Re: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Thank you, Gentlemen, for your help. It is very much appreciated !On the topic of the IE6 specific rules... !--[if lte IE 6]
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![endif]--... is there a way to put that whole section in my Style sheet file? Or in a seperate file so I can maintain the rules centrally? Regards,Kevin.
On 3/8/06, Jason Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE bugs */ That is a bit radical... giving all those element 'layout' can possibly cause more problems than it fixes.
In this case: /* - hide form IE Mac - \*/ * html #content_contain {height:1%} /* - end hiding - */ ought to do nicely. (and served only to IE 6 and below. That 3px jog thing is reportedly
fixed in IE 7 alpha0).Your right Philippe it is radical, I added to styles within IE conditionalcomments that already existed.Philippe has a point about IE7, currently your conditional comments target
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Re: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Kevin Ross wrote: On the topic of the IE6 specific rules... !--[if lte IE 6] ... ... ![endif]-- ... is there a way to put that whole section in my Style sheet file? The conditional comment needs to go within the HTML, since it is an HTML comment. There are no conditional comments in CSS. You could place it in an include file of some sort, which gets included in every file. For that, you could use SSI or, if you're using PHP, ASP, JSP, or something like that, you can use their own include functionality. -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Kevin Ross wrote: is there a way to put that whole section in my Style sheet file? Or in a seperate file so I can maintain the rules centrally? Move all your styles into a CSS file ie6.css and just link to the style sheet as you normally would but within the conditional comment !--[if lte IE 6] link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen href=ie6.css / ![endif]-- Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
... is there a way to put that whole section in my Style sheet file? Or in a seperate file so I can maintain the rules centrally? That's pretty much the rub of it all, for me! :) If only Microsoft had created a proprietary comment system for CSS, at least it would have been useful without so many downsides. Ben -- --- http://www.200ok.com.au/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
At 08:23 PM 3/8/2006, Ben Buchanan wrote: That's pretty much the rub of it all, for me! :) If only Microsoft had created a proprietary comment system for CSS, at least it would have been useful without so many downsides. That so typifies Microsoft's schizophrenia. They're such a large organization, they must have hundreds if not thousands of creative directions happening simultaneously: hordes of brilliant geeks, impossible to wrangle. It's such a shame that they weren't on the web standards page early enough to foresee the importance of separating presentation from content from logic. Convert the latest Word or Excel document to HTML and you'll see the worst practices rampant. Earlier this century I scrambled from the leaky rowboat of ASP onto the running board of the steam locomotive of ASP.Net, then immediately realized I was only penetrating farther into the murky tunnel of death. The .Net technology seemed to merge logic with markup and style even more densely than before, keyed particularly to IE's quirks, making it more difficult, not easier, to achieve decent web standards with Microsoft's proprietary technology. Who knows, perhaps I was short-sighted and those who have plunged deeply into .Net have found ways to separate them cleanly, but I don't for a moment regret my decision to leap from the sinking Microsoft tanker to the skimming PHP skiff. PHP doesn't require clean separation but it sure as hell helps us achieve it. I wonder how our work would be different today if the designers of CSS had foreseen the chaos that's resulted from our trying to get styles to work cross-browser. Would they have built browser-version-conditional branching into CSS? I doubt it. Browser-sniffers are only as dependable as the browsers' willingness not to spoof, which is to say not much. And we'd still be hacking our way around browsers written early enough not to know how to respond to the conditional branching. Back to square one. It's unnerving to realize that the crazy-quilt world we live in may actually be the best of all probable worlds. Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Hi,I have a question about something IE6 is doing that Firefox1.5 is not. (I know... no surprise !)I have checked, but must have overlooked the solution to this one...On this page... http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.htmlIE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings (Paragraph starting Rudy's...)Is this to do with the thumbnail to the left? Thanks for the help. I really enjoy reading the posts here... very informative !Regards,Kevin.
RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Kevin wrote On this page... http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings Hi Kevin Adding a couple extra pixels to the #content_home right margin should fix things up. Regards Scott Swabey Design Development Director Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com www.thought-after.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Kevin Ross wrote:
http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html
IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings
(Paragraph starting Rudy's...)
Is this to do with the thumbnail to the left?
Known as the 3 pixel text-jog
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html
Easily fixed by adding #content_home to the IE specific style you have
already:
ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE bugs */
Regards
Jason
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Re: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
On Mar 8, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Jason Turnbull wrote:
http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html
IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings
(Paragraph starting Rudy's...)
Is this to do with the thumbnail to the left?
Known as the 3 pixel text-jog
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html
Easily fixed by adding #content_home to the IE specific style you have
already:
ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE
bugs */
That is a bit radical... giving all those element 'layout' can
possibly cause more problems than it fixes.
In this case:
/* - hide form IE Mac - \*/
* html #content_contain {height:1%}
/* - end hiding - */
ought to do nicely.
(and served only to IE 6 and below. That 3px jog thing is reportedly
fixed in IE 7 alpha0).
Philippe
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RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE
bugs */
That is a bit radical... giving all those element 'layout' can
possibly cause more problems than it fixes.
In this case:
/* - hide form IE Mac - \*/
* html #content_contain {height:1%}
/* - end hiding - */
ought to do nicely.
(and served only to IE 6 and below. That 3px jog thing is reportedly
fixed in IE 7 alpha0).
Your right Philippe it is radical, I added to styles within IE conditional
comments that already existed.
Philippe has a point about IE7, currently your conditional comments target
all versions of IE and should only need IE6 and below: !--[if lte IE 6]
Regards
JAson
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