Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 9:47 PM Orion Poplawski  wrote:

> > Yes, that's crap by KDE... You can disable that by fiddling with some
> > config file but it tends to come back with updates.. However, as a
> > test please use some other desktop and check if clipboard is working
> > better there.
>
> What are the problems created by the clipboard manager?  I've generally
> used Klipper (on EL7 at least) without much issue.

NX clipboard handling was very buggy before I revised it last year.
Having a clipboard manager (that leads to more clipboard requests and
events by its nature) triggered those bugs more often than not.
Meanwhile I tend to say that's not a problem today. But that one
problem with chrome Neal was mentioned must be examined.

Uli
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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Neal Becker]

I updated nx-libs on client (F32) and server (F31).  I'm running copyq on
both.  It seems bi-directional copy/paste are
working fine (at least ATM, in the past it's been  flaky so we'll see).

Thanks!

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 3:47 PM Orion Poplawski  wrote:

> On 6/18/20 10:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:02 PM Ulrich Sibiller  > > wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:05 PM Neal Becker  > > wrote:
> >  >> Please try to upgrade nx to 3.5.99.24
> >  >
> >  > Don't know how I'd do that.  Fedora 32 has 3.5.99.22, and even
> > rawhide has the same.
> >  > http://packages.x2go.org/fedora/30/main/x86_64/rpms/nx-libs/ has
> > what seems the same version.
> >
> > Check this site:
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=nx-libs
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the tip, but there's no 3.5.99.24 there.  Should I file a bug
> > report asking Orion to update the Fedora package?
>
> Uli pinged me the other day so updates have been created.
>
> >
> >  >> > Actually it's worse (and weirder) than I thought.  If x2go
> > client is running, cut/paste doesn't work anywhere on my client
> > side, not only within x2go client.  I just tried
> >  >> > cut/paste between tabs in chrome on my client (not within
> > x2go) and nothing happens.  I then shutdown the x2go session on the
> > client, and tried the experiment again,
> >  >> > and now I can cut/paste between tabs on chrome.
> >  >>
> >  >> I have seen slow (but working!) clipboard with chrome, too (and
> >  >> without any wayland being involved). So this might be a chrome
> > issue.
> >  >> Please also check if you have some kind of clipboard manager
> > running.
> >  >>
> >  > kde has some clipboard manager, doesn't seem to run as a separate
> > process though (don't see it in ps).
> >
> > Yes, that's crap by KDE... You can disable that by fiddling with some
> > config file but it tends to come back with updates.. However, as a
> > test please use some other desktop and check if clipboard is working
> > better there.
> >
> > Uli
>
> What are the problems created by the clipboard manager?  I've generally
> used Klipper (on EL7 at least) without much issue.
>
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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Orion Poplawski]

On 6/18/20 10:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote:



On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:02 PM Ulrich Sibiller > wrote:


On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:05 PM Neal Becker mailto:ndbeck...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >> Please try to upgrade nx to 3.5.99.24
 >
 > Don't know how I'd do that.  Fedora 32 has 3.5.99.22, and even
rawhide has the same.
 > http://packages.x2go.org/fedora/30/main/x86_64/rpms/nx-libs/ has
what seems the same version.

Check this site:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=nx-libs


Thanks for the tip, but there's no 3.5.99.24 there.  Should I file a bug 
report asking Orion to update the Fedora package?


Uli pinged me the other day so updates have been created.



 >> > Actually it's worse (and weirder) than I thought.  If x2go
client is running, cut/paste doesn't work anywhere on my client
side, not only within x2go client.  I just tried
 >> > cut/paste between tabs in chrome on my client (not within
x2go) and nothing happens.  I then shutdown the x2go session on the
client, and tried the experiment again,
 >> > and now I can cut/paste between tabs on chrome.
 >>
 >> I have seen slow (but working!) clipboard with chrome, too (and
 >> without any wayland being involved). So this might be a chrome
issue.
 >> Please also check if you have some kind of clipboard manager
running.
 >>
 > kde has some clipboard manager, doesn't seem to run as a separate
process though (don't see it in ps).

Yes, that's crap by KDE... You can disable that by fiddling with some
config file but it tends to come back with updates.. However, as a
test please use some other desktop and check if clipboard is working
better there.

Uli


What are the problems created by the clipboard manager?  I've generally 
used Klipper (on EL7 at least) without much issue.


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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Neal Becker]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:02 PM Ulrich Sibiller  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:05 PM Neal Becker  wrote:
> >> Please try to upgrade nx to 3.5.99.24
> >
> > Don't know how I'd do that.  Fedora 32 has 3.5.99.22, and even rawhide
> has the same.
> >  http://packages.x2go.org/fedora/30/main/x86_64/rpms/nx-libs/ has what
> seems the same version.
>
> Check this site: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=nx-libs


Thanks for the tip, but there's no 3.5.99.24 there.  Should I file a bug
report asking Orion to update the Fedora package?
Is it just nx-libs that needs an update?


>
>
> >> > Actually it's worse (and weirder) than I thought.  If x2go client is
> running, cut/paste doesn't work anywhere on my client side, not only within
> x2go client.  I just tried
> >> > cut/paste between tabs in chrome on my client (not within x2go) and
> nothing happens.  I then shutdown the x2go session on the client, and tried
> the experiment again,
> >> > and now I can cut/paste between tabs on chrome.
> >>
> >> I have seen slow (but working!) clipboard with chrome, too (and
> >> without any wayland being involved). So this might be a chrome issue.
> >> Please also check if you have some kind of clipboard manager running.
> >>
> > kde has some clipboard manager, doesn't seem to run as a separate
> process though (don't see it in ps).
>
> Yes, that's crap by KDE... You can disable that by fiddling with some
> config file but it tends to come back with updates.. However, as a
> test please use some other desktop and check if clipboard is working
> better there.
>
> Uli
>


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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:05 PM Neal Becker  wrote:
>> Please try to upgrade nx to 3.5.99.24
>
> Don't know how I'd do that.  Fedora 32 has 3.5.99.22, and even rawhide has 
> the same.
>  http://packages.x2go.org/fedora/30/main/x86_64/rpms/nx-libs/ has what seems 
> the same version.

Check this site: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=nx-libs

>> > Actually it's worse (and weirder) than I thought.  If x2go client is 
>> > running, cut/paste doesn't work anywhere on my client side, not only 
>> > within x2go client.  I just tried
>> > cut/paste between tabs in chrome on my client (not within x2go) and 
>> > nothing happens.  I then shutdown the x2go session on the client, and 
>> > tried the experiment again,
>> > and now I can cut/paste between tabs on chrome.
>>
>> I have seen slow (but working!) clipboard with chrome, too (and
>> without any wayland being involved). So this might be a chrome issue.
>> Please also check if you have some kind of clipboard manager running.
>>
> kde has some clipboard manager, doesn't seem to run as a separate process 
> though (don't see it in ps).

Yes, that's crap by KDE... You can disable that by fiddling with some
config file but it tends to come back with updates.. However, as a
test please use some other desktop and check if clipboard is working
better there.

Uli
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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Neal Becker]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:57 AM Ulrich Sibiller  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:49 PM Neal Becker  wrote:
>
> Please try to upgrade nx to 3.5.99.24
>

Don't know how I'd do that.  Fedora 32 has 3.5.99.22, and even rawhide has
the same.
 http://packages.x2go.org/fedora/30/main/x86_64/rpms/nx-libs/ has what
seems the same version.


> > Actually it's worse (and weirder) than I thought.  If x2go client is
> running, cut/paste doesn't work anywhere on my client side, not only within
> x2go client.  I just tried
> > cut/paste between tabs in chrome on my client (not within x2go) and
> nothing happens.  I then shutdown the x2go session on the client, and tried
> the experiment again,
> > and now I can cut/paste between tabs on chrome.
>
> I have seen slow (but working!) clipboard with chrome, too (and
> without any wayland being involved). So this might be a chrome issue.
> Please also check if you have some kind of clipboard manager running.
>
> Uli
>

kde has some clipboard manager, doesn't seem to run as a separate process
though (don't see it in ps).
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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:49 PM Neal Becker  wrote:

Please try to upgrade nx to 3.5.99.24

> Actually it's worse (and weirder) than I thought.  If x2go client is running, 
> cut/paste doesn't work anywhere on my client side, not only within x2go 
> client.  I just tried
> cut/paste between tabs in chrome on my client (not within x2go) and nothing 
> happens.  I then shutdown the x2go session on the client, and tried the 
> experiment again,
> and now I can cut/paste between tabs on chrome.

I have seen slow (but working!) clipboard with chrome, too (and
without any wayland being involved). So this might be a chrome issue.
Please also check if you have some kind of clipboard manager running.

Uli
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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Neal Becker]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:34 AM Neal Becker  wrote:

> server has nxagent-3.5.99.22-1.fc31.x86_64
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:19 AM Ulrich Sibiller  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:59 PM Neal Becker  wrote:
>> >
>> > Both client and server are Fedora (31 and 32).
>> >
>> > I'm running a kde/wayland client, with capslock mapped to ctrl.
>>
>> Well, for me wayland is absolutely untested. So it might work. Or not.
>>
>> > When I connect to the server (running mate) everything works fine,
>> except I don't have capslock mapped to ctrl.
>> > Every time I connect (not every time the session starts) I have to run
>> > setxkbmap -option caps:ctrl_modifier
>> >
>> > Oh actually one thing doesn't work.  Cut/paste is totally nonfunctional.
>>
>> Both sound like you are using an old version of nxagent. What version
>> do you have?
>>
>> Uli
>>
>
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Actually it's worse (and weirder) than I thought.  If x2go client is
running, cut/paste doesn't work anywhere on my client side, not only within
x2go client.  I just tried
cut/paste between tabs in chrome on my client (not within x2go) and nothing
happens.  I then shutdown the x2go session on the client, and tried the
experiment again,
and now I can cut/paste between tabs on chrome.
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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Neal Becker]

server has nxagent-3.5.99.22-1.fc31.x86_64

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:19 AM Ulrich Sibiller  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:59 PM Neal Becker  wrote:
> >
> > Both client and server are Fedora (31 and 32).
> >
> > I'm running a kde/wayland client, with capslock mapped to ctrl.
>
> Well, for me wayland is absolutely untested. So it might work. Or not.
>
> > When I connect to the server (running mate) everything works fine,
> except I don't have capslock mapped to ctrl.
> > Every time I connect (not every time the session starts) I have to run
> > setxkbmap -option caps:ctrl_modifier
> >
> > Oh actually one thing doesn't work.  Cut/paste is totally nonfunctional.
>
> Both sound like you are using an old version of nxagent. What version
> do you have?
>
> Uli
>


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Re: [X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:59 PM Neal Becker  wrote:
>
> Both client and server are Fedora (31 and 32).
>
> I'm running a kde/wayland client, with capslock mapped to ctrl.

Well, for me wayland is absolutely untested. So it might work. Or not.

> When I connect to the server (running mate) everything works fine, except I 
> don't have capslock mapped to ctrl.
> Every time I connect (not every time the session starts) I have to run
> setxkbmap -option caps:ctrl_modifier
>
> Oh actually one thing doesn't work.  Cut/paste is totally nonfunctional.

Both sound like you are using an old version of nxagent. What version
do you have?

Uli
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[X2Go-User] keyboard config on wayland

[Neal Becker]

Both client and server are Fedora (31 and 32).

I'm running a kde/wayland client, with capslock mapped to ctrl.
When I connect to the server (running mate) everything works fine, except I
don't have capslock mapped to ctrl.
Every time I connect (not every time the session starts) I have to run
setxkbmap -option caps:ctrl_modifier

Oh actually one thing doesn't work.  Cut/paste is totally nonfunctional.

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