Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hi Mike, Uwe, It worked. I set parameter 109 from DATA to USB, but still had no output. Then searched a bit further and saw parameter 106 SSB MIC select. This was on MIC and should be on rear. Thank you both for your help! Kind regards, Van: "DG2YCB Uwe" Aan: "on4ckt" , "wsjt-devel" , "Black Michael" Verzonden: Dinsdag 29 augustus 2023 20:39:32 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib Hi Rudy, Ensure you use DATA-USB mode at your Yaesu FT-991 ( not USB). Important are also the following menu settings at your FT-991: 072=USB. 73 de DG2YCB, Uwe German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB Dr. Uwe Risse eMail: [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | dg2...@gmx.de ] Info: [ http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB | www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB ] Am 29.08.2023 um 18:53 schrieb [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | on4...@telenet.be ] : Hi Uwe, Mike Problem has already been partly solved. Parameter 033 CAT RTS was set to disable in the transceiver. I set this to Enable and the CAT control worked, as well as the PTT control. I also have reception, so I see stations appear on the screen, but when I go on a broadcast, there is no power from the transceiver. It seems that there is no modulation going through the CAT to the transceiver, because when I take the microphone and I whistle into the microphone, I do see power coming out of the transceiver. Still, I think the audio setting is correct, input is on microphone (USB audio codec) and the autput is on speakers (USB audio codec). I have already checked the volume setting of the microphone audio code and it is set to 80%. Do you have any suggestions/tips? Regards, ON4CKT Rudy Van: "DG2YCB Uwe" [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | ] Aan: "on4ckt" [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | ] Verzonden: Dinsdag 29 augustus 2023 11:35:15 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib Really strange. Or is perhaps com0com breaking the connection? What happens if you temporarily disable com0com and use COM3 only for WSJT-X? But in case FreeDV supports OmniRig, I would really recommend you OmniRig 1.20. It is a much better solution than com0com. 73 de DG2YCB, Uwe German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB Dr. Uwe Risse eMail: [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | dg2...@gmx.de ] Info: [ http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB | www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB ] Am 29.08.2023 um 11:31 schrieb [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | on4...@telenet.be ] : BQ_BEGIN Hi Uwe, Yes I also use that COM port 3 for FreeDV. But I don't use the programs at the same time. And when I start the laptop, just connect the laptop to the FT991 via the USB cable and then start WSJT-X for entering the parameters in the radio tab, then after setting those parameters when I press OK I get that Hamlib mistake. And yes I know you cannot use the same COM port twice, but normally I get a message that the com port is in use. I had this problem on another PC, but I used the com0com program there, and that works fine. Van: "DG2YCB Uwe" [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | ] Aan: "on4ckt" [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | ] Verzonden: Dinsdag 29 augustus 2023 11:24:23 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib Hello Rudy, Allow me a "simple" question: but you don't have COM3 in use via another program, do you? Because a COM port can only be used by one application at the same time. If you need the same COM port for more programs at the same time, OmniRig is a good solution (as long as the programs support it, WSJT-X does). 73 de DG2YCB, Uwe German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB Dr. Uwe Risse eMail: [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | dg2...@gmx.de ] Info: [ http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB | www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB ] Am 29.08.2023 um 10:52 schrieb [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | on4...@telenet.be ] : BQ_BEGIN Dear Uwe, As far as the COM ports and the device manager are concerned, I had already tested and seen which ports were added. That was com ports 3 and 4. I tested both to no avail. And I'm sure it's com 3 that I have to use, because in the program FreeDV (digital voice over HF) I also use the CAT control, and everything works fine there. But I'll go through all the parameters again and see if I'm wrong. I'll keep you informed. ON4CKT Rudy Van: "Uwe, DG2YCB" [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | ] Aan: "on4ckt" [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | ] Verzonden: Maandag 28 augustus 2023 20:38:56 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib Hello Rudy, As a very first test, I recommend that you start your computer without a physical USB connection to your FT-991. Then open the Windows device manager and see, which COM ports are available. If you then already see COM3 and COM4, it means that they are for something else. Then connect your USB cable to your PC and switch the FT-991 on while the device mana
Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hi Rudy,
Ensure you use DATA-USB mode at your Yaesu FT-991 (*not* USB). Important
are also the following menu settings at your FT-991: 072=USB.
73 de DG2YCB,
Uwe
German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB
Dr. Uwe Risse
eMail: dg2...@gmx.de
Info: www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB
Am 29.08.2023 um 18:53 schrieb on4...@telenet.be:
Hi Uwe, Mike
Problem has already been partly solved. Parameter 033 CAT RTS was set
to disable in the transceiver. I set this to Enable and the CAT
control worked, as well as the PTT control. I also have reception, so
I see stations appear on the screen, but when I go on a broadcast,
there is no power from the transceiver. It seems that there is no
modulation going through the CAT to the transceiver, because when I
take the microphone and I whistle into the microphone, I do see power
coming out of the transceiver. Still, I think the audio setting is
correct, input is on microphone (USB audio codec) and the autput is on
speakers (USB audio codec). I have already checked the volume setting
of the microphone audio code and it is set to 80%.
Do you have any suggestions/tips?
Regards,
ON4CKT Rudy
*Van: *"DG2YCB Uwe"
*Aan: *"on4ckt"
*Verzonden: *Dinsdag 29 augustus 2023 11:35:15
*Onderwerp: *Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Really strange. Or is perhaps com0com breaking the connection? What
happens if you temporarily disable com0com and use COM3 only for WSJT-X?
But in case FreeDV supports OmniRig, I would really recommend you
OmniRig 1.20. It is a *much* better solution than com0com.
73 de DG2YCB,
Uwe
German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB
Dr. Uwe Risse
eMail: dg2...@gmx.de
Info: www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB <http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB>
Am 29.08.2023 um 11:31 schrieb on4...@telenet.be:
Hi Uwe,
Yes I also use that COM port 3 for FreeDV. But I don't use the
programs at the same time.
And when I start the laptop, just connect the laptop to the FT991
via the USB cable and then start WSJT-X for entering the
parameters in the radio tab, then after setting those parameters
when I press OK I get that Hamlib mistake. And yes I know you
cannot use the same COM port twice, but normally I get a message
that the com port is in use. I had this problem on another PC, but
I used the com0com program there, and that works fine.
*Van: *"DG2YCB Uwe" <mailto:dg2...@gmx.de>
*Aan: *"on4ckt" <mailto:on4...@telenet.be>
*Verzonden: *Dinsdag 29 augustus 2023 11:24:23
*Onderwerp: *Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hello Rudy,
Allow me a "simple" question: but you don't have COM3 in use via
another program, do you? Because a COM port can only be used by
one application at the same time.
If you need the same COM port for more programs at the same time,
OmniRig is a good solution (as long as the programs support it,
WSJT-X does).
73 de DG2YCB,
Uwe
German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB
Dr. Uwe Risse
eMail: dg2...@gmx.de
Info: www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB <http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB>
Am 29.08.2023 um 10:52 schrieb on4...@telenet.be:
Dear Uwe,
As far as the COM ports and the device manager are concerned,
I had already tested and seen which ports were added. That was
com ports 3 and 4. I tested both to no avail. And I'm sure
it's com 3 that I have to use, because in the program FreeDV
(digital voice over HF) I also use the CAT control, and
everything works fine there. But I'll go through all the
parameters again and see if I'm wrong. I'll keep you informed.
ON4CKT Rudy
*Van: *"Uwe, DG2YCB" <mailto:dg2...@gmx.de>
*Aan: *"on4ckt" <mailto:on4...@telenet.be>
*Verzonden: *Maandag 28 augustus 2023 20:38:56
*Onderwerp: *Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hello Rudy,
As a very first test, I recommend that you start your computer
without a physical USB connection to your FT-991. Then open
the Windows device manager and see, which COM ports are
available. If you then already see COM3 and COM4, it means
that they are for something else. Then connect your USB cable
to your PC and switch the FT-991 on while the device manager
is still open. Now you must see two new COM ports. Your CAT
can then be connected via one of these newly visible COM ports.
But be careful. At my FT-991, two times the virtual USB COM
ports were broken. The first time it was within the warranty
Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hi Uwe, Mike Problem has already been partly solved. Parameter 033 CAT RTS was set to disable in the transceiver. I set this to Enable and the CAT control worked, as well as the PTT control. I also have reception, so I see stations appear on the screen, but when I go on a broadcast, there is no power from the transceiver. It seems that there is no modulation going through the CAT to the transceiver, because when I take the microphone and I whistle into the microphone, I do see power coming out of the transceiver. Still, I think the audio setting is correct, input is on microphone (USB audio codec) and the autput is on speakers (USB audio codec). I have already checked the volume setting of the microphone audio code and it is set to 80%. Do you have any suggestions/tips? Regards, ON4CKT Rudy Van: "DG2YCB Uwe" Aan: "on4ckt" Verzonden: Dinsdag 29 augustus 2023 11:35:15 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib Really strange. Or is perhaps com0com breaking the connection? What happens if you temporarily disable com0com and use COM3 only for WSJT-X? But in case FreeDV supports OmniRig, I would really recommend you OmniRig 1.20. It is a much better solution than com0com. 73 de DG2YCB, Uwe German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB Dr. Uwe Risse eMail: [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | dg2...@gmx.de ] Info: [ http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB | www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB ] Am 29.08.2023 um 11:31 schrieb [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | on4...@telenet.be ] : Hi Uwe, Yes I also use that COM port 3 for FreeDV. But I don't use the programs at the same time. And when I start the laptop, just connect the laptop to the FT991 via the USB cable and then start WSJT-X for entering the parameters in the radio tab, then after setting those parameters when I press OK I get that Hamlib mistake. And yes I know you cannot use the same COM port twice, but normally I get a message that the com port is in use. I had this problem on another PC, but I used the com0com program there, and that works fine. Van: "DG2YCB Uwe" [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | ] Aan: "on4ckt" [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | ] Verzonden: Dinsdag 29 augustus 2023 11:24:23 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib Hello Rudy, Allow me a "simple" question: but you don't have COM3 in use via another program, do you? Because a COM port can only be used by one application at the same time. If you need the same COM port for more programs at the same time, OmniRig is a good solution (as long as the programs support it, WSJT-X does). 73 de DG2YCB, Uwe German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB Dr. Uwe Risse eMail: [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | dg2...@gmx.de ] Info: [ http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB | www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB ] Am 29.08.2023 um 10:52 schrieb [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | on4...@telenet.be ] : BQ_BEGIN Dear Uwe, As far as the COM ports and the device manager are concerned, I had already tested and seen which ports were added. That was com ports 3 and 4. I tested both to no avail. And I'm sure it's com 3 that I have to use, because in the program FreeDV (digital voice over HF) I also use the CAT control, and everything works fine there. But I'll go through all the parameters again and see if I'm wrong. I'll keep you informed. ON4CKT Rudy Van: "Uwe, DG2YCB" [ mailto:dg2...@gmx.de | ] Aan: "on4ckt" [ mailto:on4...@telenet.be | ] Verzonden: Maandag 28 augustus 2023 20:38:56 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib Hello Rudy, As a very first test, I recommend that you start your computer without a physical USB connection to your FT-991. Then open the Windows device manager and see, which COM ports are available. If you then already see COM3 and COM4, it means that they are for something else. Then connect your USB cable to your PC and switch the FT-991 on while the device manager is still open. Now you must see two new COM ports. Your CAT can then be connected via one of these newly visible COM ports. But be careful. At my FT-991, two times the virtual USB COM ports were broken. The first time it was within the warranty period. As far as I know they had to exchange the entire main board. But when it broke again the second time, I left it broken. USB audio still works, but not the two USB serial ports. Fortunately, the RS232 socket of my FT-991 still works well. That's the reason why I am using this now (meaning that I need a second cable besides a USB cable which is still necessary for the USB audio connection). But the connectivity of the FT-991 is identical for RS232 and the virtual USB COM port (also the settings within WSJT-X). It goes internally to the same I/O chip. For the USB COM ports, there is just one chip in front of this I/O chip, which I assume is broken somehow. The only disadvantage via RS232 is that I have
Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Shut down WSJTX. Rename C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\WSJT-X\WSJT-X.ini Then start WSJTX again -- it will be new config. See if that fixed the problem. If it does please send in the old WSJT-X.ini file. Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 12:39:25 AM CDT, on4...@telenet.be wrote: Hi Mike, hanks for the info. But I have already tested both COM ports. I had seen in device manager and there COM ports 3 and 4 were assigned. I have tested both but always with the Hamlib error message. I'm going to compare this evening again with the settings that Uwe, DG2YCB sent me. I may find a solution there. I'll keep you informed. Thanks in advance. ON4CKT Rudy - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: "Black Michael via wsjt-devel" Aan: "on4ckt--- via wsjt-devel" Cc: "Black Michael" Verzonden: Maandag 28 augustus 2023 23:08:50 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib That makes it sound like it's the wrong port. You should have two COM ports -- the Extended port is the one you want. Mike W9MDB On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:07:56 AM CDT, on4ckt--- via wsjt-devel wrote: Hello, today I tried to install WSJT-X v2.7.0-rc2 on my laptop Windows10 and connect via CAT to my Yaesu FT991. But I get the following error message in WSJT-X. Hamlib error: rig_settings_get_path: path=.hamlib_settings rig_settings_load_all: settings_file (.hamlib_settings): No such file or directory rig_open: cwd=C:\WSJT\wsjtx rig_open: C:\WSJT\wsjtx/hamlib_settings does not exist rig_open: async_data_enable=1, async_data_supported=0 serial_open: COM3 serial_setup: tcgetattr serial_setup: cfsetispeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: cfsetospeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: data_bits=8 serial_setup: parity=0 serial_setup: Handshake=Hardware serial_setup: tcsetattr TCSANOW serial_setup: tcsetattr failed: No error port_open: serial_open(COM3) status=-2, err=No error rig_open: rs->comm_state==0?=0 rig.c(1069):rig_open returning2(-2) Invalid configuration Invalid configuration Invalid configuration while opening connection to rig Timestamp: 2023-08-28T14:46:31.621Z On the transceiver I have adjusted the following parameters: 029=38400, 030=10msec, 031=38400, 062=OTHERS, 064=1500Hz, 066=OFF, 068=OFF, 070=REAR, 071=DAKY and 072=USB. Can someone help me further with this. Thanks in advance. -- 73's ON4CKT Rudy https://www.qsl.net/on4ckt ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel -- 73's ON4CKT Rudy https://www.qsl.net/on4ckt ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hi Uwe, I have used the same serial port for CAT (no PTT) and DTR or RTS for PTT with my FT1000MP, but of course you can’t have at the same time a hardware flow control. 73 Reino OH3mA I use CAT. If you have DTR or RTS selected, make sure the COM port for that is different from the CAT serial port. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hi Mike, hanks for the info. But I have already tested both COM ports. I had seen in device manager and there COM ports 3 and 4 were assigned. I have tested both but always with the Hamlib error message. I'm going to compare this evening again with the settings that Uwe, DG2YCB sent me. I may find a solution there. I'll keep you informed. Thanks in advance. ON4CKT Rudy - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: "Black Michael via wsjt-devel" Aan: "on4ckt--- via wsjt-devel" Cc: "Black Michael" Verzonden: Maandag 28 augustus 2023 23:08:50 Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib That makes it sound like it's the wrong port. You should have two COM ports -- the Extended port is the one you want. Mike W9MDB On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:07:56 AM CDT, on4ckt--- via wsjt-devel wrote: Hello, today I tried to install WSJT-X v2.7.0-rc2 on my laptop Windows10 and connect via CAT to my Yaesu FT991. But I get the following error message in WSJT-X. Hamlib error: rig_settings_get_path: path=.hamlib_settings rig_settings_load_all: settings_file (.hamlib_settings): No such file or directory rig_open: cwd=C:\WSJT\wsjtx rig_open: C:\WSJT\wsjtx/hamlib_settings does not exist rig_open: async_data_enable=1, async_data_supported=0 serial_open: COM3 serial_setup: tcgetattr serial_setup: cfsetispeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: cfsetospeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: data_bits=8 serial_setup: parity=0 serial_setup: Handshake=Hardware serial_setup: tcsetattr TCSANOW serial_setup: tcsetattr failed: No error port_open: serial_open(COM3) status=-2, err=No error rig_open: rs->comm_state==0?=0 rig.c(1069):rig_open returning2(-2) Invalid configuration Invalid configuration Invalid configuration while opening connection to rig Timestamp: 2023-08-28T14:46:31.621Z On the transceiver I have adjusted the following parameters: 029=38400, 030=10msec, 031=38400, 062=OTHERS, 064=1500Hz, 066=OFF, 068=OFF, 070=REAR, 071=DAKY and 072=USB. Can someone help me further with this. Thanks in advance. -- 73's ON4CKT Rudy https://www.qsl.net/on4ckt ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel -- 73's ON4CKT Rudy https://www.qsl.net/on4ckt ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
That makes it sound like it's the wrong port. You should have two COM ports -- the Extended port is the one you want. Mike W9MDB On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:07:56 AM CDT, on4ckt--- via wsjt-devel wrote: Hello, today I tried to install WSJT-X v2.7.0-rc2 on my laptop Windows10 and connect via CAT to my Yaesu FT991. But I get the following error message in WSJT-X. Hamlib error: rig_settings_get_path: path=.hamlib_settings rig_settings_load_all: settings_file (.hamlib_settings): No such file or directory rig_open: cwd=C:\WSJT\wsjtx rig_open: C:\WSJT\wsjtx/hamlib_settings does not exist rig_open: async_data_enable=1, async_data_supported=0 serial_open: COM3 serial_setup: tcgetattr serial_setup: cfsetispeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: cfsetospeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: data_bits=8 serial_setup: parity=0 serial_setup: Handshake=Hardware serial_setup: tcsetattr TCSANOW serial_setup: tcsetattr failed: No error port_open: serial_open(COM3) status=-2, err=No error rig_open: rs->comm_state==0?=0 rig.c(1069):rig_open returning2(-2) Invalid configuration Invalid configuration Invalid configuration while opening connection to rig Timestamp: 2023-08-28T14:46:31.621Z On the transceiver I have adjusted the following parameters: 029=38400, 030=10msec, 031=38400, 062=OTHERS, 064=1500Hz, 066=OFF, 068=OFF, 070=REAR, 071=DAKY and 072=USB. Can someone help me further with this. Thanks in advance. -- 73's ON4CKT Rudy https://www.qsl.net/on4ckt ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with Hamlib
Hello Rudy, Your settings for the FT-991 seem to be fine. I have the same settings here (and 028=RS232C), and everything works well. How is your PTT connected? I use CAT. If you have DTR or RTS selected, make sure the COM port for that is different from the CAT serial port. Is COM3 the right one? When you open your Windows Device Manager, what COM ports are additionally listed there when you connect your FT-991? 73 de DG2YCB, Uwe German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB Dr. Uwe Risse eMail: dg2...@gmx.de Info: www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB Am 28.08.2023 um 17:01 schrieb on4ckt--- via wsjt-devel: Hello, today I tried to install WSJT-X v2.7.0-rc2 on my laptop Windows10 and connect via CAT to my Yaesu FT991. But I get the following error message in WSJT-X. Hamlib error: rig_settings_get_path: path=.hamlib_settings rig_settings_load_all: settings_file (.hamlib_settings): No such file or directory rig_open: cwd=C:\WSJT\wsjtx rig_open: C:\WSJT\wsjtx/hamlib_settings does not exist rig_open: async_data_enable=1, async_data_supported=0 serial_open: COM3 serial_setup: tcgetattr serial_setup: cfsetispeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: cfsetospeed=38400,0x000f serial_setup: data_bits=8 serial_setup: parity=0 serial_setup: Handshake=Hardware serial_setup: tcsetattr TCSANOW serial_setup: tcsetattr failed: No error port_open: serial_open(COM3) status=-2, err=No error rig_open: rs->comm_state==0?=0 rig.c(1069):rig_open returning2(-2) Invalid configuration Invalid configuration Invalid configuration while opening connection to rig Timestamp: 2023-08-28T14:46:31.621Z On the transceiver I have adjusted the following parameters: 029=38400, 030=10msec, 031=38400, 062=OTHERS, 064=1500Hz, 066=OFF, 068=OFF, 070=REAR, 071=DAKY and 072=USB. Can someone help me further with this. Thanks in advance. -- 73's ON4CKT Rudy https://www.qsl.net/on4ckt ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
