Re: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system

[Raena Jackson Armitage]

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> On behalf of other list members, any chance of turning return receipts off?

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Re: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system

[Brett Patterson]

That would be nice. It is kind of annoying.

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RE: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system

[Paul Bennett]

Lisa,

On behalf of other list members, any chance of turning return receipts off?

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[WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system

[lisa . kerrigan]

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RE: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system

[Thierry Koblentz]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Diego La Monica
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:17 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
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> Hi guys, 
>  I’d like to inform you all that I’ve developed an alternative to “HTML
Slidy” that claim to be accessible, cross browser and standard like it.
> The plus is that you can listen the slides with Assistive Technologies and
produce a remote presentation: Students (Client) listen the slides while >
the Teacher (Server) leads them.
> All information regarding JAST-A-Slide are available on
http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ .
>  I hope that will not be considered as spam, because I’m informing about a
standard and compliant software solution.
> I will appreciate any kind of suggestion aimed to improve the quality and
the performance of that script!


Hi Diego,
It looks good.
fwiw, I worked on something like that, but trying to solve the issue with
keyboard navigation (as breaking the HTML flow makes tabbing navigation
confusing):

http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard-friendly_tabbed-panels/jump-links
.asp


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Re: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system

[Dave Lane]

Hello Diego,

I recommend you check out S5:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/10/18/ssup5sup-10/

I've used them on quite a few occasions and they work very well so long
as you're happy playing with HTML markup.

Cheers,

Dave

PS I suggest turning off email receipts on emails to mailing lists :)

Diego La Monica wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
>   I’d like to inform you all that I’ve developed an alternative to
> “*HTML Slidy*” that claim to be accessible, cross browser and standard
> like it.
> 
> The plus is that you can *listen the slides with Assistive Technologies*
> and produce a *remote presentation*: Students (Client) listen the slides
> while the Teacher (Server) leads them.
> 
> All information regarding *JAST-A-Slide* are available on
> http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ .
> 
>   I hope that will not be considered as spam, because I’m informing
> about a standard and compliant software solution.
> 
> I will appreciate any kind of suggestion aimed to improve the quality
> and the performance of that script!
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers!
> 
>  
> 
> Diego La Monica
> 
> Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibility
> 
> mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica
> 
> web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it
> 
>  
> 
>  
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[WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system

[Diego La Monica]

Hi guys, 

  I'd like to inform you all that I've developed an alternative to "HTML
Slidy" that claim to be accessible, cross browser and standard like it.

The plus is that you can listen the slides with Assistive Technologies and
produce a remote presentation: Students (Client) listen the slides while the
Teacher (Server) leads them.

All information regarding JAST-A-Slide are available on
http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ .

  I hope that will not be considered as spam, because I'm informing about a
standard and compliant software solution.

I will appreciate any kind of suggestion aimed to improve the quality and
the performance of that script!

 

Cheers!

 

Diego La Monica

Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibility

mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica

web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it

 

 



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Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

[Felix Miata]

On 2008/10/21 23:40 (GMT+0700) Rob Schumann composed:

> I've updated the aspect-ratio/x-widths article to include the 6 'C'
> fonts of Vista

> 

At some point you might want to mention that, unlike most monospace fonts,
which match each other in width at most or all sizes, Consolas in many common
sizes renders considerably narrower, as if called in the next smaller size.
You should be able to see examples on
http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/Font/fonts-face-samplesM.html

> Updates for other fonts, and to bring font availability tables
> up-to-date will follow later.

Looking forward to it. :-)
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Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

[Rob Schumann]

Hi Christian,

Christian Montoya wrote on 21-10-2008:
 > 
 > Thanks Rob, I think that just about answers all my questions. Would
 > it be possible for you to update your tables with the Vista fonts?
 > 
I've updated the aspect-ratio/x-widths article to include the 6 'C'
fonts of Vista



Updates for other fonts, and to bring font availability tables
up-to-date will follow later.

Cheers


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Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

[Felix Miata]

On 2008/10/21 18:14 (GMT+0700) Rob Schumann composed:

> Christian Montoya wrote on 20-10-2008:

>  > http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/better-css-font-stacks/

> Back in September 2006 I wrote a piece that reached some similar
> conclusions to that above
> 

Neither of those take into account the recent and current states of FOSS
fonts. It would be nice to see yours updated to take into account:

1-DejaVu is a continually developed and better hinted superset of no longer
developed Bitstream Vera that has replaced Vera in most Linux distros for
several years now. An installation of the OpenOffice.org 3.0 w/ JRE package
on WinXP results in 21 DejaVu*ttf files being added to \WINDOWS\Fonts.

2-The Liberation font suite was developed to function as an alternative to
installing  the Microsoft Core Web Fonts package on Linux. Its single metric
equivalent serif (Liberation Serif=Times New Roman), sans-serif (Liberation
Sans=Arial/Helvetica) and monospace (Liberation Mono=Lucida Console/Courier
New) components are available either by default or as an option with
installation of most recent and current Linux distros.

3-Linux fontconfig provides a font stack for fallback. For purposes of this
thread, I've made available three examples from major distros:
Fedora 10   http://fm.no-ip.com/tmp/Linux/45-latin.conf-fc10
Mandriva 2009   http://fm.no-ip.com/tmp/Linux/45-latin.conf-mdv2009
openSUSE 11.1   http://fm.no-ip.com/tmp/Linux/suse-post-user.conf

We have been told in a (IIRC) Novell Bugzilla comment by the fonts team
leader Mike Fabian that openSUSE's order within its alias file was set
primarily dependent on font quality, particularly in the areas of charset
coverage, byte code and hinting. Contrast that to the other two, which leave
x-height pretty much a non-issue, seen by the separation between DejaVu Sans
and Verdana in both files.
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Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

[Christian Montoya]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Rob Schumann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> Christian Montoya wrote on 20-10-2008:
>
>  > http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/better-css-font-stacks/
>
> Back in September 2006 I wrote a piece that reached some similar
> conclusions to that above
> 
>
> At the time the use of font-size-adjust was an impractical solution due
> to it's very poor support among browsers... not even consistently across
> all platforms for firefox. I don't think much has changed in that
> regard, but would have to check to be sure.
>
> The best solution therefore was to use available resources regarding
> font availability and to plan typography around that, looking for fonts
> of similar aspect ratio with which to build your family (or stack, call
> it what you will).
>
> I've also setup tables of aspect ratios and x-widths for some common
> fonts, since aspect ratios don't give necessarily the complete picture
> (verdana and tahoma share the same aspect ratio, but differ
> significantly in x-width).
>
> 

Thanks Rob, I think that just about answers all my questions. Would it
be possible for you to update your tables with the Vista fonts?



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Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

[David Dorward]

James Farrell wrote:
> Is it necessary to put titles on links for the purpose of accessibility?
> 

No.

It can be helpful to clarify the link destination...

Webpages are generally written in http://w3.org/TR/html4/";
title="The latest HTML 4 Specification">HTML.

... but usually isn't needed for accessibility.

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Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

[Rob Schumann]

Hi Christian,

Christian Montoya wrote on 20-10-2008:

 > http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/better-css-font-stacks/

Back in September 2006 I wrote a piece that reached some similar
conclusions to that above


At the time the use of font-size-adjust was an impractical solution due
to it's very poor support among browsers... not even consistently across
all platforms for firefox. I don't think much has changed in that
regard, but would have to check to be sure.

The best solution therefore was to use available resources regarding
font availability and to plan typography around that, looking for fonts
of similar aspect ratio with which to build your family (or stack, call
it what you will).

I've also setup tables of aspect ratios and x-widths for some common
fonts, since aspect ratios don't give necessarily the complete picture
(verdana and tahoma share the same aspect ratio, but differ
significantly in x-width).



Hope these may be of some use...

Cheers


Rob


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Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

[James Farrell]

Hi Guys,

Is it necessary to put titles on links for the purpose of accessibility?


James

2008/10/21 Dave Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hello Susan,
>
> If you're doing a lot of Drupal development, and you don't already have
> it, I strongly recommend getting a copy of "Pro Drupal Development" by
> John K. VanDyk - the 6.x version of the book is ISBN: 978-1-4302-0989-8
> - there's also a previous version focusing on 5.x which is equally
> indespensible for learning the "drupal way" of doing things.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> Susan Grossman wrote:
> >
> >
> > Our core business is building sites with Drupal.  We focus on XHTML
> 1.0
> > strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New
> > Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and
> > various other considerations.  We've found Drupal to be remarkably
> > pliable with regard to those changes.
> >
> > Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will
> > definitely cause you maintenance headaches.  I would encourage you to
> > learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of
> > both theme and functionality overrides (called "hooks" in the Drupal
> > world).
> >
> >
> > ... 
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the
> > modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them.
> >
> > Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have
> > to do some changing to.  I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all
> > modules seem to be equal to me.  I'll take your suggestion and do more
> > research and see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done
> > anything in multi-site mode.
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RE: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

[Foskett, Mike]

Thanks for the replies.

That answered my question.

 

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Re: [WSG] CSS editors

[tee]

On Oct 20, 2008, at 1:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you want to save money and have an all round free open source  
editor that does CSS, PHP, javascript, and other major languages I  
would suggest notepad++.


Been using it since it was first available and haven't looked at  
anything else. Mind you, apart from Flash * GIMP, I use notepad++  
for all my web design.


This probably is off topic so I apology first, however I think it  
worths mentioning especially for the original poster to note when  
deciding which one to purchase.
I got Textmate and CSSEdit long time ago and had purchased Coda just  
some 6 months ago, the very reason for it is that I have been working  
mainly on Magento projects, and because the software runs very slow on  
local server so I have been working the files directly from the web  
server. With Coda, I can access entire remote root directory from the  
leftside of the panel, and the connection is good - 6 months, not a  
single timeout. I can only open remove file one at a time for  
Textmate, and my FTP client kept giving me timeout error.


In short, Coda is an editor with FTP , but I just love CSSEdit so much  
I continue using it with Coda. Coda comes with HTML, CSS, Javascript  
and PHP reference books so this is something very good too. You an  
even say it's a super light version of Dreamweaver.


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