Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Greg Beam
Hi Dan,

I can't speak to the rebase situation, however, one has to keep in mind 
the purpose of the MSYS environment as part of JTSDK. It is not a full 
MSYS image/environment instalaltion, it's the chain image, meaning, it's 
there to support for the use of GCC, C++, gfortran, and autotools, not 
an interactive user environment. The MSYS work-space is not even 
installed (though there are a few msys dll's to support the tool chain 
binary requirements), as it is not needed (normally) for the tool chain 
to perform it's intended function. mingw-get is not part of the tool 
chain side, it's part of the MSYS environment / installer side.

This is evident by the fact, grep and find are in the C:/JTSDK/msys/bin 
directory. However, the default or "assumed" profile for mingw-get is 
looking for those binaries in a non-existent MSYS /bin directory (which 
it cannot find), not the tool-chain /bin directory.

I'm not certain, but I believe mingwe-get needs a profile file to tell 
it where MSYS is located along with the tool chain folder ../mingw or 
../mingw32 / wherever the tool chain is located.


73's
Greg, KI7MT

On 3/5/2017 8:50 PM, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> Bill,
> Got that and installed it.  MIngw-get still failed but a search found the
> program under C:\JTSDK\mingw32\bin so I used the full path from the JTSDK
> MYS prompt.  That ran and seemed to install a few pages.  Closed all JTSDK
> windows and then found dash.exe right where you said it would be.  It opened
> a window and /bin/rebaseall gave me this error:
> $ /bin/rebaseall
> /bin/rebaseall: 207: find: not found
> /bin/rebaseall: 207: grep: not found
> /bin/rebaseall: 207: find: not found
> /bin/rebaseall: 207: grep: not found
> _
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:53 PM
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error
>
> On 06/03/2017 02:43, Dan Malcolm wrote:
>> The very first step failed with 'bash.exe: mingw-get: command not found'.
>
> HI Dan,
>
> Ah, that's not helpful.
>
> Try this:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/
>
> you want the mingw-get-setup.exe installer offered at the top of the page.
>
> 73
> Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Dan Malcolm
Bill,
Got that and installed it.  MIngw-get still failed but a search found the
program under C:\JTSDK\mingw32\bin so I used the full path from the JTSDK
MYS prompt.  That ran and seemed to install a few pages.  Closed all JTSDK
windows and then found dash.exe right where you said it would be.  It opened
a window and /bin/rebaseall gave me this error:
$ /bin/rebaseall
/bin/rebaseall: 207: find: not found
/bin/rebaseall: 207: grep: not found
/bin/rebaseall: 207: find: not found
/bin/rebaseall: 207: grep: not found
_
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:53 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

On 06/03/2017 02:43, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> The very first step failed with 'bash.exe: mingw-get: command not found'.

HI Dan,

Ah, that's not helpful.

Try this:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/

you want the mingw-get-setup.exe installer offered at the top of the page.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Bill Somerville
On 06/03/2017 02:43, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> The very first step failed with 'bash.exe: mingw-get: command not found'.

HI Dan,

Ah, that's not helpful.

Try this:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/

you want the mingw-get-setup.exe installer offered at the top of the page.

73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Dan Malcolm
The very first step failed with 'bash.exe: mingw-get: command not found'. 
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:00 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

On 05/03/2017 23:31, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> The build log is attached.

Hi Dan,

try the following:-

Open a JTSDK MSYS prompt and type:

mingw-get install msys-rebase

Exit the MSYS window and any other MSYS window that might be open -- this
step is important.

In Windows open a File Explorer window (Windows-Key+E) and navigate to the
MSYS bin folder. It will be something like:

C:\JTSDK\MinGW\msys\1.0\bin

Scroll down until you locate dash.exe and double click it. A small command
window should open. Type the following:

/bin/rebaseall

then hit ENTER. It should take a minute or so to complete.

Quit the dash window by tying CTRL+D.

Now try the build again.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Bill Somerville
On 05/03/2017 23:31, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> The build log is attached.

Hi Dan,

try the following:-

Open a JTSDK MSYS prompt and type:

mingw-get install msys-rebase

Exit the MSYS window and any other MSYS window that might be open -- 
this step is important.

In Windows open a File Explorer window (Windows-Key+E) and navigate to 
the MSYS bin folder. It will be something like:

C:\JTSDK\MinGW\msys\1.0\bin

Scroll down until you locate dash.exe and double click it. A small 
command window should open. Type the following:

/bin/rebaseall

then hit ENTER. It should take a minute or so to complete.

Quit the dash window by tying CTRL+D.

Now try the build again.

73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Dan Malcolm
Bill,
Sorry but I used your earlier example as I thought that would also capture
stderr.  Attached is the 'tee' version.  I don't see any difference.  The
'&' in the command line caused an error so it wasn't used.

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From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 4:20 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

On 06/03/2017 01:37, Greg Beam wrote:
> build-hamlib3 |tee -a hamlib3-build.log
>
> That should scroll the build on the screen and create a build log for you.

Hi Dan & all,

better to use:

build-hamlib3 |& tee hamlib3-build.log

so that any error output sent to the stderr stream is also sent to the log
file and a fresh log file is created for each run.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Dan Malcolm
Bill,
The build log is attached.

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-Original Message-
From: Dan Malcolm [mailto:dmalcol...@mchsi.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 7:36 PM
To: 'WSJT software development' 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

Ok Bill,
That's no problem if someone can tell me how exactly.  I found the Autoconf
file but the text says not to directly edit it, so I didn't.  I also didn't
find any place to edit the make command line.  

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-Original Message-
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 1:57 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

On 04/03/2017 19:21, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> v5.8.8 built for msys-64int

Hi Dan,

ok, that also is fine. I need to see the full and verbose Hamlib build
output. Problem is I'm not sure how to do that with the JTSDK, maybe Greg is
lurking and can help out. What is needed is to add V=1 to the Hamlib make
command and also to redirect all the output (stderr and
stdout) to a log file. Then zip and send me that file please?

73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Inquiry -End User Tech Question

2017-03-05 Thread Bill Somerville
On 05/03/2017 23:15, W9HGO wrote:
> I realize this is the development list
> I am in search of guidance in using the program

Hi Harry,

which program?

If WSJT-X then there is User Guide including tutorials available from 
the help menu or from:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.0.html

No problem asking for help but there is also an active user forum on 
Yahoo Groups:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/info

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[wsjt-devel] Inquiry -End User Tech Question

2017-03-05 Thread W9HGO
I realize this is the development list
I am in search of guidance in using the program

Thanks
Harry

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Bill Somerville
On 06/03/2017 01:37, Greg Beam wrote:
> build-hamlib3 |tee -a hamlib3-build.log
>
> That should scroll the build on the screen and create a build log for you.

Hi Dan & all,

better to use:

build-hamlib3 |& tee hamlib3-build.log

so that any error output sent to the stderr stream is also sent to the 
log file and a fresh log file is created for each run.

73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib compile problem

2017-03-05 Thread Greg Beam
Hi Colin,

I've hit the the resource unavailable problem in the past but not the 
heap issue.

Try building Hamlib3 from MSYS directly and see if you get the same error.

73's
Greg, KI7MT

On 3/5/2017 12:31 PM, Colin99 Campbell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm just going through the installation of  JTSDK following the
> instructions
> at https://sourceforge.net/projects/jtsdk/files/win32/2.0.0/ but I can't
> get Hamlib to build. I tried with the default QT version 5.2 but when
> that failed I changed to version 5.5. The result was the same.  At the
> start of  the program I get this message about not being able
> to allocate the heap. I ran the program as administrator but it made no
> odds.
>
>
> Running 'autoreconf -i' to process configure.ac
> and generate the configure script.
> C:\JTSDK\msys\bin\sh.exe: *** 1. unable to allocate heap 0xA01,
> heap_chunk_size 268435456, pid 16244, Win32 error 0
>   0 [main] sh 12836 sync_with_child: child 16244(0x1C0) died before
> initialization with status code 0x1
> 815 [main] sh 12836 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
> /bin/libtoolize: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
> C:\JTSDK\msys\bin\sh.exe: *** 1. unable to allocate heap 0xA01,
> heap_chunk_size 268435456, pid 15140, Win32 error 0
>   0 [main] sh 16244 sync_with_child: child 15140(0x1B8) died before
> initialization with status code 0x1
>  76 [main] sh 16244 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
> /bin/libtoolize: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
>
> Any help welcome.
>
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[wsjt-devel] Hamlib compile problem

2017-03-05 Thread Colin99 Campbell
Hi all,

I'm just going through the installation of  JTSDK following the instructions at 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jtsdk/files/win32/2.0.0/ but I can't get 
Hamlib to build. I tried with the default QT version 5.2 but when that failed I 
changed to version 5.5. The result was the same.  At the start of  the program 
I get this message about not being able to allocate the heap. I ran the program 
as administrator but it made no odds.


Running 'autoreconf -i' to process configure.ac
and generate the configure script.
C:\JTSDK\msys\bin\sh.exe: *** 1. unable to allocate heap 0xA01, 
heap_chunk_size 268435456, pid 16244, Win32 error 0
  0 [main] sh 12836 sync_with_child: child 16244(0x1C0) died before 
initialization with status code 0x1
815 [main] sh 12836 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/bin/libtoolize: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
C:\JTSDK\msys\bin\sh.exe: *** 1. unable to allocate heap 0xA01, 
heap_chunk_size 268435456, pid 15140, Win32 error 0
  0 [main] sh 16244 sync_with_child: child 15140(0x1B8) died before 
initialization with status code 0x1
 76 [main] sh 16244 sync_with_child: *** child state waiting for longjmp
/bin/libtoolize: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable


Any help welcome.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] PreAmp SDR settings

2017-03-05 Thread Clemens Heese
Dear Bill,

Thanks for the tip. I will give that a try.

---
73 de Clemens / DL2ZZ / PA7T

On 2017-03-03 19:48, Bill Somerville wrote:
> On 03/03/2017 18:17, Clemens Heese wrote:
>> Somehow I have a similar issue. Using an SDR (RedPitaya) with a 
>> variable
>> gain amplifier as preamp (and a 30 MHz low pass). I am wondering how 
>> to
>> best set the preamp. Currently I have just experimentally set the gain
>> to get most decodes in 24h (weighted by my reference station)
> 
> Hi Clemens,
> 
> empirical testing is hard to beat.
> 
> Other than that I can't see any serious problem with the following 
> approach:
> 
> use a two way aerial coax switch with your aerial and a dummy load.
> Adjust the preamp gain to the minimum level where switching to the 
> dummy
> load reduces the background noise. Turn the gain up a notch to allow 
> for
> noise QSB.
> 
> My thinking is that an amplifier is a source of noise which may be
> directly related to gain setting so using the minimum level that 
> doesn't
> loose the band noise floor is probably best.
> 
> I'm sure the EME operators will have more scientific methods for 
> setting
> pre-amp gain. No doubt some will ask which end of the feeder the 
> pre-amp
> is located.
> 
> YMMV, 73
> Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Greg Beam
Hi Dan,

The shell script for building Hamlib can be found at:

C:\JTSDK\sctipts\msys-build-hamlib3.sh

On or about line 254 is the make command, just add the V=1 after it:

make V=1

if that is what Bill needs.

Because it's a script doing the work, just tee the output to a file from 
within MSYS (there is an alias to call the script):

build-hamlib3 |tee -a hamlib3-build.log

That should scroll the build on the screen and create a build log for you.

73's
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On 3/4/2017 12:57 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
> On 04/03/2017 19:21, Dan Malcolm wrote:
>> v5.8.8 built for msys-64int
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> ok, that also is fine. I need to see the full and verbose Hamlib build
> output. Problem is I'm not sure how to do that with the JTSDK, maybe
> Greg is lurking and can help out. What is needed is to add V=1 to the
> Hamlib make command and also to redirect all the output (stderr and
> stdout) to a log file. Then zip and send me that file please?
>
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Dan Malcolm
Greg,
Bill thinks adding V=1 to the make command line may show something.  Neither
of us know how to do that in JTSDK.  Can you help with that?

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-Original Message-
From: Greg Beam [mailto:ki7m...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:46 AM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

Hi Dan,

I was mistaken on the msys-64int. I checked my version of Perl via different
method that only yields the version number. Using --version on my
installation also returns 64int in the name. I also checked the dll headers
with dumpbin and it's definitely a 32 bit dll, so you can take that rabbit
trail off the table, sorry about that.

I've tried several methods to reproduce the error your seeing, but, have had
no luck thus far. At present, I am at a loss as to what is causing your
error.

73's
Greg, KI7MT



> On 03/04/2017 06:35 PM, Dan Malcolm wrote:
>> Ok Bill,
>> That's no problem if someone can tell me how exactly.  I found the 
>> Autoconf file but the text says not to directly edit it, so I didn't.  
>> I also didn't find any place to edit the make command line.
>>
>> _
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>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 1:57 PM
>> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error
>>
>> On 04/03/2017 19:21, Dan Malcolm wrote:
>>> v5.8.8 built for msys-64int
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> ok, that also is fine. I need to see the full and verbose Hamlib 
>> build output. Problem is I'm not sure how to do that with the JTSDK, 
>> maybe Greg is lurking and can help out. What is needed is to add V=1 
>> to the Hamlib make command and also to redirect all the output 
>> (stderr and
>> stdout) to a log file. Then zip and send me that file please?
>>
>> 73
>> Bill
>> G4WJS.
>>


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Dan Malcolm
Actually I was surprised to see it was 64 bit also, but since there is a lot
I don't know about JTSDK, I thought that was normal.  At least until I read
your email I did.  This info is on a fresh install.  When this problem
started and rebooting didn't solve it, I uninstalled JTSDK, downloaded all
new packages from Sourceforge, and then reinstalled.  The packages I
downloaded are:
JTSDK-2.0.0-u1-win32.exe
JTSDK-2.0.0-u2-win32.exe
JTSDK-2.0.0-u3-win32.exe
JTSDK-2.0.0-u4-win32.exe
JTSDK-2.0.0-win32.exe

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Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 12:15 AM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

Hi Dan, Bill,

I'm not sure how Dan got a 64-bit version of MSYS Perl installed, as the
installer I created had 32bit MSYS. All of the software in JTSDK is 32bit,
as are the WSJT packages it creates, unless something has changed.

Dan, Are you sure that Perl is 64bit and not 32bit?

73's
Greg, KI7MT

On 03/04/2017 06:35 PM, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> Ok Bill,
> That's no problem if someone can tell me how exactly.  I found the 
> Autoconf file but the text says not to directly edit it, so I didn't.  
> I also didn't find any place to edit the make command line.
> 
> _
> Dan Malcolm CFI/II
> K4SHQ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 1:57 PM
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error
> 
> On 04/03/2017 19:21, Dan Malcolm wrote:
>> v5.8.8 built for msys-64int
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> ok, that also is fine. I need to see the full and verbose Hamlib build 
> output. Problem is I'm not sure how to do that with the JTSDK, maybe 
> Greg is lurking and can help out. What is needed is to add V=1 to the 
> Hamlib make command and also to redirect all the output (stderr and
> stdout) to a log file. Then zip and send me that file please?
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error

2017-03-05 Thread Greg Beam
Hi Dan,

I was mistaken on the msys-64int. I checked my version of Perl via 
different method that only yields the version number. Using --version on 
my installation also returns 64int in the name. I also checked the dll 
headers with dumpbin and it's definitely a 32 bit dll, so you can take 
that rabbit trail off the table, sorry about that.

I've tried several methods to reproduce the error your seeing, but, have 
had no luck thus far. At present, I am at a loss as to what is causing 
your error.

73's
Greg, KI7MT



> On 03/04/2017 06:35 PM, Dan Malcolm wrote:
>> Ok Bill,
>> That's no problem if someone can tell me how exactly.  I found the Autoconf
>> file but the text says not to directly edit it, so I didn't.  I also didn't
>> find any place to edit the make command line.
>>
>> _
>> Dan Malcolm CFI/II
>> K4SHQ
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 1:57 PM
>> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib3 compile error
>>
>> On 04/03/2017 19:21, Dan Malcolm wrote:
>>> v5.8.8 built for msys-64int
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> ok, that also is fine. I need to see the full and verbose Hamlib build
>> output. Problem is I'm not sure how to do that with the JTSDK, maybe Greg is
>> lurking and can help out. What is needed is to add V=1 to the Hamlib make
>> command and also to redirect all the output (stderr and
>> stdout) to a log file. Then zip and send me that file please?
>>
>> 73
>> Bill
>> G4WJS.
>>

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