RE: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators

2010-10-05 Thread Cole Kuryakin 
Hi David -

>>It makes coping with IE 6/7 look like a game played by children...<<

Great, just what I wanted to hear (and had already half-expected).

Thanks for all of the great links!

Cole

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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of David Laakso
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:01 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators

  On 10/4/10 10:12 PM, Cole Kuryakin wrote:
> If anyone else would like to weigh-in on standards issues (and/or 
> mobile standard tutorials, gotcha's, etc.) surrounding site 
> development for mobile devices, please do... Should be a great help to
many of us.
>
> Cole





It makes coping with IE 6/7 look like a game played by children...

[some links.. in no particular order, rhyme, or reason]
<http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/>
<http://www.maxdesign.com.au/articles/css3-media-queries/>
<http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-mini-5-beta-developers/>
<http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/>
<http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/the-mobile-web-optimization-guide/>
<http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/Mobile>
<http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/screencast-mobile-web-development-techniques#
comments>
<http://www.alistapart.com/articles/responsive-web-design/>
<http://www.perfectomobile.com/portal/cms/opera.xhtml?key=OP631R89YL2>
<http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action>

Best,
~d



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Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators

2010-10-04 Thread David Laakso 

 On 10/4/10 10:12 PM, Cole Kuryakin wrote:

If anyone else would like to weigh-in on standards issues (and/or mobile
standard tutorials, gotcha's, etc.) surrounding site development for mobile
devices, please do... Should be a great help to many of us.

Cole






It makes coping with IE 6/7 look like a game played by children...

[some links.. in no particular order, rhyme, or reason]











Best,
~d



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RE: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators

2010-10-04 Thread Cole Kuryakin 
Hello David and Ryan -

Thanks very much for the information - very helpful.

If anyone else would like to weigh-in on standards issues (and/or mobile
standard tutorials, gotcha's, etc.) surrounding site development for mobile
devices, please do... Should be a great help to many of us.

Cole

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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of David Storey
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:51 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators


On 3 Oct 2010, at 06:02, Cole Kuryakin wrote:

> Hello All -
>
> I've been tasked with setting up a few form pages to be viewed on 
> mobile phone devices.
>
> Currently I'm using Adobe's Device Central - which is okay but it 
> really doesn't show how the forms (particulary select lists) will be 
> shown on various mobile devices.
>
> I've also tried the online Opera emulator which seems to work pretty 
> well

This emulates Opera Mini. You can get a downloadable Opera Mobile emulator
at http://www.opera.com/developer/tools/ . It isn't strictly an emulator. It
is the actual browser ported to Windows/Mac/Linux, but it is easier to name
it that way.

> ,
> but what about Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Apple, etc., etc.
>
> I've read on-line that for Nokia and Apple you've really gotta 
> download their SDK in order to accuratly test webpages - true?

It comes as part of the SDK package for iPhone at least. An emulator also
comes as part of the Palm (It is a copy of the OS that you have to run
through a virtual machine like VirtualBox) SDK, and the Android SDK.
>
> Would greatly appreciate any advice from those of this group who 
> develop mobile viewable pages (particulary forms) on where to test 
> your efforts for the best compliant and visual result across the 
> largest number of mobile devices possible.
>
> Cole
>
>
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Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators

2010-10-03 Thread David Storey 


On 3 Oct 2010, at 06:02, Cole Kuryakin wrote:


Hello All -

I've been tasked with setting up a few form pages to be viewed on  
mobile

phone devices.

Currently I'm using Adobe's Device Central - which is okay but it  
really

doesn't show how the forms (particulary select lists) will be shown on
various mobile devices.

I've also tried the online Opera emulator which seems to work pretty  
well


This emulates Opera Mini. You can get a downloadable Opera Mobile  
emulator at http://www.opera.com/developer/tools/ . It isn't strictly  
an emulator. It is the actual browser ported to Windows/Mac/Linux, but  
it is easier to name it that way.



,
but what about Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Apple, etc., etc.

I've read on-line that for Nokia and Apple you've really gotta  
download

their SDK in order to accuratly test webpages - true?


It comes as part of the SDK package for iPhone at least. An emulator  
also comes as part of the Palm (It is a copy of the OS that you have  
to run through a virtual machine like VirtualBox) SDK, and the Android  
SDK.


Would greatly appreciate any advice from those of this group who  
develop
mobile viewable pages (particulary forms) on where to test your  
efforts for
the best compliant and visual result across the largest number of  
mobile

devices possible.

Cole



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W3C WG:  Mobile Web Best Practices / SVG Interest Group

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Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators

2010-10-03 Thread Ryan Seddon 
I've been using a free trial on perfectomobile.com which gives you remote
access to real devices, basically has a webcam setup on the screen. Register
through this 
linkand
it'll give you 7 hour trial instead of the usual 1.

-Ryan

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Cole Kuryakin  wrote:

> Hello All -
>
> I've been tasked with setting up a few form pages to be viewed on mobile
> phone devices.
>
> Currently I'm using Adobe's Device Central - which is okay but it really
> doesn't show how the forms (particulary select lists) will be shown on
> various mobile devices.
>
> I've also tried the online Opera emulator which seems to work pretty well,
> but what about Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Apple, etc., etc.
>
> I've read on-line that for Nokia and Apple you've really gotta download
> their SDK in order to accuratly test webpages - true?
>
> Would greatly appreciate any advice from those of this group who develop
> mobile viewable pages (particulary forms) on where to test your efforts for
> the best compliant and visual result across the largest number of mobile
> devices possible.
>
> Cole
>
>
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[WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators

2010-10-02 Thread Cole Kuryakin 
Hello All -

I've been tasked with setting up a few form pages to be viewed on mobile
phone devices.

Currently I'm using Adobe's Device Central - which is okay but it really
doesn't show how the forms (particulary select lists) will be shown on
various mobile devices.

I've also tried the online Opera emulator which seems to work pretty well,
but what about Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Apple, etc., etc.

I've read on-line that for Nokia and Apple you've really gotta download
their SDK in order to accuratly test webpages - true?

Would greatly appreciate any advice from those of this group who develop
mobile viewable pages (particulary forms) on where to test your efforts for
the best compliant and visual result across the largest number of mobile
devices possible.

Cole



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