Re: [WSG] Browser Check with Firefox 1.5
Hi Samuel Just for interest, I checked it in both Firefox 1.5.0.6 and Opera 9.01 on Mac OS X 10.4.9. In both cases, the page background is a red tile pattern with orange highlights. The text area appears as a very very pale red (or deep pink) surrounding a white background for the form. I hope that this is of some help. Your html code doesn't validate, which probably doesn't help. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.intrepidtravel.com %2Fafricatrees Some of your style sheets don't validate, either. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.intrepidtravel.com%2Fcss% 2Flayout_generic.csswarning=1profile=css21usermedium=all http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.intrepidtravel.com%2Fcss% 2Flayout_tripbox.csswarning=1profile=css21usermedium=all http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.intrepidtravel.com%2Fscripts%2Fyui%2Fcontainer%2Fassets% 2Fcontainer.csswarning=1profile=css21usermedium=all Although I suspect that the latter is tailored to some specific condition, like a specific browser, maybe. -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 17/04/2007, at 4:06 PM, Samuel Richardson wrote: Hi all, I’ve noticed a problem on our website when rendering pages with Firefox 1.5 (and possibly lower). If you have Firefox 1.5 installed could you please take a look at the following page: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/africatrees And let me know if the main content area renders with a black background. Has anybody encountered this rendering bug before? I think it might be related to the size of the background image being used in that content field. It’s only occurring when using Firefox 1.5 (and possibly lower), Firefox 2.0 renders that pages fine. -- Samuel Richardson 0405 472 748 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Layout Check Please (Linux / Mac)
Hi Joseph I have had a look at your site through my Mac OS X 10.4.9 browsers. + Opera 9.01 = looks fine. + Safari 2.0.4 = looks fine. + Firefox 1.5.0.6 = looks fine. + Internet Explorer 5.2.3 = Not good: Header imagery doesn't appear, including top navigation and white slogan on blue text. List text (Rooms and Rates, etc) runs off the right hand side of the page. Then again, IE 5.2 on the Mac is very old and has always been very problematic. I note that while your HTML validates, your CSS doesn't validate. This link might give you direct access to the results. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F% 2Fhomestead.foodzoomer.com% 2Freservationswarning=1profile=css21usermedium=all If not, try using a CSS validator like this one. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ Nice use of the vCard div, by the way. Your HTML code looks very clean. -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 17/04/2007, at 6:28 AM, Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: Greetings all, I was hoping some of you fine Linux / Mac users could test this layout to make sure no blowups happen. Everything SHOULD be fine, but you never know. http://homestead.foodzoomer.com/ Thanks a bunch! -- *Joseph R. B. Taylor* Sites by Joe, LLC /Custom Web Design Development/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 www.sitesbyjoe.com http://www.sitesbyjoe.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** joe.vcf *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?
Hi Tim The Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities (WANAU) is a volunteer group with no formal structure (that I know of), much like Web Standards Group. It seeks to promote Web accessibility within Australian universities. They run a mailing list [1], forums at universities [2] and generally have a 'birds of a feather' meeting at OZeWAI [3] and possibly other conferences, like AusWeb. WANAU is not from RMIT, although WANAU's 2007 Victorian forum was held at RMIT. [4] I helped organise it and I chaired it. It was well attended, with almost 100 people attending from most (if not all) Victorian universities. People seemed to like it. WANAU do not sell training courses. They don't sell anything, actually. Dey Alexander is an independent consultant. [5] She used to work for Monash University. She probably has worked with Vision Australia in the past. She has completed one review of Australian university Web sites, similar to what you describe [6], and is currently undertaking a second, to update the findings of the first review. The results will be presented this year at AusWeb. [7] [1] WANAU mailing list: http://www.wanau.org/list.html [2] WANAU forums: http://www.wanau.org/forums2007/ [3] OZeWAI conference: http://www.ozewai.org/ [4] 2007 Victorian WANAU forum: http://www.wanau.org/forums2007/ melbourne.html [5] Dey Alexander Consulting: http://www.deyalexander.com/ [6] Alexander Dey, 30 Jan 2004, How Accessible Are Australian University Web Sites?, Ariadne 38, http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/ issue38/web-watch/ [7] AusWeb: http://ausweb.scu.edu.au/ -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 11/04/2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim wrote: On 11/04/2007, at 9:41 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we’ve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any feedback! Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Don't be conned Susie, Who are this group, what have they done in previous forums since 2004. Where was it held last year? Who attended last year? I bet they are selling training courses, seen in links to a business case on the W3C site.. Funny that they are from RMIT yet there is no action at their own University. Multiple page errors. Fix your own Uni pages first. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmit.edu.au%2F They do have a few different stylesheets, but the changes between them are minor colour changes. I thought Dey Alexander was working with Vision Australia who to me seem to accept low government standards to get training contracts from AGIMO. Following Maquire v Sydney Olympics, who does any legal advocation for the blind apart from myself? This group may want to sell you training contracts. http:// www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html#visaust Bloody hell I work hard on testing Australian sites including Universities who should know better, what is WANAU, what have they done. With a few dollars funding I could review all Australian Universities and have a reference page showing those who fail and why, what else do you need, fund me to complete a review of University webpages and forget the talkfest. Australian sites are in a bad way, few Universities know what accessibility is. http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html ANU fails RMIT fails Sydney Fail Swinburne fails I have done dozens reviews of Australian government websites and advocated a legal position to HREOC. what has WANAU done apart from make a few webpages? Yours Faithfully Tim Anderson The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Editor Heretic Press http://www.hereticpress.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Fwd: [LINK] One Laptop per Child
I thought that WSG'ers might be interested in this view of the One Laptop per Child project. Liddy Nevile was at the launch last week, and will be working on a project in Bangledesh next year, I think. Begin forwarded message: From: Liddy Nevile Date: 21 November 2005 10:56:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [LINK] One Laptop per Child One important way of thinking about the 'green machine' is as a book. They will be able to provide kids with lots of stuff to read and it is expected that in some cases that will be all they will need to do to be very useful in places where textbooks are not available. It might also please some Linkers to know that by avoiding greedy operating systems, the number of winds per hour is being reduced. There is also a new approach to screens. I think that a lot of people will benefit from just these two developments. I personally look forward to children, in Australia and elsewhere, getting computers that are not business machines but rather designed for kids ... and adults can explore the kind of software likely to be available by trying Squeak (http://www.squeak.org/), a modern 'SmallTalk' language developed by Alan Kay and his colleagues and and Scratch (http://web.media.mit.edu/~mres/papers/scratch-proposal.pdf), a new language being developed by Mitchel Resnick and his colleagues building on Squeak. Liddy ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] $100 laptop WAS: why liquid layout is important.
On 21/11/2005, at 2:23 PM, Christian Montoya wrote: On 11/20/05, Herrod, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the idea of the $100 laptop is to 'work with developing nations' to provide low cost access to knowledge via the Internet. What I'm doing is putting this out to our community to see who is interested in being involved in a project like this. Naturally we would need to discuss exactly what it means, but in a nutshell, finding a way in which we can contribute and give something back. We all work on the web and reap the benefits of it daily and I have seen first hand (in Indonesia) the impact knowledge and access to the web can have. It's incredibly empowering. Happy to continue this discussion but not sure if this is the right place... Is this OT? I think it is on topic. I'm interested in hearing ideas other WSG members have for making something like this work. My concern for MIT's project is whether or not internet access will be managed by the governments in some of these countries. At the moment, the computers form a 'mesh' network (wireless, I think) with one another. I don't know if this includes any other network-aware objects that are around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_mesh_network The project is looking at ways to hook them into the Internet. It's difficult, because some of these places don't have reliable power or telecommunications links. http://laptop.media.mit.edu/ Google is part of it, and Google has already followed China's wishes to censor content on searches in China. How valuable is the internet to users in China, compared to users in countries where access is unrestricted? Will these children in the countries MIT is targeting be using a managed, censored network, or will they be able to learn about things their government might not want them to know about? ... I will leave the question of no Internet access vs. controlled Internet access to others, preferably off this list. Perhaps the Link mailing list (or similar) might be a better place to discuss that. Jonathan O'Donnell http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] RapidWeaver?
Hi Richard Thanks for your phone call. The Rapid Weaver software is at: http://realmacsoftware.com/rapidweaver/index.php It costs $40- (presumably US$). I didn't realise that, but it looks like the download is a demo version. If we like it, we can pay for it in January, maybe. I am downloading it, and will play with it early next year. I am very excited about the Freedom of Information project. My contact details are below: -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 04/11/2005, at 1:37 PM, Christian Montoya wrote: Has anyone used this before: http://realmacsoftware.com/rapidweaver/index.php I stumbled across it today (was compulsively checking source of some site and found a comment that said produced by RapidWeaver... and the markup was relatively clean, so I googled it), seems... not too bad for a WYSIWYGish app, in terms of code and whatever. Although it looks like it's just meant to publish stuff, rather than create styles. Still, in that role it could potentially be useful in lieu of a standards-compliant web-based WYSIWYG editor for clients. Obviously the platform (Mac OS X) restricts application somewhat. :-( I'm interested to hear if anyone's encountered/had any dealings with it, though. The site showcase ( http://realmacsoftware.com/rapidweaver/rwshowcase/index.php ) is a pretty good indicator... most of the sites have 0 errors. It throws in a few extra br's and span's, and some sites lack a doctype, but otherwise it's clean. Looks like a neat tool. -- -- C Montoya rdpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] $100 laptop WAS: why liquid layout is important.
On 21/11/2005, at 2:40 PM, Herrod, Lisa wrote: ... I worked in indonesia for a short time teaching basic internet skills to a very poor school for deaf children. if they can pick up HTML, (which, remember is in english) taught by someone with basic indonesian and little Indo sign language, imagine what they can do with propper support! our main issue was that of the 6 or 7 computers they had, each had completely different o/s, browser, software etc. they could not afford to access the internet or visit an internet cafe (though we did find the funds for 2 visits). They picked it up so quickly and in a couple of weeks were creating small web sites. the kids were aged between 11 and 18. They were clearly amazed at what they were doing. Education and knowledge is very empowering, particularly for people considered 'disabled' and in a third world country. In the mid-nineties, Charles McCathieNevile did some great stuff with the 'CD with a hole' concept. The idea was to put tutorials, free software and examples onto a CD. The CD was accompanied by a floppy per person. People used the CDs to build stand alone Web pages, which were then saved to their floppy. At semi-regular gatherings, the contents of the floppys could be uploaded to a Web server. The contents of the server were then burnt to a new version of the CD, which each person took away with them. This allowed people in remote aboriginal communities (for example) to build Web sites, even though they had little or no access to the regular Web. People can do a great deal with very little access. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari not loading website
Hello Lakshmi I am using Mac OS X 10.3.9, so I thought that I would document the problem. I'm not a JavaScript/EcmaScript bunny, so I'm afraid I can't do more than that. Hopefully someone else on the list can point you to a fix. The problem is real. When you use javascript:OpenAttachmentWithFullPath, Safari tries to point to localhost, rather than the base path. As a test page, I used: http://www.agd.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/Corporate/ll_corporate.nsf/ vwPreviewActivePages/attorney_generals_department_court_recording I tried to download something that uses javascript:OpenAttachment: Same_Day_Transcript_Newcastle_Order_Form_text.doc And something that uses javascript:OpenAttachmentWithFullPath: /Lawlink/Corporate/ll_corporate.nsf/vwFiles/ Transcript_fees_RSB2005.doc/$file/Transcript_fees_RSB2005.doc First, I check that the page was valid: http://validator.w3.org/ It wasn't. You can see the results at: http://validator.w3.org/check? uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.agd.nsw.gov.au%2Flawlink%2FCorporate%2Fll_corporate .nsf%2FvwPreviewActivePages%2Fattorney_generals_department_court_recordi ng Then I tried to replicate the problem with various browsers: javascript:OpenAttachment Firefox 1.0.6: OK Safari 1.3.1: OK Opera 8.5: OK Internet Explorer 5.2.3: OK javascript:OpenAttachmentWithFullPath Firefox 1.0.6: OK Safari 1.3.1: Fail! Opera 8.5: OK Internet Explorer 5.2.3: OK Sure enough, when I tried to download using javascript:OpenAttachmentWithFullPath on Safari 1.3.1, I received the error message: Safari can’t open the page “http://localhost/Lawlink/Corporate/ll_corporate.nsf/vwFiles… anscript_fees_RSB2005.doc/$file/Transcript_fees_RSB2005.doc” because it could not connect to the server “localhost”. -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 17/11/2005, at 10:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! All I am the web production officer at Attorny General's . I have received feedback from Mac users using Safari to browse are unable to download attachments. The errors message that they get is Safari can't find the server, can't find the Domain name?. We are using relative links in Javascript to open the attachments. Could please anyone shed light on what might be causing this. Our website is built on Lotus Notes. Thanks! Lakshmi Satyanarayana Web Production Officer Web Services Information Technology Services Attorney General's Department Tel: +612 9228 8417 Mo: 0403111907 Fax: +612 9228 8269 Ex: 88417 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privil eged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this communication. If you have received this message in error please delete the email and notify the s ender. Web Site http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Wild metadata
Hawking (Panoptic, CSIRO), 30 May 2005, Poor search facilities cost money - is metadata the answer? DC-ANZ 2005, http://es.csiro.au/Presentations/Hawking_DC-ANZ.pdf (accessed 13 November 2005). [2] David Hawking and Justin Zobel, (Panoptic, CSIRO), Forthcoming, Does Topic Metadata Help with Web Search?, Journal of the American Society for Information Science and Technology (JASIST). -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders
On 14/11/2005, at 11:31 AM, Bert Doorn wrote: Is it really necessary for accessibility to include default place-holding characters in edit boxes and text areas per WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 10.4? Is that an obsolete guideline? ... Have we reached (or largely reached) the until user agents stage yet? What implications is ignoring this guideline likely to have (other than not getting tick marks from various automated tools), given I use properly coded labels and (where needed) fieldsets for the inputs? It seems crazy to repeat the label text (or slightly amended info) in the input for people to overwrite (and some will perhaps leave it in there!) Leaving it there can be a problem. I have seen a demonstration (at a Melbourne WSG meeting, no less) where the agent placed the cursor at the end of the place-holding text without reading it. There is a real danger that the user will enter text without knowing that the place-holding text is there. 10.4 has been deprecated in the WCAG 2.0 Working Draft, if that helps any. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/06/30-mapping.html But it's only draft, remember. -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders
On 14/11/2005, at 1:02 PM, Bert Doorn wrote: ... I might settle on adding value= (space) - shouldn't be hard to change my scripts to strip leading spaces when checking if a field has been completed. ... Hi Bert I would have thought that you would want to make your scripts check for leading _and trailing_ spaces. Mouse users will often click into the start of a field. When they enter text, they will end up with a trailing space. Jonathan -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Naked metadata - RDF in HTML
Hi Ian, Liddy, Charles, Peter, Misha, Alan, Patrick, Andy, Geoff, DC-General and WSG Thank you for all your help and comments. In particular, thank you, Ian, for RDF in HTML. Last week, I wrote to the DC-General and the Web Standards Group mailing lists. I was lamenting the fact that Dublin Core metadata needed to be embedded in the head of the Web page, and that people often didn't update the metadata when they updated the Web page. I proposed a half-baked idea, and asked for comments. Everyone was extremely helpful, and gave me really valuable feedback. I learnt a lot. ** RDF in HTML ** In particular, I learnt that RDF in HTML [1] will do exactly what I want. It provides a valid way to embed Dublin Core (or other) metadata in the Web page. I can use class attributes, so it is CSS-friendly. It can be harvested using a Gleaning Resource Descriptions from Dialects of Languages [2] (GRDDL)-aware harvester. And Ian has built a GRDDL-aware harvester, Embedded RDF Extractor, [3] that I can use to test my pages. Now, I have built a page, and it works! http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod/tutorial/naked-metadata.html If anyone would like to have a look at it, I would appreciate feedback. Have I got it right? Are there things that I could be doing better? ** XHTML2 ** And Misha pointed out that XHTML2 [4] deals with this very nicely. In XHTML2, meta elements can appear in the body of the document, not just the head and any element can link to them. So, once again, thanks everybody. The Internet continues to blow my mind! ** References ** [1] RDF in HTML: http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/wiki/Main/RdfInHtml [2] Gleaning Resource Descriptions from Dialects of Languages (GRDDL): http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec [3] Embedded RDF Extractor: http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/extract [4] eXtensible HyperText Markup Language 2 (XHTML2): http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2 -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Naked metadata
Hi WSG'ers After seeing Sarah's post about CSS for titles, I thought that people might be interested in this idea. It's a half baked idea. If you have any comments or suggestions, I would love to hear them. Apologies for those who have already seen this on the DC-General list. ** The problem ** People updating Web pages often doesn't update the metadata in the header. ** The solution ** Tag appropriate Web data with id attributes. Point to the data from the appropriate metadata field in the header. ** Example ** !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head titleNaked Metadata/title meta name=DC.title content=#title / meta name=DC.creator content=#creator / meta name=DC.creator content=#rights / /head body h1 id=titleNaked Metadata/h1 h2 id=creatorJonathan O'Donnell/h2 p id=rightshttp://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod/tutorial/metadata.html copy; Jonathan O'Donnell 23 October 2005/p /body /html ** Background ** At DC-ANZ 2005, Eve Young and Baden Hughes made the point that people updating Web pages often don't update the metadata. One of of the problems that they talked about was that metadata in the header is essentially invisible to people editing the page (when, for example, using some wysiwyg editors). In general, data (including metadata) should be stored in one place only. This prevents drift: if it is only stored in one place, it can only be updated in that place. Often, the information that we want to store as metadata already appears in the Web page. Examples include the title, description (especially as opening paragraph) and the author's name. In footers, we often find rights information, the URL, and date information. If this information already exists in the data, and we replicate it in the metadata, there is the danger of drift. Perhaps pointing to the data from the metadata fields is a way of preventing drift, and ensuring that the metadata is as up-to-date as the data. ** Method ** In html (including xhtml), one way of doing this is to use id attributes. Many Web developers use these already to style particular aspects of a Web site. They can also be used as a target anchor for hypertext links For example, if you use this tag: p id=rightscopy; Jonathan 2005/p in the page: http://example.net/foo.html Then the URL http://example.net/foo.html#rights will point to that paragraph. ** Advantages ** + Metadata sits with the data. + As data is updated, the metadata continues to be current. ** Disadvantages ** + id attributes must be unique within a Web page. -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
