Re: [wsjt-devel] Fwd: Re: r7848 TX starts within cycle

2017-07-11 Thread Wolfgang
Hello Joe,

Tuesday, July 11, 2017, 7:04:42 PM, you wrote:

> I think you are objecting to the ability to start a transmission after
> the nominl start time, thus ensuring that only some fraction of the 
> normal number of symbols will be sent.

> If I have understood you correctly, I  do not understand why you would
> object to this behavior.  All WSJT-X modes except ISCAT include 
> sufficient forward error correction that even if (say) 1/3 of a 
> transmission is missing, decoding may still succeed.

agree, the forward error correction will do it's best.

Due to the short turn-over of 15 seconds, one has to carefully check
when to start CQ, otherwise only a part of the message is sent out, 
with the hope it gets decoded by someone. With JT65 one got a full 
minute to consider to start with even or odd.

A more elegant solution would be, the transmission starts at the
beginning of the selected periode.

But, as Mike, W9MDB, once said: it's '...a wee case of semantics'

73 de Wolfgang
OE1MWW

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Fwd: Re: r7848 TX starts within cycle

2017-07-11 Thread Joe Taylor

Hi Wolfgang,

On 7/11/2017 12:22 PM, Wolfgang OE1MWW wrote:



If I have "TX even/1st" unchecked and I "Enable TX",
the transmission starts with CQ, disregarding the 15 sec. cycle time.


I checked that again, this can happen twice a minute, depends on the
setting and the activation of "Enable TX".

Nevertheless, I think in terms of a 'clean protocol', this should not
be possible, to start transmission during the cycle. It will send out
an un-complete message, because at the end of the cyle the TX goes off
again.

73 de Wolfgang
OE1MWW


I think you are objecting to the ability to start a transmission after 
the nominl start time, thus ensuring that only some fraction of the 
normal number of symbols will be sent.


If I have understood you correctly, I  do not understand why you would 
object to this behavior.  All WSJT-X modes except ISCAT include 
sufficient forward error correction that even if (say) 1/3 of a 
transmission is missing, decoding may still succeed.


-- 73, Joe, K1JT

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[wsjt-devel] Fwd: Re: r7848 TX starts within cycle

2017-07-11 Thread Wolfgang


>> If I have "TX even/1st" unchecked and I "Enable TX",
>> the transmission starts with CQ, disregarding the 15 sec. cycle time.

I checked that again, this can happen twice a minute, depends on the
setting and the activation of "Enable TX".

Nevertheless, I think in terms of a 'clean protocol', this should not
be possible, to start transmission during the cycle. It will send out
an un-complete message, because at the end of the cyle the TX goes off
again.

73 de Wolfgang
OE1MWW



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