RE: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators
Hi David - It makes coping with IE 6/7 look like a game played by children... Great, just what I wanted to hear (and had already half-expected). Thanks for all of the great links! Cole -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:01 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators On 10/4/10 10:12 PM, Cole Kuryakin wrote: If anyone else would like to weigh-in on standards issues (and/or mobile standard tutorials, gotcha's, etc.) surrounding site development for mobile devices, please do... Should be a great help to many of us. Cole It makes coping with IE 6/7 look like a game played by children... [some links.. in no particular order, rhyme, or reason] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/ http://www.maxdesign.com.au/articles/css3-media-queries/ http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-mini-5-beta-developers/ http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/ http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/the-mobile-web-optimization-guide/ http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/Mobile http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/screencast-mobile-web-development-techniques# comments http://www.alistapart.com/articles/responsive-web-design/ http://www.perfectomobile.com/portal/cms/opera.xhtml?key=OP631R89YL2 http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action Best, ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators
Hello David and Ryan - Thanks very much for the information - very helpful. If anyone else would like to weigh-in on standards issues (and/or mobile standard tutorials, gotcha's, etc.) surrounding site development for mobile devices, please do... Should be a great help to many of us. Cole -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of David Storey Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:51 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators On 3 Oct 2010, at 06:02, Cole Kuryakin wrote: Hello All - I've been tasked with setting up a few form pages to be viewed on mobile phone devices. Currently I'm using Adobe's Device Central - which is okay but it really doesn't show how the forms (particulary select lists) will be shown on various mobile devices. I've also tried the online Opera emulator which seems to work pretty well This emulates Opera Mini. You can get a downloadable Opera Mobile emulator at http://www.opera.com/developer/tools/ . It isn't strictly an emulator. It is the actual browser ported to Windows/Mac/Linux, but it is easier to name it that way. , but what about Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Apple, etc., etc. I've read on-line that for Nokia and Apple you've really gotta download their SDK in order to accuratly test webpages - true? It comes as part of the SDK package for iPhone at least. An emulator also comes as part of the Palm (It is a copy of the OS that you have to run through a virtual machine like VirtualBox) SDK, and the Android SDK. Would greatly appreciate any advice from those of this group who develop mobile viewable pages (particulary forms) on where to test your efforts for the best compliant and visual result across the largest number of mobile devices possible. Cole *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- David Storey Chief Web Opener / Product Manager, Opera Dragonfly W3C WG: Mobile Web Best Practices / SVG Interest Group Opera Software ASA, Oslo, Norway Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 / E-Mail/XMPP: dsto...@opera.com / Twitter: dstorey *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators
On 10/4/10 10:12 PM, Cole Kuryakin wrote: If anyone else would like to weigh-in on standards issues (and/or mobile standard tutorials, gotcha's, etc.) surrounding site development for mobile devices, please do... Should be a great help to many of us. Cole It makes coping with IE 6/7 look like a game played by children... [some links.. in no particular order, rhyme, or reason] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/ http://www.maxdesign.com.au/articles/css3-media-queries/ http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-mini-5-beta-developers/ http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/ http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/the-mobile-web-optimization-guide/ http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/Mobile http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/screencast-mobile-web-development-techniques#comments http://www.alistapart.com/articles/responsive-web-design/ http://www.perfectomobile.com/portal/cms/opera.xhtml?key=OP631R89YL2 http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action Best, ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators
I've been using a free trial on perfectomobile.com which gives you remote access to real devices, basically has a webcam setup on the screen. Register through this linkhttp://www.perfectomobile.com/portal/cms/opera.xhtml?key=OP631R89YL2and it'll give you 7 hour trial instead of the usual 1. -Ryan On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Cole Kuryakin c...@koisis.com wrote: Hello All - I've been tasked with setting up a few form pages to be viewed on mobile phone devices. Currently I'm using Adobe's Device Central - which is okay but it really doesn't show how the forms (particulary select lists) will be shown on various mobile devices. I've also tried the online Opera emulator which seems to work pretty well, but what about Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Apple, etc., etc. I've read on-line that for Nokia and Apple you've really gotta download their SDK in order to accuratly test webpages - true? Would greatly appreciate any advice from those of this group who develop mobile viewable pages (particulary forms) on where to test your efforts for the best compliant and visual result across the largest number of mobile devices possible. Cole *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Mobile Phone Emulators
On 3 Oct 2010, at 06:02, Cole Kuryakin wrote: Hello All - I've been tasked with setting up a few form pages to be viewed on mobile phone devices. Currently I'm using Adobe's Device Central - which is okay but it really doesn't show how the forms (particulary select lists) will be shown on various mobile devices. I've also tried the online Opera emulator which seems to work pretty well This emulates Opera Mini. You can get a downloadable Opera Mobile emulator at http://www.opera.com/developer/tools/ . It isn't strictly an emulator. It is the actual browser ported to Windows/Mac/Linux, but it is easier to name it that way. , but what about Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Apple, etc., etc. I've read on-line that for Nokia and Apple you've really gotta download their SDK in order to accuratly test webpages - true? It comes as part of the SDK package for iPhone at least. An emulator also comes as part of the Palm (It is a copy of the OS that you have to run through a virtual machine like VirtualBox) SDK, and the Android SDK. Would greatly appreciate any advice from those of this group who develop mobile viewable pages (particulary forms) on where to test your efforts for the best compliant and visual result across the largest number of mobile devices possible. Cole *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- David Storey Chief Web Opener / Product Manager, Opera Dragonfly W3C WG: Mobile Web Best Practices / SVG Interest Group Opera Software ASA, Oslo, Norway Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 / E-Mail/XMPP: dsto...@opera.com / Twitter: dstorey *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
