Re: [X2go-dev] about the mailing list...
Dear Heinz, On Di 29 Jun 2010 07:28:33 CEST Heinz-M. Graesing wrote: ...I didn't want to complain about the list itself. There are some people that don't want to be member of the list, but contacting me on all the topics on the list. So communication by the list is exacly what we wan't and what is a very good proof of concept. :-) Some day between some releases we'll move the list to our own server so that we have more control about the preferences. There were some very nice discussions about that topic on linuxtag, even with some really good software advice. Again, what some people here are trying to say: delegate this work to someone else, e.g. someone listening to these postings. For example: (a) I have a production mail system up and running, including a well configured mailman. Just drop a note... (b) If you prefer having a mailman server in your domain, setup a VM and give me ssh access (with sudo capabilities) to it. I will set it up for you... (it will need some aliasing etc. on your main mail machine, though. But, just say, please do it. Again thank you for your ideas and help Welcome, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 eMail-LeseSchreibStunde: wochentags 8h-10h mail: m.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
[X2go-dev] about the mailing list...
Hello all new to the list, I just wan't to comment on a number of complaints about the needed membership to write to the mailing list x2go-dev. At the moment you can only write to the list, after you've registered your email address. This is done, because if everybody can write to the list we would receive a lot of spam. I have to delete really a lot of non accepted/hold messages per day which are normally spam only. I can understand, that not everybody wants to register to such a service - but the very popular alternative forum needs registration too. I need to write about this issue, because there are complaints about the level which must be taken to send informations to our project/community. I'll describe how to handle the list in our new wiki, and I'll definitly promote the service of gmane (making a list look like a forum). Heinz ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] about the mailing list...
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 21:37 +0200, Heinz-M. Graesing wrote: Hello all new to the list, I just wan't to comment on a number of complaints about the needed membership to write to the mailing list x2go-dev. At the moment you can only write to the list, after you've registered your email address. This is done, because if everybody can write to the list we would receive a lot of spam. I have to delete really a lot of non accepted/hold messages per day which are normally spam only. I can understand, that not everybody wants to register to such a service - but the very popular alternative forum needs registration too. I need to write about this issue, because there are complaints about the level which must be taken to send informations to our project/community. I'll describe how to handle the list in our new wiki, and I'll definitly promote the service of gmane (making a list look like a forum). snip No complaints here; I really appreciate the SPAM free list - John ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] about the mailing list...
Heinz, I would hope people would understand the huge amount of work it takes especially for a small team to maintain the communication. Gmane is really excellent and you can choose which format that you like to view the content. So a mailing list can look like a blog, a forum, a newsfeed, etc. x2go is looking good in the latest versions. Looking forward to testing the new release when it is ready. Gerry Jun 28, 2010 03:37:58 PM, x2go-dev@lists.berlios.de wrote: Hello all new to the list, I just wan't to comment on a number of complaints about the needed membership to write to the mailing list x2go-dev. At the moment you can only write to the list, after you've registered your email address. This is done, because if everybody can write to the list we would receive a lot of spam. I have to delete really a lot of non accepted/hold messages per day which are normally spam only. I can understand, that not everybody wants to register to such a service - but the very popular alternative forum needs registration too. I need to write about this issue, because there are complaints about the level which must be taken to send informations to our project/community. I'll describe how to handle the list in our new wiki, and I'll definitly promote the service of gmane (making a list look like a forum). Heinz ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] about the mailing list...
On 28 June 2010 21:37, Heinz-M. Graesing x2go-...@x2go.org wrote: [snip] This is done, because if everybody can write to the list we would receive a lot of spam. I have to delete really a lot of non accepted/hold messages per day which are normally spam only. [snip] The more of these mundane tasks we can remove from the developers shoulders, the better. I'm sure everyone will agree on this. I hope you're not shy about telling us if there is anything we can do to help make communications and such run smoothly, and without interfering too much with the actual development. How do you feel about Launchpad.net? Much of the traffic on this list consists of questions or bug reports. By using LP, we could collect questions and answers, so that we can just copy and paste a link to the answer when questions are asked several times. The same goes for bug reports, of course, and it handles translations, blueprints and code as well. Yes, users will still have to register, but launchpad will take care of that. It seems to me that by opening up a little more, the number of bug reports and questions might increase, but it'll be easier to distribute the load as well. I also think it's important to have a highly visible bug tracker so that testers can help confirm which bugs are reproducible, and if they're not, possibly discern the circumstances required to do so. Thanks, Jo-Erlend Schinstad ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] about the mailing list...
On Di 29 Jun 2010 00:03:58 CEST Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: On 28 June 2010 21:37, Heinz-M. Graesing x2go-...@x2go.org wrote: [snip] This is done, because if everybody can write to the list we would receive a lot of spam. I have to delete really a lot of non accepted/hold messages per day which are normally spam only. [snip] The more of these mundane tasks we can remove from the developers shoulders, the better. I'm sure everyone will agree on this. I hope you're not shy about telling us if there is anything we can do to help make communications and such run smoothly, and without interfering too much with the actual development. How do you feel about Launchpad.net? Much of the traffic on this list consists of questions or bug reports. By using LP, we could collect questions and answers, so that we can just copy and paste a link to the answer when questions are asked several times. The same goes for bug reports, of course, and it handles translations, blueprints and code as well. Yes, users will still have to register, but launchpad will take care of that. It seems to me that by opening up a little more, the number of bug reports and questions might increase, but it'll be easier to distribute the load as well. I also think it's important to have a highly visible bug tracker so that testers can help confirm which bugs are reproducible, and if they're not, possibly discern the circumstances required to do so. Thanks, Jo-Erlend Schinstad +1 from me on this... Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 eMail-LeseSchreibStunde: wochentags 8h-10h mail: m.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] about the mailing list...
Am 28.06.2010 21:37, schrieb Heinz-M. Graesing: Hello all new to the list, funny to quote myself... ...I didn't want to complain about the list itself. There are some people that don't want to be member of the list, but contacting me on all the topics on the list. So communication by the list is exacly what we wan't and what is a very good proof of concept. Some day between some releases we'll move the list to our own server so that we have more control about the preferences. There were some very nice discussions about that topic on linuxtag, even with some really good software advice. Again thank you for your ideas and help. best regards, Heinz ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
