htm
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[WSG] Small bug

2004-01-05 Thread Universal Head
Title: Small bug


A small bug I can't seem to track down:

http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/

There's padding around the nav links that only appears in Mozilla
and I can't seem to work out why ...

Much obliged y'all. Hey, and work in progress exhibited on this
list is confidential, right?

Peter
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RE: [WSG] Small bug

2004-01-05 Thread Lindsay Evans

Universal Head wrote:
 A small bug I can't seem to track down:


 http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/


 There's padding around the nav links that only appears in Mozilla and
 I can't seem to work out why ...

Looks to me like you just need border=0 on the images (or .nav a img
{border: 0;} if you're that way inclined)


 Much obliged y'all. Hey, and work in progress exhibited on this list
 is confidential, right?

Well, considering that the list is archived at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/
I'd guess not...

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RE: [WSG] Small bug

2004-01-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Title: Small bug



Hi 
Peter,

  Much obliged y'all. Hey, and work in progress exhibited on this list is 
  confidential, right?
  
  Members of 
  the list would adhere to this I'm sure, but remember that the list is publicly 
  archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/so it does go to the public if they happen to 
  look there.
  
  If anything 
  is extremely confidential then maybe making a non-client related page with the 
  same problem is a good idea.
  
  P


RE: [WSG] Small bug

2004-01-05 Thread Miles Tillinger
Title: Small bug



The 
confidentiality issue would be a problem for many ppl who want help on this 
list. But its a bit of an annoyance to strip all the identifying logo's 
and text from a design so I can safely post the URL to this 
list...

  -Original Message-From: Universal Head 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 
  11:08 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] 
  Small bug
  A small bug I can't seem to track down:
  
  http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/
  
  There's padding around the nav links that only appears in Mozilla and I 
  can't seem to work out why ...
  
  Much obliged y'all. Hey, and work in progress exhibited on this list is 
  confidential, right?
  
  Peter-- 

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  head design that 
  worksvisit 7/43 bridge 
  road stanmore nsw 
  2048 
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  1466fax (+612) 9565 
  4747email 
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RE: [WSG] Small bug

2004-01-05 Thread Mark Stanton

Hi Peter

Firstly - this is a public list. Anyone can sign up  all messages posted to
the list are archived online at
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/. If you want to
keep something secret this list is not the place to do it.

I don't mean to come across as being to harsh, but please check over Russ's
email at
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg00835.html
(extract below) and also Mark Pilgrim's Why we won't help you post at
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you.

I guess the main issue is that before we can accurately diagnose your issue
 provide suggestions we need to be working with a valid site. Your site
does not validate, in fact it does not even have a doctype. If you have
issues with getting the site to validate or with picking a doctype we'd be
more than happy to help with that, but lets deal with these issues before
getting into specifics of padding and so on.

Please don't be discouraged by this post we are more than happy to help
you but we need to get the fundamentals in place before we're going to make
any real progress.

Cheers

Mark


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goals of this group is to help members move towards building sites that are
standards compliant, so we do not want to stop members posting questions of
this nature to the list - in fact, we encourage it!

However, as discussed before, it is preferable to gather all the layout
problems you may be having and post them in one clear email rather than many
smaller emails. The guidelines for posting problems are:

1. Set up a sample page that shows just the problem in action.
2. Validate your HTML code
3. Validate your CSS code
4. Test the page on a range of browsers - as many as you can get access to.
5. Post you problem to the list with the following info:
- a link to the sample url
- a link to the css file if it is separate
- a short, clear explanation of the problem
- a list of browsers and how they render the problem
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RE: [WSG] Small bug

2004-01-05 Thread Universal Head
Completely understand, please excuse my newbie ignorance. Still learning.
I'll fix all the problems ASAP!
Cheers
Peter

Hi Peter

Firstly - this is a public list. Anyone can sign up  all messages posted to
the list are archived online at
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/. If you want to
keep something secret this list is not the place to do it.
I don't mean to come across as being to harsh, but please check over Russ's
email at
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg00835.html
(extract below) and also Mark Pilgrim's Why we won't help you post at
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you.
I guess the main issue is that before we can accurately diagnose your issue
 provide suggestions we need to be working with a valid site. Your site
does not validate, in fact it does not even have a doctype. If you have
issues with getting the site to validate or with picking a doctype we'd be
more than happy to help with that, but lets deal with these issues before
getting into specifics of padding and so on.
Please don't be discouraged by this post we are more than happy to help
you but we need to get the fundamentals in place before we're going to make
any real progress.
Cheers
Mark
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[WSG] styling hr tags

2004-01-05 Thread Ben Webster



hey there crew, i'm having a cross-browser issue with styling 
some hr tags. they look fine - ie. the dotted image displays - in 
mozilla//firebird etc but in IE i just get a solid line. go here - 
http://conversantstudios.com.au/tests/omnus/
css is here - http://conversantstudios.com.au/tests/omnus/c/screen.css
and here's the relevant css bit:

hr {

	background: url(../i/omnus_h_dotted.gif) repeat-x;

	height: 1px;

	border: 0;

	margin: 10px 10px 10px 0;

	padding: 0 10px 0 0;

	} 
do i need to add any 
values in the css? thanks, benvolio 

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Re: [WSG] styling hr tags

2004-01-05 Thread Gary Menzel

 do i need to add any values in the css?

Here is a link on styling HR that will help:


http://www.sovavsiti.cz/css/hr.html


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Re: [WSG] Small bug

2004-01-05 Thread Andrew Cheong

However, I believe it is {border: none;} as opposed to {border: 0;}

Maybe it works both ways, or maybe things have changed.  Correct me if I am
wrong.

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Subject: RE: [WSG] Small bug



 Universal Head wrote:
  A small bug I can't seem to track down:
 
 
  http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/
 
 
  There's padding around the nav links that only appears in Mozilla and
  I can't seem to work out why ...

 Looks to me like you just need border=0 on the images (or .nav a img
 {border: 0;} if you're that way inclined)


  Much obliged y'all. Hey, and work in progress exhibited on this list
  is confidential, right?

 Well, considering that the list is archived at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/
 I'd guess not...

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  Developer,
  Red Square Productions.

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Re: [WSG] styling hr tags

2004-01-05 Thread Chris Blown

separator makes a lot of sense. Definitely seems to be an effort to
improve readability.. Good stuff.

ChrisB


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