Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:54:54 +1100, Seona Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Laakso [] the fonts are much too small, that they go a little goofy on zoom in IE, Is that a great deal larger than what you get? And I'm not entirely sure what you mean about them going goofy on zoom. What happens exactly? that the layout breaks on zoom in IE accessibility mode, and that My error. The font-size is fine cross-browser in XP, as well as with zoom without breaking the layout, in accessibility mode in IE(so much for nit-picking after 12 hours on a 1280 LCD). On a couple of pages, web.html in particular, the line length is very long (1125px) when viewed in a 1280 monitor. there's no available horizontal navigation available when images are disabled in FF, or Opera. The bottom horizontal text links are available for navigation when the images are disabled-- it's that there's no top h-navigation. And it's a long, long, scroll to get to the content in Lynx. My bad again-- more my error, than your problem That's true. I'm not sure how else to manage it though.Also, you may notice that in the IE screenshot above, there's a white space between the top bar with the navigation and the next bar with the banner. I can't figure out how to make it go away. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. Once again, site is at: http://www.onehouseproductions.com CSS: http://www.onehouseproductions.com/_styles/main.css http://www.onehouseproductions.com/_styles/mainNav.css Cheers, Seona. Best, David -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Laakso And then along comes a *nit-picking bozzo,* still on the back of the bus, with XP_SP2, who finds that: Nit-picking is good. It helps me build better sites. Hopefully I can fix the problems. :) the fonts are much too small, that they go a little goofy on zoom in IE, Hmm... well, I run Win2k here, not XP, and I'm not sure what the differences are. The font sizes here when I'm running at my normal mode (IE's default font sizing in a 1024x768 screen) are a nice size for reading. I hadn't realised that XP might show it different... Or have you just got your set on tiny fonts? I've included here a couple of links to screenshots I made of the page, and I'd be interested to know if this is any different from what you're seeing: Mozilla: http://www.onehouseproductions.com/temp/screen_moz.jpg IE6: http://www.onehouseproductions.com/temp/screen_ie.jpg Is that a great deal larger than what you get? And I'm not entirely sure what you mean about them going goofy on zoom. What happens exactly? that the layout breaks on zoom in IE accessibility mode, and that Which part of the layout? And how badly? Any chance you could send me some screenshots off list? Best email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the moment. there's no available horizontal navigation available when images are disabled in FF, or Opera. Really? Hmm... confuzzled now. I would have thought that even with images off the text would still be available since the actual links in the navigation are just text. Any suggestions about how I can fix this? And it's a long, long, scroll to get to the content in Lynx. That's true. I'm not sure how else to manage it though. What are the disadvantages of absolutely positioning the content block so that I can have it first in the source? Also, you may notice that in the IE screenshot above, there's a white space between the top bar with the navigation and the next bar with the banner. I can't figure out how to make it go away. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. Once again, site is at: http://www.onehouseproductions.com CSS: http://www.onehouseproductions.com/_styles/main.css http://www.onehouseproductions.com/_styles/mainNav.css Cheers, Seona. __ ella for Spam Control has removed Spam messages and set aside Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Hi Seona
Mac Ie5 is having a real problem with the #mainNav ul {position: absolute}
change this to float left and it should fix everything up.
This shouldn't affect any other browsers.
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au
From: Seona Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:48:22 +1100
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Subject: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Hi guys,
Can I have some people look over this site for me please? Especially Mac
users, since I don't have a Mac to check it on but my client does (so I know
she's going to comment on how it looks on a Mac).
http://www.onehouseproductions.com
Since I didn't have total control over the creation of this site (I've
basically been reduced to 'code monkey' on this one) I've had to make a
number of compromises that I'm not entirely happy with, but I've done the
best I can to keep things nice. I'd value any suggestions anyone has about
what I could do better, although in some cases I won't be able to take them
up if they will deviate too much from the original design. *sigh*
Cheers,
Seona.
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Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
All looks good now.
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au
From: Seona Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:20:49 +1100
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the tip. I've made the change. Can you have a look at it and see
if it has introduced any other unexpected results? I've checked it on
IE6/Win and Mozilla and it seems to be fine, but I'm always a little nervous
about Macs because I can't check there. One day I'll actually save up enough
money to buy a Mac as a testing machine. :)
Cheers,
Seona.
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Hi Seona
Mac Ie5 is having a real problem with the #mainNav ul {position: absolute}
change this to float left and it should fix everything up.
This shouldn't affect any other browsers.
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au
From: Seona Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:48:22 +1100
To: WSG List wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Hi guys,
Can I have some people look over this site for me please? Especially Mac
users, since I don't have a Mac to check it on but my client
does (so I know
she's going to comment on how it looks on a Mac).
http://www.onehouseproductions.com
Since I didn't have total control over the creation of this site (I've
basically been reduced to 'code monkey' on this one) I've had to make a
number of compromises that I'm not entirely happy with, but
I've done the
best I can to keep things nice. I'd value any suggestions
anyone has about
what I could do better, although in some cases I won't be able
to take them
up if they will deviate too much from the original design. *sigh*
Cheers,
Seona.
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Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
about Macs because I can't check there You can. http://www.browsercam.com/ http://danvine.com/icapture/ buy a Mac as a testing machine. :) Not necessarily. http://pearpc.sf.net BTW you'll end up with a testing PC and using Apple regularly :) -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: alphanumeric.cz | janbrasna.com Stop IE! - http://www.stopie.com/ | http://browsehappy.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Exactly what happened to me :) Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 02:42:08 +0100 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House about Macs because I can't check there You can. http://www.browsercam.com/ http://danvine.com/icapture/ buy a Mac as a testing machine. :) Not necessarily. http://pearpc.sf.net BTW you'll end up with a testing PC and using Apple regularly :) -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: alphanumeric.cz | janbrasna.com Stop IE! - http://www.stopie.com/ | http://browsehappy.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
*grin* Cool, thanks for the links. I'll have to check them out. I'm sure it will be much cheaper than buying a Mac. :) Cheers, Seona. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jan Brasna Sent: Monday, 28 February 2005 12:42 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House about Macs because I can't check there You can. http://www.browsercam.com/ http://danvine.com/icapture/ buy a Mac as a testing machine. :) Not necessarily. http://pearpc.sf.net BTW you'll end up with a testing PC and using Apple regularly :) -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: alphanumeric.cz | janbrasna.com Stop IE! - http://www.stopie.com/ | http://browsehappy.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** __ ella for Spam Control has removed Spam messages and set aside Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:16:21 +1100, Seona Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *grin* Cool, thanks for the links. I'll have to check them out. I'm sure it will be much cheaper than buying a Mac. :) And then along comes a *nit-picking bozzo,* still on the back of the bus, with XP_SP2, who finds that: the fonts are much too small, that they go a little goofy on zoom in IE, that the layout breaks on zoom in IE accessibility mode, and that there's no available horizontal navigation available when images are disabled in FF, or Opera. And it's a long, long, scroll to get to the content in Lynx. -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
