Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS via RDP

2015-02-16 Thread Alan VK2ZIW
Hi Bill,

The synopsis:

If you want to, remotely use WSJT-X with an RDP client

Ubuntu 14.04 LTS doesn't work because of the XRDP implementation.
Fedora 20 x86_64 works fine.
Fedora 21 ARM on headless Banana Pi works fine

So, for the "system builders" out there, putting remote Linux boxes in remote 
sites, use Fedora 20 or 21,
not Ubuntu LTS, at this point of time.

80    ( a rectifier, a problem solver)

Alan VK2ZIW

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:46:23 +, Bill Somerville wrote
> On 15/02/2015 20:21, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Yes, I like your lateral thinking but.
> 
> "Everybody" has "mstsc.exe". So, can we stick to the standard?
> I was not suggesting that you don't. Having said that Microsoft RDPis not a 
> Standard, it is a proprietary protocol tailored for Windowsservers and 
> clients.
> 
> What we "remote system" builders need is, systems "everybody" canuse:
> 
> 1) Connect with the 'standard' RDP.
> 2) Multi-user through the one TCP/IP port.
> 
> So if, for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the answer is "no", we'll buildFedora systems.
> I do not understand this statement.
> 
> You mentioned, you have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on one of your systems ina
> previous email, so have you tried RDP to it?
> If so, please answer "I have the same error" or, "it works forme".
> The error is because of a deficiency in the VNC server that xrdpuses to 
> display the desktop session. All I am suggesting is that youuse a VNC server 
> that doesn't have that deficiency and configurexrdp to use it.
> 
> BTW this is not a WSJT-X issue, if anything it is a Qt issuealthough I don't 
> think so, more likely a missing feature in thedefault vnc server used by 
> Ubuntu. Unfortunately it looks likeTigerVNC is not in the Ubuntu repositories 
> but it does look like itresolves the issue about a missing XKEYBOARD driver.
> 
> Thanks for the great work.
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:16:00 +, BillSomerville wrote
> > On 15/02/2015 11:03, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > Hi Alan,
> > 
> > Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 (the latest LTS version) with"xrdp" 
> > 
> > Can WSJT-X work via RDP ? 
> > 
> > Works fine on Fedora 20. Even Fedora 21 on ARM(Banana Pi, headless). 
> > 
> > Error here: Qt: XKEYBOARD extension not present inthe X server. 
> > Have you tried TigerVNC?
> > 
> > start it with '+kb' added to the 'vncserver' command.
> >  
> > 73 
> > 
> > Alan VK2ZIW 
> > 73
> > Bill
> > G4WJS.
> 
> Alan 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS via RDP

2015-02-15 Thread Bill Somerville

On 15/02/2015 20:21, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:

Hi Bill,

Hi Alan,


Yes, I like your lateral thinking but.

"Everybody" has "mstsc.exe". So, can we stick to the standard?
I was not suggesting that you don't. Having said that Microsoft RDP is 
not a Standard, it is a proprietary protocol tailored for Windows 
servers and clients.


What we "remote system" builders need is, systems "everybody" can use:

1) Connect with the 'standard' RDP.
2) Multi-user through the one TCP/IP port.

So if, for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the answer is "no", we'll build Fedora 
systems.

I do not understand this statement.


You mentioned, you have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on one of your systems in a
previous email, so have you tried RDP to it?
If so, please answer "I have the same error" or, "it works for me".
The error is because of a deficiency in the VNC server that xrdp uses to 
display the desktop session. All I am suggesting is that you use a VNC 
server that doesn't have that deficiency and configure xrdp to use it.


BTW this is not a WSJT-X issue, if anything it is a Qt issue although I 
don't think so, more likely a missing feature in the default vnc server 
used by Ubuntu. Unfortunately it looks like TigerVNC is not in the 
Ubuntu repositories but it does look like it resolves the issue about a 
missing XKEYBOARD driver.


Thanks for the great work.

Alan VK2ZIW

73
Bill
G4WJS.



*On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:16:00 +, Bill Somerville wrote*
> On 15/02/2015 11:03, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
>

*Hi,
> *

*Hi Alan,*
>

*
> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 (the latest LTS version) with "xrdp"
>
> Can WSJT-X work via RDP ?
>
> Works fine on Fedora 20. Even Fedora 21 on ARM (Banana Pi, headless).
>
> Error here: Qt: XKEYBOARD extension not present in the X server.
> *

*Have you tried TigerVNC?
>
> start it with '+kb' added to the 'vncserver' command.
> *

*
> 73
>
> Alan VK2ZIW
> *

*73
> Bill
> G4WJS.*


Alan

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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS via RDP

2015-02-15 Thread Alan VK2ZIW
Hi Bill,

Yes, I like your lateral thinking but.

"Everybody" has "mstsc.exe". So, can we stick to the standard?

What we "remote system" builders need is, systems "everybody" can use:

1) Connect with the 'standard' RDP.
2) Multi-user through the one TCP/IP port.

So if, for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the answer is "no", we'll build Fedora systems.

You mentioned, you have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on one of your systems in a
previous email, so have you tried RDP to it?
If so, please answer "I have the same error" or, "it works for me".

Thanks for the great work.

Alan VK2ZIW

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:16:00 +, Bill Somerville wrote
> On 15/02/2015 11:03, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> Hi,
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 (the latest LTS version) with "xrdp"
> 
> Can WSJT-X work via RDP ?
> 
> Works fine on Fedora 20. Even Fedora 21 on ARM (Banana Pi,headless).
> 
> Error here: Qt: XKEYBOARD extension not present in the Xserver.
> Have you tried TigerVNC?
> 
> start it with '+kb' added to the 'vncserver' command.
> 
> 73
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.

Alan

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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS via RDP

2015-02-15 Thread Bill Somerville

On 15/02/2015 11:03, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:

*Hi,
*

*Hi Alan,*

*
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 (the latest LTS version) with "xrdp"

Can WSJT-X work via RDP ?

Works fine on Fedora 20. Even Fedora 21 on ARM (Banana Pi, headless).

Error here: Qt: XKEYBOARD extension not present in the X server.
*

*Have you tried TigerVNC?

start it with '+kb' added to the 'vncserver' command.
*

*
73

Alan VK2ZIW
*

*73
Bill
G4WJS.*
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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS via RDP

2015-02-15 Thread Alan VK2ZIW
Hi,

Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 (the latest LTS version) with "xrdp"

Can WSJT-X work via RDP ?

Works fine on Fedora 20. Even Fedora 21 on ARM (Banana Pi, headless).

Error here: Qt: XKEYBOARD extension not present in the X server.

73

Alan VK2ZIW

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 00:50:35 +, Bill Somerville wrote
> On 14/02/2015 20:56, Josh Rovero wrote:
> 
> Hi Josh,
> 
> Noticed same initial delay, but then decodes werenoticeably faster than before
> 
> Maybe there should be an indication in the GUI that thefftwisdom run is
> in progressI have added a progress bar to show that something useful 
> ishappening when the FFT optimization is happening.
> 
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> G4WJS.

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