[WSG] XHTML v HTML (also a question about GoLive)

2004-05-18 Thread Mordechai Peller




A potential client asked me:
How does a xhtml
site differ from an html site and will I be
able to make modifications myself using a program such as Adobe Golive
which creates html pages?
  
It's the second half of the question with which I'm having a problem
since I have no experience with GoLive. While the thought of a WYSIWYG
touching my code horrifies me, anyone know the answer?

In regards to the first half, while I'm able to answer it, I was hoping
for some feedback either to answer better, or in case I overlooked
something. Besides the purely technical differences, what come to mind
is the following:

  Since the rules are stricter, it forces code to be cleaner;
  It must be well formed, therefore it's more machine readable and
more SE friendly;
  
  It's XML and can be treated as data; and
  XHTML replaces/is the newest version of HTML and therefore more
geared to the future.

Thanks in advance.




Re: [WSG] XHTML v HTML (also a question about GoLive)

2004-05-18 Thread Neerav
No idea about Adobe Golive but Dreamweaver MX 2004 ver 7.01 can be set 
to output XHTML compliant code.

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Neerav Bhatt
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Web Development  IT consultancy
Mordechai Peller wrote:
A potential client asked me:
How does a xhtml site differ from an html site and will I be able to 
make modifications myself using a program such as Adobe Golive which 
creates html pages?
It's the second half of the question with which I'm having a problem 
since I have no experience with GoLive. While the thought of a WYSIWYG 
touching my code horrifies me, anyone know the answer?

In regards to the first half, while I'm able to answer it, I was hoping 
for some feedback either to answer better, or in case I overlooked 
something. Besides the purely technical differences, what come to mind 
is the following:

* Since the rules are stricter, it forces code to be cleaner;
* It must be well formed, therefore it's more machine readable and
  more SE friendly;
* It's XML and can be treated as data; and
* XHTML replaces/is the newest version of HTML and therefore more
  geared to the future.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [WSG] XHTML v HTML (also a question about GoLive)

2004-05-18 Thread Hugh Todd
Mordechai,
I think the XHTML/HTML issue has been canvassed by more knowledgeable 
members in the past on this list, with some advocating for the use of 
HTML 4.01 for reasons you may like to search in the archives. (Look 
particularly for posts by Peter Firminger.)

That said, you are probably more concerned to reassure the client about 
the effect on the display of the site, and in that regard there are no 
issues that should cause concern, unless it involves something like 
pop-up windows.

Your other concern is over the use of GoLive or another WYSIWYG editor. 
This is more difficult, because you will have set up your CSS so that 
it works cross-browser, and touching it in one place could affect the 
display of your work.

The question I would have in this situation is, does the client want to 
be involved in the site's design, or merely content maintenance?

* If in design, then the client is really going about things in a 
back-to-front way. The design should be finalised between you before 
you break it down into HTML/CSS. This is what you are paid to do, in 
the same way that an architect is paid to understand the client's needs 
and translate them into working plans.

* If in content maintenance only (and you are talking about a static 
site), I would recommend using Macromedia Contribute or the Adobe 
equivalent. You can set it up to allow the client to enter content, 
with access to particular styles (hn, p, ul/li, img etc) and not to 
others, and you can provide templates for them to use.

Hope this helps. -Hugh Todd
 A potential client asked me:
...will I be able to make modifications myself using a program such as 
Adobe Golive which creates html pages?

 It's the second half of the question with which I'm having a problem 
since I have no experience with GoLive. While the thought of a WYSIWYG 
touching my code horrifies me, anyone know the answer?
*
The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on posting to the list  getting help
*