Re: [WSG] E-commerce
Hi Kevin, (My apologies if this comes across as blunt).. Your question is like asking what a good overall software solution is, it all depends on requirements and target environment. If you provide some more specific information I'm sure someone can help you out. =] Rob Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Does anyone have input on what is a good Web standards e-commerce solution? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Rob Turner Company Leader www. f l e x a d a t a .com +1 415 448 7652 +61 7 3040 1337 ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org***begin:vcard fn:Rob Turner n:Turner;Rob org:Flexa Pty Ltd email;internet:r...@flexadata.com title:Company Leader tel;work:+61 7 3040 1337 tel;cell:+61 4 0115 9060 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://flexadata.com version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4
Opera 10 was unveiled already last year and do pass the web standards Acid 3 test. Safari 4 was unveiled this month. Both browsers are still in the dev stage, so I reckon Mr. Andrew Lyle was misinformed. http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/presto-2-2-and-opera-10-a-first-look/ Todd Budnikas wrote: according to Mr. Andrew Lyle: Safari 4 is the first web browser to pass the web standards Acid 3 test which demonstrates how well a browser adheres to CSS, javascript, XML and SVG. So, i'd say it's handling them pretty well :) http://acid3.acidtests.org/ On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Anyone know about how the new Safari Beta 4 is handling the current standards of the Web? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] DHTML Menus
Al Sparber wrote: ... then don't use an ancient DHTML menu that carries your links in a script file. Instead, use a modern menu that employs list-based markup and a script that visually and interactively enhances that markup, progressively and unobtrusively. Today's options in that area are many. Splurging every significant link in the site in a set of lists at the top of every page probably isn't ideal for the speed of the site, or its usability in browsers without JS (who wants to scroll through four screens of links on each page of a site)? Linking to category index pages is probably a better approach most of the time. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4
Well Webkit technically passed Acid 3 around the same time as Opera - late March '08 (28th) - but whilst Opera's Presto engine renders the final animation properly it doesn't render it smoothly, thus hasn't passed the test - so I reckon Mr Todd Budnikas was misinformed (: it's really just a pissing contest though with no relevance to the real world. it would be much more interesting to discuss IE8's compliance again. All compliant sites that I've made render fine in Safari 3 4 and FIrefox 3 but always fail to work 100% on IE... side note: I've been using Safari 4 for a couple of days and I absolutely love it - it loads and renders pages much faster than FF and JS intensive pages are faster then ever - besides, who really uses Opera anyway?! Additionally I've found Safari's developer tools indispensable and much more useful than FF's Web Dev addon, especially with tools like activity monitor and element inspectors as they have the ability to test and examine AJAX, JS and plugin content. daniel a. thornbury On 26/02/2009, at 10:34 PM, Dyre Hult wrote: Opera 10 was unveiled already last year and do pass the web standards Acid 3 test. Safari 4 was unveiled this month. Both browsers are still in the dev stage, so I reckon Mr. Andrew Lyle was misinformed. http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/presto-2-2-and-opera-10-a-first-look/ Todd Budnikas wrote: according to Mr. Andrew Lyle: Safari 4 is the first web browser to pass the web standards Acid 3 test which demonstrates how well a browser adheres to CSS, javascript, XML and SVG. So, i'd say it's handling them pretty well :) http://acid3.acidtests.org/ On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Anyone know about how the new Safari Beta 4 is handling the current standards of the Web? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[WSG] Safari 4 and 3.2 Running Simultaneously
Hi folks... I want to install Safari 4 in Microsoft Windows for testing pourposes, but I don't want to dismiss Safari 3.2. I've been searching for a solution (installing Safari 4 without affect the current installation of Safari 3.2), but I didn't find anything. I find out that the Safari 4 installation updates the Webkit Framework, not only the browser itself... so, I guess installing in a different folder won't work. I'm aware that Safari 4 includes a User Agent changer, but I guess this tool is not for rendering, only for masquerade in order to use certain webapps. Any one knows how to accomplish this goal? I'll appreciate any suggestion. Gregorio Espadas *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] DHTML Menus
From: David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk Al Sparber wrote: ... then don't use an ancient DHTML menu that carries your links in a script file. Instead, use a modern menu that employs list-based markup and a script that visually and interactively enhances that markup, progressively and unobtrusively. Today's options in that area are many. Splurging every significant link in the site in a set of lists at the top of every page probably isn't ideal for the speed of the site, or its usability in browsers without JS (who wants to scroll through four screens of links on each page of a site)? Linking to category index pages is probably a better approach most of the time. I agree wholeheartedly. In the case of menu scripts we write, this is how we'd like to see folks who use our scripts deploy them: http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm2/ug-examples/accessible/index.htm It's like those alcoholic beverage commercials where they end with a note to drink responsibly :-) -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Safari 4 and 3.2 Running Simultaneously
Sounds like a case for a virtual machine, both the Microsoft and VMWare products are free. Mike From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Brett Patterson Sent: 26 February 2009 15:21 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Safari 4 and 3.2 Running Simultaneously You might could try the custom installation when installing and then creating and naming a different folder in your Program Files folder...name it something different than the currently installed Safari browser's folder... -- Brett P. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Gregorio Espadas gespa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks... I want to install Safari 4 in Microsoft Windows for testing pourposes, but I don't want to dismiss Safari 3.2. I've been searching for a solution (installing Safari 4 without affect the current installation of Safari 3.2), but I didn't find anything. I find out that the Safari 4 installation updates the Webkit Framework, not only the browser itself... so, I guess installing in a different folder won't work. I'm aware that Safari 4 includes a User Agent changer, but I guess this tool is not for rendering, only for masquerade in order to use certain webapps. Any one knows how to accomplish this goal? I'll appreciate any suggestion. Gregorio Espadas *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] AUTO: Sarah Luscombe is out of the office. (returning Mon 03/02/2009)
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Re: [WSG] E-commerce
Kevin There have been several discussions on the list regarding ecomm systems, you might find your answers browsing the archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=ecommercel=wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org Thanks James On Thursday 26 February 2009 16:27:17 Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Does anyone have input on what is a good Web standards e-commerce solution? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] DHTML Menus
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:53 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] DHTML Menus [snip] Take, for instance, a menu that depends on the user moving the mouse over the title to cause the menu to appear. Now approach it with a keyboard - there aren't any links (in their theoretical example) for the focus to go to, so the menu can't be used - even those the client supports JavaScript. Next approach it with a touch screen (on an iPhone for example). The client supports JS. The client can click. But the client can't hover the pointer over anything. It's broken again. Then there are other arguments again them: http://www.message.uk.com/index.php?page=81 [screen reader users] have no choice but to listen to the whole darn list I'm not sure the above argument is valid since it depends how the list items are hidden, as these two different examples show: - http://tjkdesign.com/articles/new_drop_down/ - http://tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard_friendly_dropdown_menu/EK.asp -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***