Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.1.2 Status File Error

2019-12-16 Thread Dan Malcolm
Bill,
Agree, but not the point.  Storage in a temporary file or folder is just that, 
temporary.  That said, obviously something is doing what you said, but my 
Malwarebytes and anti-virus and CCleaner are all set to leave that temporary 
subdirectory and file alone.  

I can manually fix the problem by recreating the WSJT-X sub-folder and then 
restarting WSJT-X or changing something in WSJT-X.  One of the errors occurred 
on WSJT-X startup.  I can live with it, because the errors happen 
intermittently and not frequently.  This started as just a question.  Why, when 
WSJT-X finds the error, can't it re-establish the folder and file.  If the 
developers view this as an extremely low priority, that's fine.  You are busy 
and frankly if I were one of you, it wouldn't be high on my radar either.  So 
it's just a question.

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-Original Message-
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 6:55 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.1.2 Status File Error

On 17/12/2019 00:41, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> Thanks Jim.
>
> Yes I do have Malwarebytes and an anti-virus running but both have the temp 
> WSJT-X folder and file exempted.  It probably is something that's running but 
> if WSJT-X can't find that directory inside a temp directory, it should just 
> re-create it.  Temp folders and files are by their nature volatile and 
> temporary.
>
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Dan,

this sort of error can happen on Windows when one application holds a file or 
directory open while another deletes a parent directory. Windows appears to 
complete the deletion of the directory but the directory is invisibly preserved 
until the first application closes the file or directory it has open. There is 
no problem with this until a new application instance tries to recreate the 
deleted directory which then fails. WSJT-X deletes it's temporary directory and 
contents upon exit and creates it on entry. I guess some other application is 
holding that directory or a directory or file under it open and interfering 
with WSJT-X's best efforts to use it's own temporary files.

Temporary files are not volatile by nature, they are simply files that are 
created and used by an application until it has finished with them. 
They should not be opened by other applications which have no business meddling 
with internal WSJT-X data.

73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.1.2 Status File Error

2019-12-16 Thread Bill Somerville

On 17/12/2019 00:41, Dan Malcolm wrote:

Thanks Jim.

Yes I do have Malwarebytes and an anti-virus running but both have the temp 
WSJT-X folder and file exempted.  It probably is something that's running but 
if WSJT-X can't find that directory inside a temp directory, it should just 
re-create it.  Temp folders and files are by their nature volatile and 
temporary.

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Dan,

this sort of error can happen on Windows when one application holds a 
file or directory open while another deletes a parent directory. Windows 
appears to complete the deletion of the directory but the directory is 
invisibly preserved until the first application closes the file or 
directory it has open. There is no problem with this until a new 
application instance tries to recreate the deleted directory which then 
fails. WSJT-X deletes it's temporary directory and contents upon exit 
and creates it on entry. I guess some other application is holding that 
directory or a directory or file under it open and interfering with 
WSJT-X's best efforts to use it's own temporary files.


Temporary files are not volatile by nature, they are simply files that 
are created and used by an application until it has finished with them. 
They should not be opened by other applications which have no business 
meddling with internal WSJT-X data.


73
Bill
G4WJS.



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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.1.2 Status File Error

2019-12-16 Thread Dan Malcolm
Thanks Jim.  

Yes I do have Malwarebytes and an anti-virus running but both have the temp 
WSJT-X folder and file exempted.  It probably is something that's running but 
if WSJT-X can't find that directory inside a temp directory, it should just 
re-create it.  Temp folders and files are by their nature volatile and 
temporary.

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CFI/II

-Original Message-
From: Jim Preston [mailto:jprest...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 3:11 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.1.2 Status File Error

Dan,

AFAIK, the wsjtx_status.txt file is created every time wsjt-x is started, and 
is deleted every time wsjt-x is closed. If it is disappearing while wsjt-x is 
running, it might well be some other program is deleting it. The same is true 
for the entire subfolder. Stop any other running programs that might do this, 
and see if that makes a difference. Do you have Malwarebytes running at the 
same time as your AV? Is CCleaner running all the time? Do you have some 
program set to automatically delete tmp files or directories? Thse would all be 
places to check.

If it is a case of some program automatically deleting tmp files and folders, 
this can probably be turned off, or adjusted so that it doesn't happen as often.

73,

Jim N6VH

On 12/14/2019 5:15 PM, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> I keep getting an error reporting that WSJT-X can't find its status 
> file.  The reported path is 
> "C:/Users//AppData/Local/Temp/WSJT-X/wsjtx_status.txt".  I 
> can see why it can't find it and that's because the ".Temp/WSJT-X" 
> subfolder is missing.  Obviously something on my Win10 system is 
> removing it.  I don't know what application is doing it, but it's 
> probably CCleaner or my anti-virus or Malwarebytes.  I can probably 
> figure that out.  My question though is; shouldn't WSJT-X be a little more 
> fault tolerant?
> Anything in a temp directory is subject to disappearing.  If the 
> sub-folder can't be found, recreate it.
> 
> I know from past experience with this fault, that manually creating 
> the WSJT-X sub-folder in "Temp" will fix the problem.  I can recreate 
> the problem by changing bands in WSJT-X, after a successful launch, in 
> which I don't have the problem.  The problem appears intermittently, 
> but keeps happening until I do a manual fix.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] False Frequency reports

2019-12-16 Thread Lee Sawkins
 I found this discussion from 2017 in the archives.   As far as I know, this 
problem has not been fixed.   With CAT enabled here, if I change bands just at 
the wrong time, the reported frequencies of decoded FT4 or FT8 spots are all on 
the new band.  Could this not be fixed by remembering the frequency of the 
radio before the decoding began and using it in the reported signal reports?

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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.1.2 Status File Error

2019-12-16 Thread Jim Preston

Dan,

AFAIK, the wsjtx_status.txt file is created every time wsjt-x is 
started, and is deleted every time wsjt-x is closed. If it is 
disappearing while wsjt-x is running, it might well be some other 
program is deleting it. The same is true for the entire subfolder. Stop 
any other running programs that might do this, and see if that makes a 
difference. Do you have Malwarebytes running at the same time as your 
AV? Is CCleaner running all the time? Do you have some program set to 
automatically delete tmp files or directories? Thse would all be places 
to check.


If it is a case of some program automatically deleting tmp files and 
folders, this can probably be turned off, or adjusted so that it doesn't 
happen as often.


73,

Jim N6VH

On 12/14/2019 5:15 PM, Dan Malcolm wrote:
I keep getting an error reporting that WSJT-X can’t find its status 
file.  The reported path is 
“C:/Users//AppData/Local/Temp/WSJT-X/wsjtx_status.txt”.  I can 
see why it can’t find it and that’s because the “…Temp/WSJT-X” subfolder 
is missing.  Obviously something on my Win10 system is removing it.  I 
don’t know what application is doing it, but it’s probably CCleaner or 
my anti-virus or Malwarebytes.  I can probably figure that out.  My 
question though is; shouldn’t WSJT-X be a little more fault tolerant?  
Anything in a temp directory is subject to disappearing.  If the 
sub-folder can’t be found, recreate it.


I know from past experience with this fault, that manually creating the 
WSJT-X sub-folder in “Temp” will fix the problem.  I can recreate the 
problem by changing bands in WSJT-X, after a successful launch, in which 
I don’t have the problem.  The problem appears intermittently, but keeps 
happening until I do a manual fix.


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