Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-19 Thread Jackie Reid

Hey Russyes i do... and here it is...

http://www.healthpoint.com.au/new/default.php

I seem to have all the side bits sorted out ( I should note that this is my
first attempt at a css only site ... actually my first styly sheet...so you
may find some crashing blunders in there as i am just feeling my way along
here!!!)

The bit i am talking about is the large image of mum and kid... if i dont
have enough content in that area...content changes every month... it all
sits up at the top and then i have this massive space under it. I hate that.

The other thing is when i dont have enough content to fill the section
the next header eg beauty slides up into the top section.. i hate that
too!!!

This is going to apply to all the lower sections too as there will be images
in each department.

Well that got that little lot off my chest. any help at all would be
hugely appreciated as i am all tuckered out here!!!

Cheers Jackie

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> Hi Jackie,
>
> As with Michael the other day, welcome to the list!
> Have you got a URL so we can see it in action?
>
> >
> > Re: Image float etc
> >
> > Have finally found time to sit and read all the emails that come through
> > from you guys and lo and behold you answered the question that had been
> > driving me mad about image float and text wrap so thank you all for
that.
> >
> > Now i have another question.
> >
> > If i dont have enough text to "fill" the space taken by the image is
there
> > any way i can get the text to align itself  horizontally to the image so
> > that theres not a pile of space under the content before the next lot of
> > content comes in. (does that make sense?)
> >
> > Jackie
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Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-19 Thread russ weakley
Hi Jackie, 

As with Michael the other day, welcome to the list!
Have you got a URL so we can see it in action?

> 
> Re: Image float etc
> 
> Have finally found time to sit and read all the emails that come through
> from you guys and lo and behold you answered the question that had been
> driving me mad about image float and text wrap so thank you all for that.
> 
> Now i have another question.
> 
> If i dont have enough text to "fill" the space taken by the image is there
> any way i can get the text to align itself  horizontally to the image so
> that theres not a pile of space under the content before the next lot of
> content comes in. (does that make sense?)
> 
> Jackie
> 
> 

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Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-19 Thread Jackie Reid

Re: Image float etc

Have finally found time to sit and read all the emails that come through
from you guys and lo and behold you answered the question that had been
driving me mad about image float and text wrap so thank you all for that.

Now i have another question.

If i dont have enough text to "fill" the space taken by the image is there
any way i can get the text to align itself  horizontally to the image so
that theres not a pile of space under the content before the next lot of
content comes in. (does that make sense?)

Jackie



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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap


>
> Hi Miles,
>
> There are several ways of accomplishing this. Here are three different
ways
> I've done:
>
> content (multiple block elements) floated right, image floated left.
> http://www.mxdu.com/
>
> image (accommodates variable width) floated left, content floated left -
> inline styles.
> http://www.brendansisson.com/
>
> image floated left, content floated left.
> http://www.leyland.com.au/
>
>
> All use "clear" to stop things going whack when there's insufficient
> content.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
>
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> Can this be achieved without using tables?
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RE: [WSG] RE: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread Miles Tillinger

Thanks, but this caused the text next to the image to align to the bottom of the 
image.  Is there any way to make it align the the top?

p.s. I'm having a hard time keeping up with everyone's suggestions, but thanks muchly 
all the same!  I'll try them all :D

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At 11:09 13/11/2003 +1030, Miles Tillinger wrote:
>The reason I wanted to do it was because the image and the text both 
>linked to the same URL with an  tag each (in separate cells of a 
>table).  I wanted to combine them so they were both wrapped in the one  
>tag, but when the  tag is wrapped around both div's clicking the image 
>doesn't open the URL. So the solution defeats its own purpose :(  Any ideas?

Try:

div#megatron {
 position: relative;
 margin-left: 100px;
}

div#megatron img {
 position: absolute;
 top: 0;
 left: 0;
}

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Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread scott parsons
too many divs!
text text text ...

a p{width:200px;margin-left:120px;}
a img{float:left}
just keep it simple, and add a descendent selector if this is just for 
one section of your page


(...)


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RE: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap [Virus checkedAU]

2003-11-12 Thread Mark . Lynch





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Hi Miles,

You might need to use a span instead of a div and redefine it to be block
level using display: block.  I haven't tested this but as far as I can
remember the HTML spec does not allow block level elements inside an anchor
() tag.

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   13/11/2003 11:39 AM 

   Please respond to   

   wsg 

   

   





Thanks, that achieves the effect I'm after,

but

The reason I wanted to do it was because the image and the text both linked
to the same URL with an  tag each (in separate cells of a table).  I
wanted to combine them so they were both wrapped in the one  tag, but
when the  tag is wrapped around both div's clicking the image doesn't
open the URL.

So the solution defeats its own purpose :(  Any ideas?

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap



Miles :

Put your text in in a block set its margin-left to x pixels (.eg 170)
should be wider than the image (.eg 160)..   The margin will run from
the left of the containing block.

This will work for fixed width images.

Cheers
James

Miles Tillinger wrote:

>Oops, my fingers slipped onto the send shortcut...  so, as I was saying:
>
>
> - text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |  image| text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> - text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>
>Can this be achieved without using tables?
>
>Regards,
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RE: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap [Virus checkedAU]

2003-11-12 Thread Viktor . Radnai





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Miles,

Try using something like Eric Meyer's absolutely positioned image trick:
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html and
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html -- these use
absolute positioning to take a  or an image out of the normal
document flow and position it somewhere else. You could use this trick to
move your image to the left of the content and the hover effect should
still work.

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   Please respond to   

   wsg 

   

   





Thanks, that achieves the effect I'm after,

but

The reason I wanted to do it was because the image and the text both linked
to the same URL with an  tag each (in separate cells of a table).  I
wanted to combine them so they were both wrapped in the one  tag, but
when the  tag is wrapped around both div's clicking the image doesn't
open the URL.

So the solution defeats its own purpose :(  Any ideas?

-Original Message-
From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap



Miles :

Put your text in in a block set its margin-left to x pixels (.eg 170)
should be wider than the image (.eg 160)..   The margin will run from
the left of the containing block.

This will work for fixed width images.

Cheers
James

Miles Tillinger wrote:

>Oops, my fingers slipped onto the send shortcut...  so, as I was saying:
>
>
> - text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |  image| text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> - text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>
>Can this be achieved without using tables?
>
>Regards,
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[WSG] RE: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread Irapuan Martinez
At 11:09 13/11/2003 +1030, Miles Tillinger wrote:
The reason I wanted to do it was because the image and the text both 
linked to the same URL with an  tag each (in separate cells of a 
table).  I wanted to combine them so they were both wrapped in the one  
tag, but when the  tag is wrapped around both div's clicking the image 
doesn't open the URL. So the solution defeats its own purpose :(  Any ideas?
Try:

div#megatron {
position: relative;
margin-left: 100px;
}
div#megatron img {
position: absolute;
top: 0;
left: 0;
}
...




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[WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread Irapuan Martinez
At 10:25 13/11/2003 +1030, Miles Tillinger wrote:
I want to have an image with text on the right, but when the text goes 
beyond the bottom of the image I don't want it wrap, but rather to keep 
the consistent margin:
Try this:


(...)


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RE: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread Ben Bishop

Hi Miles,

There are several ways of accomplishing this. Here are three different ways
I've done:

content (multiple block elements) floated right, image floated left.
http://www.mxdu.com/

image (accommodates variable width) floated left, content floated left -
inline styles.
http://www.brendansisson.com/

image floated left, content floated left.
http://www.leyland.com.au/


All use "clear" to stop things going whack when there's insufficient
content.

Cheers,

Ben


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Can this be achieved without using tables?

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RE: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread Miles Tillinger

Thanks, that achieves the effect I'm after,

but

The reason I wanted to do it was because the image and the text both linked to the 
same URL with an  tag each (in separate cells of a table).  I wanted to combine 
them so they were both wrapped in the one  tag, but when the  tag is wrapped 
around both div's clicking the image doesn't open the URL.

So the solution defeats its own purpose :(  Any ideas?

-Original Message-
From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap



Miles :

Put your text in in a block set its margin-left to x pixels (.eg 170) 
should be wider than the image (.eg 160)..   The margin will run from 
the left of the containing block.

This will work for fixed width images.

Cheers
James

Miles Tillinger wrote:

>Oops, my fingers slipped onto the send shortcut...  so, as I was saying:
>
>
> - text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |  image| text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> |   | text text text
> - text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>   text text text
>
>Can this be achieved without using tables?
>
>Regards,
>
>Miles
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Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread James Ellis
Miles :

Put your text in in a block set its margin-left to x pixels (.eg 170) 
should be wider than the image (.eg 160)..   The margin will run from 
the left of the containing block.

This will work for fixed width images.

Cheers
James
Miles Tillinger wrote:

Oops, my fingers slipped onto the send shortcut...  so, as I was saying:

- text text text
|   | text text text
|   | text text text
|   | text text text
|  image| text text text
|   | text text text
|   | text text text
|   | text text text
- text text text
  text text text
  text text text
  text text text
  text text text
  text text text
  text text text
Can this be achieved without using tables?

Regards,

Miles
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RE: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread Hill, Tim

Use a margin-left on the text that is the size of the image and then
float the image to the left?
So its like 


content between here

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From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:59 AM
To: Web Standards Group (E-mail)
Subject: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap


Oops, my fingers slipped onto the send shortcut...  so, as I was saying:


 - text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 |  image| text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 - text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text

Can this be achieved without using tables?

Regards,

Miles
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[WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

2003-11-12 Thread Miles Tillinger

Oops, my fingers slipped onto the send shortcut...  so, as I was saying:


 - text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 |  image| text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 |   | text text text
 - text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text
   text text text

Can this be achieved without using tables?

Regards,

Miles
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