[WSG] OT - Opera 9.5 Released
Hi everyone, Just a quick note to say that Opera 9.5 has been officially released (sporting a lovely new black theme too). www.opera.com Also, Opera Mini 4.1 has been released: direct your mobiles to mini.opera.com for the download. Cheers, Steve *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Conditional styles not being used on first-run
Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with an element I've created for my current project. It's basically a styled rounded-corner box with a title (it looks like a fieldset but is correctly structured HTML). To get all my padding working correctly I'm using conditional styles for IE6, but some users are reporting that they have to refresh their screens (press F5) in IE before the positioning works correctly! Have any of you heard of this before? Is there a way around it? Any recommendations? Many thanks, Steve Workman PA Consulting Group 123 Buckingham Palace Road London SW1W 9SR United Kingdom Direct dial: +44 207 881 3732 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.paconsulting.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Web Standards and Design Patterns in Web Applications
Hi Anthony, I've always found through usability testing, that people use the highest level of navigation to get back to the start of a task (generally the tabs). Using the first pattern plus a body ID and CSS to highlight the current tab (and remove the a:hover cursor) will give the same effect as removing the link whilst allowing users to click on the tab if required (which they almost certainly will do). If you use the second pattern, be sure there's a link to the top-level of navigation inside that page, or a user will have to visit a different section in order to get back to the top level of the section they're in. Steve On 12/05/2008, Anthony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any guides to developing standards based/accessible web applications like Basecamp ? For example a common pattern for website navigation is the tab list of links ul lia href ...Cats/li lia href ...Dogs/li lia href ...Mice/li /ul However web applications often copy the navigation pattern from desktop apps of having the tab to the resource your viewing not a link # .dogs.htm ul lia href ...Cats/li liemDogs/em/li lia href ...Mice/li /ul Is the second pattern acceptable ? Other questions on building web standards applications might be : how do you direct assistive device users to errors in forms or how do you handle ajax updates to items on the page. Any thoughts/blog posts/podcasts on the subject welcome. Tony *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Reset the styles on a submit button with CSS
The style background:none is in reference to the background-image
property, which is why it doesn't work.
background:transparent seems to be the most likely candidate as this relates
to the background-color property but there doesn't seem to be a
background:default setting which would be very useful for your case.
I know it's not brilliant, but perhaps you should apply the stylings the
other way around, leave the general inputs unstyled and apply the class to
all other elements. Either that or style the submit buttons yourself with a
custom background image.
Steve
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On 06/05/2008, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Here's an odd one I can't seem to solve. I had to style all input
fields in a form with a black background, white text. Rather than give
them a class, I've just given all inputs this styling
EG: input {background:#000; color:#FFF;}
My issue is that the submit buttons now have this styling also in
certain browsers. I'd like to give them a class and set them back to
their original look, but background:none; doesn't work. Is there a way
of doing this does anyone know?
I am aware that I could give every field a class and add the black
background to that, but I'd like to do it the other way around and
only have a class for the buttons, less classy!
Any ideas?
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Re: [WSG] Browser Text Resizing and the Ill Effects It May Cause
Kevin, It's good practice to allow for users to be able to scale the text size as they choose. For a really good example, look at the Yahoo TV website that WaSP recommended http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/01/yahoo-uk-ireland-tv-relaunch/ A large amount of older users have their default font size set heigher than the browser default. This can be for any number of reasons (sight problems, general preference) so you should accomodate them all for your site to be truely accessible. Having your website break because the project board chairman has his font size set high is not a good position to be in. So, as a general rule, allow for people to scale text sizes, and make sure your site doesn't break too badly! Steve Steve Workman PA Consulting Group www.paconsulting.com www.steel-software.com On 03/03/2008, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, Personally, I have my sites set to scale the text/pictures up/down based on what the user chooses to do. The way I figure it, if they need to put the font down to 8 Point type... That's there choice. I make all my sites liquid for that reason, everything just fits together as best as it can depending on browser size, screen resolution, user preference, etc. etc. etc. Just my 2ยข :) On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: Hello, I am trying to realize the weight of users being able to increase and/or decrease the text size in their browser and the ill effects it has on the design and usability of our sites. Is this something other designers are concerned about and have found solutions? Are we responsible if the user distorts the normal viewing of our site? How far do we go to cover this? Thank you, Kevin Erickson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 3251 132nd ave Holland, MI, 49424-9337 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
