Re: [WSG] META tag standards?
Best to use lowercase when you are not sure, but there is not realy a standard for it so far I know.. ;) check also the Meta Tag Analyzer http://www.widexl.com/remote/search-engines/metatag-analyzer.html Its more for keywords and stuff but they have a view tips Also a list of best meta tags to use and taken in by spiders writen by Ben Wiggy: Part1: http://www.benwiggy.com/webdev/metatagtutorial.php Part2: http://www.benwiggy.com/webdev/metatagtutorial_2.php Greetings, Jack Gene Falck wrote: Hi everyone, I've been prowling around in our resources and in Google but I haven't found this. (As usual, I may just not know what to call my question.) I understand about using lower case for tags and attributes in XHTML (leaving content capitalization unspecified to accommodate a wide range of strings) but haven't seen anything on those value items that seem to be relatively frequent and "standard" items. For instance, I see the following variants in the capitalization of values: meta http-equiv="Content-Type" ... meta http-equiv="Content-type" ... meta http-equiv="content-type" ... The Content-Type entry, even though it's a value, certainly looks standard enough to have a right way to write it. Is one of the above a standard or a best practice? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] META tag standards?
Gene Falck wrote: I understand about using lower case for tags and attributes in XHTML (leaving content capitalization unspecified to accommodate a wide range of strings) but haven't seen anything on those value items that seem to be relatively frequent and standard items. For instance, I see the following variants in the capitalization of values: meta http-equiv=Content-Type ... meta http-equiv=Content-type ... meta http-equiv=content-type ... The Content-Type entry, even though it's a value, certainly looks standard enough to have a right way to write it. Since 'http-equiv' indicates this represents HTTP header information, you should consult RFC 2616: Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1 Specifically, http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec4.html#sec4.2 quote 4.2 Message Headers HTTP header fields, which include general-header (section 4.5), request-header (section 5.3), response-header (section 6.2), and entity-header (section 7.1) fields, follow the same generic format as that given in Section 3.1 of RFC 822 [9]. Each header field consists of a name followed by a colon (:) and the field value. Field names are case-insensitive. /quote So it doesn't matter, but as far as best practice -- dunno, but my personal preference would be 'Content-Type'; I just prefer the way it looks :-) YMMV! HTH, -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] META tag standards?
Hi everyone, I've been prowling around in our resources and in Google but I haven't found this. (As usual, I may just not know what to call my question.) I understand about using lower case for tags and attributes in XHTML (leaving content capitalization unspecified to accommodate a wide range of strings) but haven't seen anything on those value items that seem to be relatively frequent and standard items. For instance, I see the following variants in the capitalization of values: meta http-equiv=Content-Type ... meta http-equiv=Content-type ... meta http-equiv=content-type ... The Content-Type entry, even though it's a value, certainly looks standard enough to have a right way to write it. Is one of the above a standard or a best practice? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] meta tag standards
Hello List, Is there anything wrong with closing meta tags like so: meta name=keywords content=Web, Development, Design, Hosting, Ecommerce, IT, Consultancy, Logos, Logo, Websites /metaThe reason that I ask is that I am developing our new company website (http://dev.netring.co.uk/netring2004 - I started it in 2004) and I am using XML and XSLT as the backend template system. The problem is that I cant get XSLT to close my Meta tag (meta /) in the way that I wish it to be.I was wondering if there was actually anything wrong with closing it in a separate closing tag. Thanks for any advice,Phil Baines Netring media and technology website: www.netring.co.uk telephone: 01239 711 471 The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail message in error, please notify us immediately. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005
Re: [WSG] meta tag standards
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:57:02 -, Phil Baines wrote: meta name=keywords content=Web, Development, Design, Hosting, Ecommerce, IT, Consultancy, Logos, Logo, Websites /meta The correct syntax would be meta name=keywords content=Web, Development, Design, Hosting, Ecommerce, IT, Consultancy, Logos, Logo, Websites / Note the slash inside the meta tag! See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.6 HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] meta tag standards
Is there anything wrong with closing meta tags like so: meta name=keywords content=Web, Development, Design, Hosting, Ecommerce, IT, Consultancy, Logos, Logo, Websites /meta In XML probably not, but tag-soup browsers/robots may try to fix your code and assume that /meta is ment to be /head or something like that. My XSLT knowledge is tiny, but I think that it is quite possible to make meta / tag, check XSLT FAQ: http://dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect2/sect21.html -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] meta tag standards
G'day Is there anything wrong with closing meta tags like so: meta name=keywords content=Web, Development, Design, Hosting, Ecommerce, IT, Consultancy, Logos, Logo, Websites /meta I was wondering if there was actually anything wrong with closing it in a separate closing tag. http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/index/elements.html Scroll down to META. Look at the third column (which is for End Tag). It says F, which means FORBIDDEN. It is also an empty element, just like IMG, INPUT, BR, HR (to mention a few obvious ones). http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_2 says: Include a space before the trailing / and of empty elements, e.g. br /, hr / and img src=karen.jpg alt=Karen /. Also, use the minimized tag syntax for empty elements, e.g. br /, as the alternative syntax br/br allowed by XML gives uncertain results in many existing user agents. So yes, I'd say there is something wrong with meta ... /meta, just like there is with br/br and img .../img HTH -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] meta tag standards
Hello again list!
Okay, thanks for all
the feedback! Especially Kornel Lesinski for the link to (http://dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect2/sect21.html)
where I found (http://dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect2/N4622.html),
and this piece of code:
xsl:template match=ImageInfo img src="">/xsl:template
I have never seen that done before with the XPath
_expression_ in curly brackets. Its not very widely documented at all!
So now, instead of using this XSL:
meta name=description
xsl:attribute
name=content
xsl:value-of
select=base/[EMAIL PROTECTED]'description'] /
/xsl:attribute
/meta
Producing this HTML:
meta name=description content=Netring Media and Technology are a/metaI can use this: meta name=description content={base/[EMAIL PROTECTED]'description']} / To produce this: meta name=description content=Netring Media and Technology are a /Also, thanks to Bert Doorn for showing me where it says that a separate closing tag is forbidden for Meta tags. Its always good when someone can point to a reference rather than just saying so.I think that I will right a short entry on my site about this. Thanks all again for the help.Regards,Phil Baines
Netring media and
technology
website: www.netring.co.uk
telephone: 01239 711 471
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Baines
Sent: 20 January 2005 11:57
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] meta tag standards
Hello List,
Is there anything wrong with closing meta tags like so:
meta name=keywords content=Web, Development, Design, Hosting, Ecommerce, IT, Consultancy, Logos, Logo, Websites /metaThe reason that I ask is that I am developing our new company website (http://dev.netring.co.uk/netring2004 - I started it in 2004) and I am using XML and XSLT as the backend template system. The problem is that I cant get XSLT to close my Meta tag (meta /) in the way that I wish it to be.I was wondering if there was actually anything wrong with closing it in a separate closing tag. Thanks for any advice,Phil Baines
Netring media and
technology
website: www.netring.co.uk
telephone: 01239 711 471
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