Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Daffy Duck]

Man, this is driving me crazy.  If I use your solution, everything
works fine through x2go, and I'm always prompted for keyring password. 
But when I go back to local machine, I have the same problem with
evoluton that I used to have with x2go UNTIL I reboot.  I can't get
access to keyring, even if I log out and back in.  The only thing that
fixes it is rebooting.

On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 16:17 +0100, Stefan Baur wrote:
> Am 30.10.19 um 16:09 schrieb Daffy Duck:
> > On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 21:55 +0100, Stefan Baur wrote:
> > > Am 28.10.19 um 21:49 schrieb Daffy Duck:
> > > > I am having issues with it with my local session, sometimes forcing me
> > > > to have to reboot local session(not simply log out), in order to get
> > > > local computer to be able to use evolution again.
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > 
> > > Open a shell inside the X2Go session, start evolution from there, check
> > > what error messages it throws.
> 
> > It won't show the error there, as it works fine in x2go.
> > 
> > It stopped working fine in the local session when I use this x2go
> > -secrets method regularly.
> > 
> > Sometimes I have to reboot to get it working locally.
> 
> Well, then open the shell in a local session and see what error message
> you get when you try to run evolution there.
> 
> -Stefan
> 
> PS: Please don't top-post.
> 
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Daffy Duck]

Gmail has no option not to top post, sorry.

That being said, there is no error when running it in a local session.
That's the problem.  However, when I open evolution, it says "failed to
connect" for various reasons, such as timeout was reached, failed to
authenticate: timeout was reached, etc.

The only way I can use evolution without a reboot is to do it through x2go,
where I have it do that gnome-keyring-daemon line.

It seems I can't easily use evolution at local machine and x2go without the
other having an issue.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:17 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:

> Am 30.10.19 um 16:09 schrieb Daffy Duck:
> > On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 21:55 +0100, Stefan Baur wrote:
> >> Am 28.10.19 um 21:49 schrieb Daffy Duck:
> >>> I am having issues with it with my local session, sometimes forcing me
> >>> to have to reboot local session(not simply log out), in order to get
> >>> local computer to be able to use evolution again.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Open a shell inside the X2Go session, start evolution from there, check
> >> what error messages it throws.
>
> > It won't show the error there, as it works fine in x2go.
> >
> > It stopped working fine in the local session when I use this x2go
> > -secrets method regularly.
> >
> > Sometimes I have to reboot to get it working locally.
>
> Well, then open the shell in a local session and see what error message
> you get when you try to run evolution there.
>
> -Stefan
>
> PS: Please don't top-post.
>
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Stefan Baur]

Am 30.10.19 um 16:09 schrieb Daffy Duck:
> On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 21:55 +0100, Stefan Baur wrote:
>> Am 28.10.19 um 21:49 schrieb Daffy Duck:
>>> I am having issues with it with my local session, sometimes forcing me
>>> to have to reboot local session(not simply log out), in order to get
>>> local computer to be able to use evolution again.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Open a shell inside the X2Go session, start evolution from there, check
>> what error messages it throws.

> It won't show the error there, as it works fine in x2go.
>
> It stopped working fine in the local session when I use this x2go
> -secrets method regularly.
>
> Sometimes I have to reboot to get it working locally.

Well, then open the shell in a local session and see what error message
you get when you try to run evolution there.

-Stefan

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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Daffy Duck]

It won't show the error there, as it works fine in x2go.  

It stopped working fine in the local session when I use this x2go
-secrets method regularly. 

Sometimes I have to reboot to get it working locally.

On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 21:55 +0100, Stefan Baur wrote:
> Am 28.10.19 um 21:49 schrieb Daffy Duck:
> > I am having issues with it with my local session, sometimes forcing me
> > to have to reboot local session(not simply log out), in order to get
> > local computer to be able to use evolution again.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> 
> Open a shell inside the X2Go session, start evolution from there, check
> what error messages it throws.
> 
> 
> -Stefan
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Stefan Baur]

Am 28.10.19 um 21:49 schrieb Daffy Duck:
> I am having issues with it with my local session, sometimes forcing me
> to have to reboot local session(not simply log out), in order to get
> local computer to be able to use evolution again.
> 
> Any ideas?

Open a shell inside the X2Go session, start evolution from there, check
what error messages it throws.


-Stefan

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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Daffy Duck]

I am having issues with it with my local session, sometimes forcing me
to have to reboot local session(not simply log out), in order to get
local computer to be able to use evolution again.

Any ideas?



On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 23:00 +0200, Stefan Baur wrote:
> Am 18.10.19 um 22:38 schrieb D Ducky:
> > SOLVED!
> > 
> > Thank you!
> > 
> > We'll see what happens when I access it locally after this, though, as I 
> > imagine 
> > it will upset my local session.
> 
> If it does upset your local session, try a script file that checks for
> the presence of X2Go-specific variables (unless you're running in
> published or possibly single application mode; they're absent there, AFAIK).
> 
> Something like:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> if [ -n "$X2GO_SESSION" ] ; then
> # this will be executed only if we're
> # inside an active X2Go session
> gnome-keyring-daemon --replace –components=secrets
> fi
> 
> -Stefan
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Stefan Baur]

Am 18.10.19 um 22:38 schrieb D Ducky:
> SOLVED!
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> We'll see what happens when I access it locally after this, though, as I 
> imagine 
> it will upset my local session.

If it does upset your local session, try a script file that checks for
the presence of X2Go-specific variables (unless you're running in
published or possibly single application mode; they're absent there, AFAIK).

Something like:

#!/bin/bash
if [ -n "$X2GO_SESSION" ] ; then
# this will be executed only if we're
# inside an active X2Go session
gnome-keyring-daemon --replace –components=secrets
fi

-Stefan

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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[D Ducky]

  
  
SOLVED!
Thank you!
We'll see what happens when I access it locally after this,
  though, as I imagine it will upset my local session.

On 10/18/19 11:16 AM, Alexanderstr
  Miete wrote:


  
  
Ducky,
Try the following:
In the terminal, type:
 
   
  
  gnome-keyring-daemon
--replace –components=secrets 

Then reopen Seahorse and please check.


If that works, then add in Startup
  Applications as a Command (if the folder is the same as mine)

 
  /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon
--replace –components=secrets
  
  
  Let us know if
that did the trick. For me it did, even though I must admit,
not being a Linux expert, I am not sure exactly what
happened/ where the difference lies.
  
  Fact is that I
already had the command "gnome-keyring-daemon
--start –components=secrets" in the startup applications,
But only the command above did the trick.
  Could somebody
explain why?
  Hope that heps
Ducky as well.
  



  
  
  
Am Mo., 14. Okt. 2019 um
  15:10 Uhr schrieb D Ducky :


  
I'm having the same problem with TigerVnc as with x2go.
Neither sees default keyring.

On 10/13/19 11:53 AM, Alexanderstr Miete wrote:


  
Yes, same goes for me with Ubuntu Mate, see here
  and following Threads: https://lists.x2go.org/pipermail/x2go-user/2019-October/005725.html


  
  
  
Am So., 13. Okt. 2019
  um 15:38 Uhr schrieb D Ducky :

In Fedora 30, I
  don't even seem to have this package, but still have
  the
  issue.
  
  
  On 10/12/19 3:44 PM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
  > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM Alexanderstr
  Miete
  > 
  wrote:
  >> Help would be much appreciated.  How can
  Seahorse get the same privileges during that X2Go
  session as for a local session/VNC?
  > Hmm, have you tried this?
  > https://askubuntu.com/questions/931780/passwords-missing-from-seahorse-passwords-and-keys
  >
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Alexanderstr Miete]

Ducky,
Try the following:
In the terminal, type:

gnome-keyring-daemon --replace –components=secrets
Then reopen Seahorse and please check.

If that works, then add in Startup Applications as a Command (if the folder
is the same as mine)

/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --replace –components=secrets


Let us know if that did the trick. For me it did, even though I must admit,
not being a Linux expert, I am not sure exactly what happened/ where the
difference lies.

Fact is that I already had the command "gnome-keyring-daemon --start
–components=secrets" in the startup applications, But only the command
above did the trick.

Could somebody explain why?

Hope that heps Ducky as well.


Am Mo., 14. Okt. 2019 um 15:10 Uhr schrieb D Ducky :

> I'm having the same problem with TigerVnc as with x2go.
>
> Neither sees default keyring.
> On 10/13/19 11:53 AM, Alexanderstr Miete wrote:
>
> Yes, same goes for me with Ubuntu Mate, see here and following Threads:
> https://lists.x2go.org/pipermail/x2go-user/2019-October/005725.html
>
>
> Am So., 13. Okt. 2019 um 15:38 Uhr schrieb D Ducky <
> suffsuccot...@gmail.com>:
>
>> In Fedora 30, I don't even seem to have this package, but still have the
>> issue.
>>
>>
>> On 10/12/19 3:44 PM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
>> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM Alexanderstr Miete
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Help would be much appreciated.  How can Seahorse get the same
>> privileges during that X2Go session as for a local session/VNC?
>> > Hmm, have you tried this?
>> >
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/931780/passwords-missing-from-seahorse-passwords-and-keys
>> >
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[D Ducky]

  
  
I'm having the same problem with TigerVnc as with x2go.
Neither sees default keyring.

On 10/13/19 11:53 AM, Alexanderstr
  Miete wrote:


  
  
Yes, same goes for me with Ubuntu Mate, see here and
  following Threads: https://lists.x2go.org/pipermail/x2go-user/2019-October/005725.html


  
  
  
Am So., 13. Okt. 2019 um
  15:38 Uhr schrieb D Ducky :

In
  Fedora 30, I don't even seem to have this package, but still
  have the
  issue.
  
  
  On 10/12/19 3:44 PM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
  > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM Alexanderstr Miete
  > 
  wrote:
  >> Help would be much appreciated.  How can Seahorse get
  the same privileges during that X2Go session as for a local
  session/VNC?
  > Hmm, have you tried this?
  > https://askubuntu.com/questions/931780/passwords-missing-from-seahorse-passwords-and-keys
  >
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Alexanderstr Miete]

Yes, same goes for me with Ubuntu Mate, see here and following Threads:
https://lists.x2go.org/pipermail/x2go-user/2019-October/005725.html


Am So., 13. Okt. 2019 um 15:38 Uhr schrieb D Ducky :

> In Fedora 30, I don't even seem to have this package, but still have the
> issue.
>
>
> On 10/12/19 3:44 PM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM Alexanderstr Miete
> >  wrote:
> >> Help would be much appreciated.  How can Seahorse get the same
> privileges during that X2Go session as for a local session/VNC?
> > Hmm, have you tried this?
> >
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/931780/passwords-missing-from-seahorse-passwords-and-keys
> >
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[D Ducky]

In Fedora 30, I don't even seem to have this package, but still have the
issue.


On 10/12/19 3:44 PM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM Alexanderstr Miete
>  wrote:
>> Help would be much appreciated.  How can Seahorse get the same privileges 
>> during that X2Go session as for a local session/VNC?
> Hmm, have you tried this?
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/931780/passwords-missing-from-seahorse-passwords-and-keys
>
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Михайло Падалка]

>
> Yes, I am aware of that. The point is: somehow polkit is able to
> distinguish between local and remote session.
>

Theoretically it can be with the use of PAM config - X2Go connects via SSH,
so has different PAM setup.
However did not check if that's the cause.

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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 2:10 PM Alexanderstr Miete
 wrote:
>
> Dear Ulrich,
> Running the command sudo apt autoremove --purge dbus-user-session, as you 
> suggested, does not solve the issue.
> Just to be clear: When connecting via X2Go with Session type : Local Desktop 
> the issue is not present. Equally via VNC. Only when connecting via X2Go via

Yes, I am aware of that. The point is: somehow polkit is able to
distinguish between local and remote session. The link I posted
suggested to remove dbus-user-session because that's is the component
setting the "local" flag - at least that's what I deducted from that
posting. It might be that it does not solve the issue, but it could be
interesting to find out if it changes the general behaviour. E.g. it
could be that after removing the package it also stops working for
local sessions. Which would point us to examining what the package
changes and if that change can be further extended to also work for
x2go sessions.

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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Alexanderstr Miete]

Dear Ulrich,
Running the command sudo apt autoremove --purge dbus-user-session, as you
suggested, does not solve the issue.
Just to be clear: When connecting via X2Go with Session type : Local
Desktop the issue is not present. Equally via VNC. Only when connecting via
X2Go via



*"Custom Desktop" this will start a NEW session and results in
different permission issues, including Seahorse not showing
passwords.*


*Help would be much appreciated.*


Am Sa., 12. Okt. 2019 um 21:44 Uhr schrieb Ulrich Sibiller :

> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM Alexanderstr Miete
>  wrote:
> > Help would be much appreciated.  How can Seahorse get the same
> privileges during that X2Go session as for a local session/VNC?
>
> Hmm, have you tried this?
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/931780/passwords-missing-from-seahorse-passwords-and-keys
>
> Uli
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Re: [X2Go-User] Seahorse via X2Go Custom Desktop: Insufficient Priviliges

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM Alexanderstr Miete
 wrote:
> Help would be much appreciated.  How can Seahorse get the same privileges 
> during that X2Go session as for a local session/VNC?

Hmm, have you tried this?
https://askubuntu.com/questions/931780/passwords-missing-from-seahorse-passwords-and-keys

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