Re: [WSG] Redesigning an eyesore

2005-01-06 Thread Ryan Short
Looks good, a big improvement on the old site, especially because you
removed the Java navigation elements. I have just one query, the menus
at the top only appear when clicked, is this the intended behaviour? I
expected that they would appear when the mouse was over them.
I was viewing the site in Firefox 1.0 on WinXP SP2.

Ryan S
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Re: [WSG] Redesigning an eyesore

2005-01-06 Thread silenus
Wow, you've really made a HUGE improvement there! It looks great now, 
even without comparing it to the old site. In fact the old site made 
firefox crash for me!

Good job!

Erwin Heiser wrote:
Hello all,
I just finished my redesign of the website of a local dance school.
It¹s a site that has been an eyesore for years so I jumped on the
opportunity for a standards-based redesign when it presented itself a few
months ago.
The URL:
http://www.terpsichore.be
Big deal I can hear you think but compare this to the previous site:
http://www.terpsichore.be/oldsite/index.html
Yes, it¹s all there: no doctype, framesets, applets for navigation, animated
gifs and lots of lovely Frontpage generated tag soup (I¹m not even going to
mention the layout or design).
On some pages the weight was reduced from  54kb to 10 or 11kb (you do the
math).
In fact the largest page on the current site is 20kb, that¹s the gallery
holding all the teachers resumes (docenten for all you non-dutch speaking
people ;-)  ).
I used the drop-down menu from
http://www.gazingus.org/html/Using_Lists_for_DHTML_Menus.html
which degrades nicely in the absence of css and degrades well in older
browsers. 
I've tested it on Mac: Safari, Firefox, Netscape, Omniweb and PC: IE6,
Netscape and Firefox.
Only Opera shifts the dropdown list-items some 35px to the right for some
reason.

The only thing that still needs some work are the tables holding the class
schedule to make them more accessible.
I¹m not going to change anything on the design (for now) but it just seemed
like a good showcase for web standards since you can easily compare the new
version with the old one.
Any and all comments appreciated and sorry for the long post!
Erwin Heiser.
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RE: [WSG] Redesigning an eyesore

2005-01-06 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
 -Original Message-
 From: Erwin Heiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 7 January 2005 12:07 PM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: [WSG] Redesigning an eyesore


 Hello all,

 I just finished my redesign of the website of a local dance school.

 The URL:
 http://www.terpsichore.be

 Any and all comments appreciated and sorry for the long post!


I definitely like the new look of your page. No question.

I am not a big fan of those dropdowns, though. Why do I have to click on the
primary item to get the dropdown? It forces the user to make an additional
click that is not really necessary. The good old mouseOver would do the job
much better, I think. In particular as there is no choice: if I want to
navigate your site I need the navigation items that are currently hidden.

One other thing I noticed lately: most standards-based websites suddenly
start to look the same. They've got this A-List-Apart look on them:
centered, 800px wide, horizontal navigation at the top. Not that there is
anything wrong with it, but the second you see that design style you know it
was done by a fan of web standards. I wonder where this comes from?

Sorry, this sounds like I am only complaining about your site. These were
just two things that came to my mind. But in general I really like the new
design.

HTH.

Andreas Boehmer
User Experience Consultant

Phone: (03) 9417 0468
Mobile: (0411) 097 038
http://www.addictiveMedia.com.au
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