Re: [WSG] Footer Solution

2004-11-11 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi,
You understood the question. I was attempting to ask is the placement 
code as efficient as it could be, before moving on to typography. TOn 
Thursday, November 11, 2004, at 02:20 PM, Lachlan Hardy wrote:

Chris Kennon wrote:
Have I arrived at  the semantically correct solution for placing the 
footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the 
core CSS  have semantic credence.
I'm not sure that I quite understand your questions, Chris
I can't see how semantics have a place in the positioning of any 
element. The term 'semantics' when bandied about in standards-based 
web design (as it often is) refers to using markup tags for the 
purpose for which they were intended, ie using  tags instead of 
simply making bold a particular bit of text and making it bigger

Sorry, if I've missed the point and I'm teaching you how to suck eggs 
(what does that expression mean, anyway?)

On the other hand, I think that is an excellent solution for placing a 
footer. I use it all the time (probably why I think it is excellent, 
no?) and it works beautifully

Again, when it comes to the 'semantic credence' of your CSS, I'm not 
sure that CSS can be said to have semantics. Except possibly in terms 
of the IDs you have used. Certainly I attempt to steer clear of using 
IDs such as 'column1' and 'column2'. I prefer to describe the purpose 
of that block of content, ie 'maincontent' and 'subcontent'. This 
helps if I decide to move the content around later

This doesn't hold any real semantics, but I find it neater and more in 
fitting with the concept of semantic code as I understand it

Cheers,
Lachlan
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Re: [WSG] Footer Solution

2004-11-11 Thread Iva Koberg
Hi Chris,
I would probably try to find more semantically meaningful names for 
"column1", "column2" because the names as they are describe the visual 
presentation rather than the content or structure. An example may be 
"content-region1" or "feature1" - not great, but better [especially if 
you decide to rearrange the columns or make them rows later :) ]  
Perhaps something like "main-content" vs. "sidebar" would be suitable. 
As your template contains lorem ipsum text for columns of equal width, 
it's hard to tell if this makes sense for your site, my advice would be 
to just find names that describe the content better in the context of 
your site.

Good luck,
Iva.
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Chris Kennon wrote:
Hi,
Have I arrived at  the semantically correct solution for placing the 
footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the 
core CSS  have semantic credence.

http://working.ckimedia.com/index.php
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Re: [WSG] Footer Solution

2004-11-11 Thread Lachlan Hardy
Chris Kennon wrote:
Have I arrived at  the semantically correct solution for placing the 
footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the 
core CSS  have semantic credence.
I'm not sure that I quite understand your questions, Chris
I can't see how semantics have a place in the positioning of any 
element. The term 'semantics' when bandied about in standards-based web 
design (as it often is) refers to using markup tags for the purpose for 
which they were intended, ie using  tags instead of simply making 
bold a particular bit of text and making it bigger

Sorry, if I've missed the point and I'm teaching you how to suck eggs 
(what does that expression mean, anyway?)

On the other hand, I think that is an excellent solution for placing a 
footer. I use it all the time (probably why I think it is excellent, 
no?) and it works beautifully

Again, when it comes to the 'semantic credence' of your CSS, I'm not 
sure that CSS can be said to have semantics. Except possibly in terms of 
the IDs you have used. Certainly I attempt to steer clear of using IDs 
such as 'column1' and 'column2'. I prefer to describe the purpose of 
that block of content, ie 'maincontent' and 'subcontent'. This helps if 
I decide to move the content around later

This doesn't hold any real semantics, but I find it neater and more in 
fitting with the concept of semantic code as I understand it

Cheers,
Lachlan
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[WSG] Footer Solution

2004-11-11 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi,
Have I arrived at  the semantically correct solution for placing the 
footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the 
core CSS  have semantic credence.

http://working.ckimedia.com/index.php
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