Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences
Gamma correction, min-/mix-width/height, this is the most visible difference between 1.2.4 (maybe 1.3) and 2.0, but since everyone I know has moved to Tiger, I don't assume this is a problem... -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences
Hi I'm not sure, but given Safari and Konquerer run off the same base (khtml) you could try searching the bugz database at opendarwin.org and kde.org http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__all__product=WebKitcontent= http://bugs.kde.org/simple_search.cgi?id=khtml You may find some bugs there that match what you are seeing. In fact what differences are you seeing and could it be put down to Safari 2 doing the right thing but your code not doing the right thing? It happens, sometimes.. HTH James ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences
On 18 Aug 2005, at 9:35 pm, Jan Brasna wrote: Gamma correction, min-/mix-width/height, this is the most visible difference between 1.2.4 (maybe 1.3) and 2.0, but since everyone I know has moved to Tiger, I don't assume this is a problem... Safari 1.3 and 2.0 are supposed to be identical. There could be some display bugs due to a particular OS configuration (Panther vs Tiger), difference in font rendering, ... It shouldn't cause major layout problems though. PS - Jan, Safari v312 (1.3, Panther) beats Safari v412 (2.0, Tiger) by 35% in *my* stats. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences
quoteSafari 1.3 and 2.0 are supposed to be identical/quote I was recently working on a site that errors out completely in Safari/Tiger but works great in Safari/Panther. The error in Tiger is too many http requests when downloading images. However, viewing the activity bar for the same page, the error is shown for random images .. There's no (observable-to-me) consistency. Has anyone else witnessed a similar problem? I haven't located any resources yet. -chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philippe Wittenbergh Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:56 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences On 18 Aug 2005, at 9:35 pm, Jan Brasna wrote: Gamma correction, min-/mix-width/height, this is the most visible difference between 1.2.4 (maybe 1.3) and 2.0, but since everyone I know has moved to Tiger, I don't assume this is a problem... Safari 1.3 and 2.0 are supposed to be identical. There could be some display bugs due to a particular OS configuration (Panther vs Tiger), difference in font rendering, ... It shouldn't cause major layout problems though. PS - Jan, Safari v312 (1.3, Panther) beats Safari v412 (2.0, Tiger) by 35% in *my* stats. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences
On 19/8/05 8:22 AM, chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quoteSafari 1.3 and 2.0 are supposed to be identical/quote I was recently working on a site that errors out completely in Safari/Tiger but works great in Safari/Panther. The error in Tiger is too many http requests when downloading images. However, viewing the activity bar for the same page, the error is shown for random images .. There's no (observable-to-me) consistency. Has anyone else witnessed a similar problem? I haven't located any resources yet. -chris Are you sure that the Panther version of Safari you're using is 1.3? Safari v1.3 *requires* 10.3.9, and in fact was part of that OS update. The intention of the 1.3 update was to bring its rendering engine into line with v2, effectively making them the same. You *should* be seeing the same results in either version, OS-specific features aside (font rendering etc). Having said all that, I'm not sure what's causing your error. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences
Oh no. Not another browser difference to account for. When does it ever end? :) (Please excuse me if this has been discussed before and I missed it.) Has anyone else been noticing differences on sites rendering differently in Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2? I sure have in the 2 latest sites I've been involved in. Anyone know a good resource to read or what exactly is different? Just wondering. Thanks for your time. Shane Helm www.sonze.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences
From: Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh no. Not another browser difference to account for. When does it ever end? :) (Please excuse me if this has been discussed before and I missed it.) Has anyone else been noticing differences on sites rendering differently in Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2? I sure have in the 2 latest sites I've been involved in. Anyone know a good resource to read or what exactly is different? Just wondering. Thanks for your time. I would be interested in seeing a resource, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Safari seems to be slightly different as tied to different OS versions. That is, we've seen anomalies on Panther versions that are not apparent on Jaguar. Tiger bug fixes that are still broken on Panther and Jaguar and just about all scenarios in between. The good news is that much of it seems to involve rendering shortcuts introduced that affect active content, Javascript/DOM stuff or Flash Player stuff. On a completely static page, there are not terribly debilitating problems. But do post with resources, Surfin Safari seems to be a bit evasive - although they did quickly fix a bug that was affecting alistapart.com :-) I've got a test page in to their bugbase and Macromedia recently filed one at my behest involving wmode in the Flash Player. Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
