Re: [WSG] Flash and Validation
I have some problem with this method when I use this in ASP files. The IIS engine attempts parsing this embeded object element and returns error DO NOT EMBED OBJECT ELEMENTS. I cannot understand why client side code - HTML - makes service side error. So I use this method like following way in ASP project. !-- Hixie method -- !--[if IE] object classid="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-44455354">"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-44455354" codebase="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=7,0,0,0">"http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=7,0,0,0" width="900" height="80" id="flash_movie" align="middle" param name="movie" value="/images/swf/main_menu.swf" / param name="wmode" value="transparent" / /object ![endif]-- !-- Hixie method -- !--[if !IE] -- object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="/images/swf/main_menu.swf" width="900" height="80" param name="wmode" value="transparent" / /object !-- ![endif]-- morten fjellman wrote: Hi. I have used the following code for a couple of years now, and have never had any problems with it. object classid="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354">"clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354" codebase=""http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" width="762" height="118" param name="movie" value=" header.swf" / param name="quality" value="high" / !--[if !IE] -- object data="" width="762" height="118" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" param name="quality" value="high" / param name="pluginurl" value="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer " / ERROR! There is supposed to be Flash content here. /object !-- ![endif]-- /object The width, height and path to the swf are just example values. Same with the Error text. Regards Morten Fjellman On 12/12/05, Richard Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One way of getting round the problem is to use _javascript_ to add the flash to a valid document using DOM _javascript_. Have a look at Bobby van der Sluis's UFO http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/ Richard -- DonkeyMagic: Website design development http://www.donkeymagic.co.uk On 12/12/05, Joseph R. B. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys and Gals, A problem I have ignored all too long is Flash and XHTML.The problem lies in the embed tag and its attributes of course.I have of course read the alistapart articles on how they have taken steps to make valid code, but I have still found problems in Opera etc when using their methods. I wonder how you guys code in your flash on your pages - let me know! Thanks, Joe Taylor http://sitesbyjoe.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash and Validation
On Dec 12, 2005, at 10:18 AM, morten fjellman wrote: I have used the following code for a couple of years now, and have never had any problems with it. object ... !--[if !IE] -- object data=header.swf ... /object !-- ![endif]-- /object I'm about to launch a site using a slightly enhanced form of this technique, based on Hixie's method: !--[if IE] object width=89 height=13 type=application/x-shockwave-flash codebase=http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/ swflash.cab#version=7,0,0,0 param name=movie value=/swf/audio.swf / param name=flashvars value=code=Van_Vorst_Park / ![endif]--!--[if !IE]-- object type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=89 height=13 data=/swf/audio.swf?code=Van_Vorst_Park !--![endif]-- a href=/Film/Van_Vorst_Park/audioblog_1.mp3img src=/img/text/ buttons/audioblog.gif width=89 height=13 alt=audioblog //a /object The enhancement is mostly some combined redundancies, and an alternate content viewable by IE. (Morten's version hides the inner object and therefore its alternate from IE.) The only problems I've found with variants of Hixie's method do not apply to my site, but may apply to you. Safari apparently does not read the param values of an object tag. (Please let me know if I'm misinterpreting its symptoms.) This means that flashvars need to be passed in the url (bad for caching), and that things like bgcolor or wmode need to be set as attributes within the object tag. Such proprietary attributes, of course, invalidate the tag. -- Ben Curtis : webwright bivia : a personal web studio http://www.bivia.com v: (818) 507-6613 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Flash and Validation
Guys and Gals, A problem I have ignored all too long is Flash and XHTML. The problem lies in the embed tag and its attributes of course. I have of course read the alistapart articles on how they have taken steps to make valid code, but I have still found problems in Opera etc when using their methods. I wonder how you guys code in your flash on your pages - let me know! Thanks, Joe Taylor http://sitesbyjoe.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash and Validation
I use this: http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding- flashobject-best-practices/ Guys and Gals, A problem I have ignored all too long is Flash and XHTML. The problem lies in the embed tag and its attributes of course. I have of course read the alistapart articles on how they have taken steps to make valid code, but I have still found problems in Opera etc when using their methods. I wonder how you guys code in your flash on your pages - let me know! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash and Validation
Hi.I have used the following code for a couple of years now, and have never had any problems with it.object classid="">codebase="" href="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0width=762 height=118param name=movie value= header.swf / param name=quality value=high /!--[if !IE] --object data=""> width=762 height=118 type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=quality value=high /param name=pluginurl value=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer /ERROR! There is supposed to be Flash content here./object!-- ![endif]-- /objectThe width, height and path to the swf are just example values. Same with the Error text. Regards Morten FjellmanOn 12/12/05, Richard Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One way of getting round the problem is to use _javascript_ to add theflash to a valid document using DOM _javascript_. Have a look at Bobbyvan der Sluis's UFOhttp://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/ Richard--DonkeyMagic: Website design developmenthttp://www.donkeymagic.co.ukOn 12/12/05, Joseph R. B. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys and Gals, A problem I have ignored all too long is Flash and XHTML.The problem lies in the embed tag and its attributes of course.I have of course read the alistapart articles on how they have taken steps to make valid code, but I have still found problems in Opera etc when using their methods. I wonder how you guys code in your flash on your pages - let me know! Thanks, Joe Taylor http://sitesbyjoe.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**
[WSG] Flash Standards Validation
I am setting up a site that requires flash but i notice that some of the needed tags for some browsers are not valid... Can anyone tell me the valid code... Te last one I tried did not work well with IE5.5 or less... Thanks -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun @ www.olajideolaolorun.com ...ain't nothing impossible unless you make it... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Standards Validation
Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 12:50:34 PM, Olajide wrote: Can anyone tell me the valid code... Te last one I tried did not work well with IE5.5 or less. It's really difficult to do all three of: 1. Check for the flash plugin 2. Use a valid method to load the flash object 3. Stream the flash I've not managed to do all three at once. My workaround is to load a tiny flash file to do 1. and 2. and then load the main flash object to do 2. and 3. But I don't like Flash anyway. -- Iain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Standards Validation
I am still trying to learn flash the main program but for now I just use Swish Max for some small effects and later try to learn flash when I have finished everyhting in my hand... -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun @ www.olajideolaolorun.com ...ain't nothing impossible unless you make it... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Standards Validation
try: bodypValid Flash example for XHTML 1.0 Strict/pp object type=application/x-shockwave-flash data=abc.swf width=355 height=282 param name=movie value=extro6.swf / img src=abc.gif width=355 height=282 alt=banner / /object/p /body should validate to XHTML 1.0 Strict. best regards johannes - Original Message - From: Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: [WSG] Flash Standards Validation I am setting up a site that requires flash but i notice that some of the needed tags for some browsers are not valid... Can anyone tell me the valid code... Te last one I tried did not work well with IE5.5 or less... Thanks -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun @ www.olajideolaolorun.com ...ain't nothing impossible unless you make it... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Standards Validation
the noraml embed tag will choke on validation as it is a depreciated tag several ppl have added the work around already what i do for flash checking is this open up flash and change the canvas size to 1 pixel by 1 pixel and in the actionscript i just add this line of code getURL (main.html) in this case main.html is my main page and export it in the lowest version of flash that u will accept in your site, u use 6. then on the index page where u want flash checked u add the movie 1st thing then after that u add the code for getting or upgrade your flash now, i also add lots of search engine goodies on that page so what happens is that when the page is loaded if the user has at least flash 6 then it redirects them to the main page if not the movie wont be processed and will show the add/upgrade page make sense? -- Original Message -- From: Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:50:34 -0500 I am setting up a site that requires flash but i notice that some of the needed tags for some browsers are not valid... Can anyone tell me the valid code... Te last one I tried did not work well with IE5.5 or less... Thanks -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun @ www.olajideolaolorun.com ...ain't nothing impossible unless you make it... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Standards Validation
Hi, As I've not had a strong cup of Earl Grey this morning, this reply could be as useful as (2) left shoes, but the following url has a pretty solid standards compliant flash-embed method: http://blog.deconcept.com/2004/10/14/web-standards-compliant- javascript-flash-detect-and-embed/ C On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, at 05:47 AM, csslist wrote: the noraml embed tag will choke on validation as it is a depreciated tag several ppl have added the work around already what i do for flash checking is this open up flash and change the canvas size to 1 pixel by 1 pixel and in the actionscript i just add this line of code getURL (main.html) in this case main.html is my main page and export it in the lowest version of flash that u will accept in your site, u use 6. then on the index page where u want flash checked u add the movie 1st thing then after that u add the code for getting or upgrade your flash now, i also add lots of search engine goodies on that page so what happens is that when the page is loaded if the user has at least flash 6 then it redirects them to the main page if not the movie wont be processed and will show the add/upgrade page make sense? -- Original Message -- From: Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:50:34 -0500 I am setting up a site that requires flash but i notice that some of the needed tags for some browsers are not valid... Can anyone tell me the valid code... Te last one I tried did not work well with IE5.5 or less... Thanks -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun @ www.olajideolaolorun.com ...ain't nothing impossible unless you make it... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ___ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Standards Validation
This is a really intresting topic because you would think that Macromedia or W3C will agree on something -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun @ www.olajideolaolorun.com ...ain't nothing impossible unless you make it... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
