Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar ONLY IN IE
Hi Stefan,
Me head I scratch no more, and boy was it sore... - I found the solution:
put into the CSS:
html {
overflow-x: hidden;
overflow-y: auto;
}
and gone he is!
I found that via google search (IE bugs horizontal scrollbar) in
http://www.noscope.com/journal/2004/02/horizontal_scrollbar_bug
And next time I won't use tables no more (or frames - I still think it's
nice when the navigation bar stays put, but maybe there's another solution
even for this) but dive deeply into CSS, I've added csszengarden to the many
tutorials that I've already collected on this item, this
webmasterworld-forum I find a bit expensive - 70 EUR for 1/2 year!!.
I've thought very different about tabelless CSS (like you don't have to
become a vegan to eat somewhat healthier...), but that changed now, and
thinking about this 'mystery believe' discussion I'd say now: if my house
moved a couple of meters each time I try to enter it, I wouldn't ask for the
brand of hammer the builder used but for his home adres to pay him a
thorough visit!
thanx for your reply's (je woont dus ook in holland? Ook Amsterdam?)
Dani
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- Original Message -
From: Stefan Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar ONLY IN IE
maybe this will help you:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/9798.htm
Stefan Lemmen
Holland
On 4/21/05, Stefan Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Daniela,
My first reply didn't make any sense at all when I looked in it
further. (I just woke up when I replied)
I have had the problem myself too. Couldn't find the problem either.
I'm sure there must be a sollution somewhere.. Maybe you could try
using some css instead of tables to position inside the frames. I'm
sure the problem has to do with the combination frames and tables.
Maybe try to position everything in tables and dont use frames at
all.. or use frames without using tables. I know this is
time-consuming. But I cant give you any better advice at this point.
In the future you take a different approach on positioning stuff..
take a look at http://www.csszengarden.com
It gave me another look on designing and positioning.
Good luck with your project. Hope you find the cause of the problem soon.
Stefan Lemmen
Holland
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Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar ONLY IN IE
I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which worked fine as long as they were .htm-files. Stefan, it can't be anything about the design, I've now put the width of the inner frameset to 760px (was 660) and it's still the same: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames_test/content_1.php (with 660px width: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php ) And this stupid horizontal scrollbalk appears only in IE , I've tested in Firefox, Netscape and Mac and everything looks and works fine. And Kornel, sure enough from browsers point of view both are just HTML files, I've looked through all carefully and again can't find nothing, what makes it now appear?? (I've validated and in the frameset are 3 errors: frameborder and framespacing, but when take them out these horrible borders appear; and noframes, but that can't have to do with my problem; In biography.php validation shows 6 errors, but one about some background in a table and 5 about some alt-tags (I'll fix this now), but could this cause a scrollbalk?) Thanks for all hints, Dani - Original Message - From: Stefan Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar in IE Hi Dani, I think I found the error table width=637 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 background=opmaak/bg_table_n.jpg tr td height=20nbsp;/td tdnbsp;/td td valign=bottom class=pijla href=#benedenimg src=opmaak/pijl_ben.gif alt=naar beneden width=12 height=12 border=0/a/td /tr tr td width=637 colspan=3 valign=top class=content id=text_contentpPeter-Jan Wagemans (1952) is The table should be 637.. but your tds are 637 + 20 (from the image) = 657 together. The td width will overrule the one of the table.. so i think u should try 1st td 617. Hope this helps you. On 4/20/05, Daniela Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, ok, I work with frames, but my client want's that (and a content manegment program, so he can update himself). But now I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which worked fine as long as they were htm-files: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php (the htm-files were http://www.atelier-hoffmann.com/wagemans_opt1/ , when he approved of the design). I've tried to widen the frameset but everything gets wider and the scrollbar stays put. And when I validate this frameset there are 3 errors: 'frameborder' and 'framespacing', but when take them out these horrible borders appear; and 'noframes', but I thought I could put some text there like get another browser ect (I'm new to webstandarts, I've learned it that way 3 years ago). I'd love to find out by myself (so many great tutorial sites who's URL's I've found in this group), but now I've got this deadline..., someone knows? Thanks, Dani -- Stefan Lemmen Holland ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar ONLY IN IE
Hi Daniela, My first reply didn't make any sense at all when I looked in it further. (I just woke up when I replied) I have had the problem myself too. Couldn't find the problem either. I'm sure there must be a sollution somewhere.. Maybe you could try using some css instead of tables to position inside the frames. I'm sure the problem has to do with the combination frames and tables. Maybe try to position everything in tables and dont use frames at all.. or use frames without using tables. I know this is time-consuming. But I cant give you any better advice at this point. In the future you take a different approach on positioning stuff.. take a look at http://www.csszengarden.com It gave me another look on designing and positioning. Good luck with your project. Hope you find the cause of the problem soon. Stefan Lemmen Holland On 4/21/05, Daniela Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which worked fine as long as they were .htm-files. Stefan, it can't be anything about the design, I've now put the width of the inner frameset to 760px (was 660) and it's still the same: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames_test/content_1.php (with 660px width: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php ) And this stupid horizontal scrollbalk appears only in IE , I've tested in Firefox, Netscape and Mac and everything looks and works fine. And Kornel, sure enough from browsers point of view both are just HTML files, I've looked through all carefully and again can't find nothing, what makes it now appear?? (I've validated and in the frameset are 3 errors: frameborder and framespacing, but when take them out these horrible borders appear; and noframes, but that can't have to do with my problem; In biography.php validation shows 6 errors, but one about some background in a table and 5 about some alt-tags (I'll fix this now), but could this cause a scrollbalk?) Thanks for all hints, Dani - Original Message - From: Stefan Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar in IE Hi Dani, I think I found the error table width=637 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 background=opmaak/bg_table_n.jpg tr td height=20/td td/td td valign=bottom class=pijla href=#benedenimg src=opmaak/pijl_ben.gif alt=naar beneden width=12 height=12 border=0/a/td /tr tr td width=637 colspan=3 valign=top class=content id=text_contentpPeter-Jan Wagemans (1952) is The table should be 637.. but your tds are 637 + 20 (from the image) = 657 together. The td width will overrule the one of the table.. so i think u should try 1st td 617. Hope this helps you. On 4/20/05, Daniela Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, ok, I work with frames, but my client want's that (and a content manegment program, so he can update himself). But now I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which worked fine as long as they were htm-files: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php (the htm-files were http://www.atelier-hoffmann.com/wagemans_opt1/ , when he approved of the design). I've tried to widen the frameset but everything gets wider and the scrollbar stays put. And when I validate this frameset there are 3 errors: 'frameborder' and 'framespacing', but when take them out these horrible borders appear; and 'noframes', but I thought I could put some text there like get another browser ect (I'm new to webstandarts, I've learned it that way 3 years ago). I'd love to find out by myself (so many great tutorial sites who's URL's I've found in this group), but now I've got this deadline..., someone knows? Thanks, Dani -- Stefan Lemmen Holland ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Stefan Lemmen Holland ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar ONLY IN IE
maybe this will help you: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/9798.htm Stefan Lemmen Holland On 4/21/05, Stefan Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Daniela, My first reply didn't make any sense at all when I looked in it further. (I just woke up when I replied) I have had the problem myself too. Couldn't find the problem either. I'm sure there must be a sollution somewhere.. Maybe you could try using some css instead of tables to position inside the frames. I'm sure the problem has to do with the combination frames and tables. Maybe try to position everything in tables and dont use frames at all.. or use frames without using tables. I know this is time-consuming. But I cant give you any better advice at this point. In the future you take a different approach on positioning stuff.. take a look at http://www.csszengarden.com It gave me another look on designing and positioning. Good luck with your project. Hope you find the cause of the problem soon. Stefan Lemmen Holland On 4/21/05, Daniela Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which worked fine as long as they were .htm-files. Stefan, it can't be anything about the design, I've now put the width of the inner frameset to 760px (was 660) and it's still the same: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames_test/content_1.php (with 660px width: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php ) And this stupid horizontal scrollbalk appears only in IE , I've tested in Firefox, Netscape and Mac and everything looks and works fine. And Kornel, sure enough from browsers point of view both are just HTML files, I've looked through all carefully and again can't find nothing, what makes it now appear?? (I've validated and in the frameset are 3 errors: frameborder and framespacing, but when take them out these horrible borders appear; and noframes, but that can't have to do with my problem; In biography.php validation shows 6 errors, but one about some background in a table and 5 about some alt-tags (I'll fix this now), but could this cause a scrollbalk?) Thanks for all hints, Dani - Original Message - From: Stefan Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar in IE Hi Dani, I think I found the error table width=637 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 background=opmaak/bg_table_n.jpg tr td height=20/td td/td td valign=bottom class=pijla href=#benedenimg src=opmaak/pijl_ben.gif alt=naar beneden width=12 height=12 border=0/a/td /tr tr td width=637 colspan=3 valign=top class=content id=text_contentpPeter-Jan Wagemans (1952) is The table should be 637.. but your tds are 637 + 20 (from the image) = 657 together. The td width will overrule the one of the table.. so i think u should try 1st td 617. Hope this helps you. On 4/20/05, Daniela Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, ok, I work with frames, but my client want's that (and a content manegment program, so he can update himself). But now I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) in the .php-files which worked fine as long as they were htm-files: http://www.peter-janwagemans.com/wagemans_frames/content_1.php (the htm-files were http://www.atelier-hoffmann.com/wagemans_opt1/ , when he approved of the design). I've tried to widen the frameset but everything gets wider and the scrollbar stays put. And when I validate this frameset there are 3 errors: 'frameborder' and 'framespacing', but when take them out these horrible borders appear; and 'noframes', but I thought I could put some text there like get another browser ect (I'm new to webstandarts, I've learned it that way 3 years ago). I'd love to find out by myself (so many great tutorial sites who's URL's I've found in this group), but now I've got this deadline..., someone knows? Thanks, Dani -- Stefan Lemmen Holland ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Stefan Lemmen Holland ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help
Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar ONLY IN IE
Daniela Hoffmann wrote: I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in IE) Jeez, I'd almost gotten over the days of framesets... *shiver* :) Dani, have you tried changing the 'scrolling' attribute from 'auto' to 'yes' on the 'mainFrame' frame? cheers, Stuart -- === El Bombin http://elbombin.stuarthomfray.co.uk Stuart Homfray http://www.stuarthomfray.co.uk === ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
