Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Russ Pavlicek
Lars,

>@Russell: you may want to update the XM to XL pages or create a new
>one and add your video

I've updated the existing Wiki pages. I've also created an unpublished
entry in the Video section of the XenProject.org website.  Should we
publish that now, or wait until release?

Russ

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 03:30:23PM +, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> >>> On 19.12.14 at 15:52,  wrote:
>> > ** The key changes normally are changes to scalability/memory/etc. limits -
>> > maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM) can look let me know of changes
>>
>> Iirc scalability changes on the x86 side were mostly (if not exclusively)
>> in terms of performance improvements (in some cases getting bigger
>> guests out of not booting at all state).
>>
>
> Hmm, wasn't there improvements to allow more VMs per host aswell.. ? which 
> would be worth mentioning..
> xenstored related stuff iirc.
>
> -- Pasi
>
>> Jan
>>
>
>

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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 03:30:23PM +, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 19.12.14 at 15:52,  wrote:
> > ** The key changes normally are changes to scalability/memory/etc. limits - 
> > maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM) can look let me know of changes
> 
> Iirc scalability changes on the x86 side were mostly (if not exclusively)
> in terms of performance improvements (in some cases getting bigger
> guests out of not booting at all state).
> 

Hmm, wasn't there improvements to allow more VMs per host aswell.. ? which 
would be worth mentioning..
xenstored related stuff iirc.

-- Pasi

> Jan
> 



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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Lars Kurth

On 19 Dec 2014, at 17:10, Meng Xu  wrote:
> 
> ​I have finished the wiki page. Here is the link: 
> http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/User:Pennpanda ​
> I followed the Credit scheduler's wiki page to complete the RTDS'.
> ​(I'm not sure how to add a title for that page as Credit scheduler does. :-( 
> )​
> 
> ​Please let me know if you have any question. ​
> 
Thank you Meng: I will move the content to a page called RTDS-Based-Scheduler 
of there are no objections

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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Meng Xu
Hi Lars and Dario,

2014-12-19 11:15 GMT-05:00 Dario Faggioli :

> On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 10:55 -0500, Meng Xu wrote:
>
> > 2014-12-19 9:52 GMT-05:00 Lars Kurth :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Please reply to the thread and I will add that page.
> > ** The key changes normally are changes to
> > scalability/memory/etc. limits - maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM)
> > can look let me know of changes
> > ** Also new platforms, changes to experimental features, etc.
> > ** Probably the new scheduler should be added - is there a
> > wiki page?
> >
> >
> > ​The new scheduler (rtds) does not have a wiki page right now, but it
> > has an outside page to explain how it is designed and how it works
> > at https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/getting-started.
> > ​I can add a wiki page very quickly today based on the pages on ​
> > https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/ .
> >
> That would be great! :-)
>
> > Is that ok?
> >
> I think it is ok. Just make sure, when you do that, that you properly
> adapt the information and make them match what actually have been
> upstreamed (so command option names, limits of the implementation, etc.)
>
> Also, you should put in the wiki page a WARN about the fact that the
> scheduler has been included as an experimental and in-development
> feature.
>
> Share here a link when you're done, so we can go having a look. :-)
>


​I have finished the wiki page. Here is the link:
http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/User:Pennpanda ​
I followed the Credit scheduler's wiki page to complete the RTDS'.
​(I'm not sure how to add a title for that page as Credit scheduler does.
:-( )​

​Please let me know if you have any question. ​


​Thank you very much! :-)

Best,

Meng



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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Dario Faggioli
On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 10:55 -0500, Meng Xu wrote:

> 2014-12-19 9:52 GMT-05:00 Lars Kurth :
> Hi all,
>  
> Please reply to the thread and I will add that page.
> ** The key changes normally are changes to
> scalability/memory/etc. limits - maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM)
> can look let me know of changes
> ** Also new platforms, changes to experimental features, etc.
> ** Probably the new scheduler should be added - is there a
> wiki page?
> 
> 
> ​The new scheduler (rtds) does not have a wiki page right now, but it
> has an outside page to explain how it is designed and how it works
> at https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/getting-started. 
> ​I can add a wiki page very quickly today based on the pages on ​
> https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/ .
>
That would be great! :-)

> Is that ok?
> 
I think it is ok. Just make sure, when you do that, that you properly
adapt the information and make them match what actually have been
upstreamed (so command option names, limits of the implementation, etc.)

Also, you should put in the wiki page a WARN about the fact that the
scheduler has been included as an experimental and in-development
feature.

Share here a link when you're done, so we can go having a look. :-)

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

-- 
<> (Raistlin Majere)
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Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)



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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Lars Kurth

On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:55, Meng Xu  wrote:

> Hi Lars,
> 
> 2014-12-19 9:52 GMT-05:00 Lars Kurth :
> Hi all,
>  
> Please reply to the thread and I will add that page.
> ** The key changes normally are changes to scalability/memory/etc. limits - 
> maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM) can look let me know of changes
> ** Also new platforms, changes to experimental features, etc.
> ** Probably the new scheduler should be added - is there a wiki page?
> 
> ​The new scheduler (rtds) does not have a wiki page right now, but it has an 
> outside page to explain how it is designed and how it works at 
> https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/getting-started. 
> ​I can add a wiki page very quickly today based on the pages on 
> ​https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/ .
> 
> Is that ok?

That would be perfect.
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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Meng Xu
Hi Lars,

2014-12-19 9:52 GMT-05:00 Lars Kurth :

> Hi all,
>
>
Please reply to the thread and I will add that page.
> ** The key changes normally are changes to scalability/memory/etc. limits
> - maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM) can look let me know of changes
> ** Also new platforms, changes to experimental features, etc.
> ** Probably the new scheduler should be added - is there a wiki page?
>

​The new scheduler (rtds) does not have a wiki page right now, but it has
an outside page to explain how it is designed and how it works at
https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/getting-started.
​I can add a wiki page very quickly today based on the pages on ​
https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/ .

Is that ok?

Thanks,

Meng


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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 19.12.14 at 15:52,  wrote:
> ** The key changes normally are changes to scalability/memory/etc. limits - 
> maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM) can look let me know of changes

Iirc scalability changes on the x86 side were mostly (if not exclusively)
in terms of performance improvements (in some cases getting bigger
guests out of not booting at all state).

Jan


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Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4.5 Development Update (RC4) - Documentation Updates

2014-12-19 Thread Lars Kurth
Hi all,

in preparation for the release we need to update some wiki pages, as well as 
in-tree docs

First of all, any new features for which any of you have written new wiki pages 
should be marked with [[Category:Xen 4.5]]. Either do this, or reply with URLs 
to pages and I will do so 

Otherwise, I created boilerplate pages for various pages and tracked the status 
on http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:Xen_4.5

@Russell: you may want to update the XM to XL pages or create a new one and add 
your video

== The following pages need to be reviewed and updated ==
* {{NotDone}} [[Linux PVH]]: 
** Add PVH Dom0 information 
** Review/correct the '''Things that are broken''' section
** Review/correct the '''Items that have not been tested extensively or at 
all'''

* {{NotDone}} [[Xen ARM with Virtualization Extensions]] 
** supported platforms need to be updated and 
** all platforms that are supported in 4.5 tagged appropriately with 
[[Category:Xen 4.5]]

== Lars will fix ==
* {{NotDone}} [[Xen Project 4.5 Acknowledgements]] 
** Lars will do this.  

* {{NotDone}} [[Xen Project 4.5 Feature List]] 
** Lars will copy from the blog announcement when ready (Sarah is currently 
making some final changes)

== For Konrad and others ==
* {{NotDone}} [[Xen Project Release Features]] - main 4.5 features need to be 
added. 

Please reply to the thread and I will add that page.
** The key changes normally are changes to scalability/memory/etc. limits - 
maybe Jan(x86) and Ian(ARM) can look let me know of changes
** Also new platforms, changes to experimental features, etc. 
** Probably the new scheduler should be added - is there a wiki page?
** Any other major new features that are worth highlighting? I can go through 
the press release and the release note

* {{NotDone}} [[Xen Project 4.5 Release Notes]] - needs to be created 
** http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_4.4_Release_Notes were pretty 
lightweight 
** I think we should keep it that way. We should probably mainly focus on known 
issues
@Konrad: what's your view?

== Missing pages ==
* {{NotDone}} [[Xen Project 4.5 Man Pages]] 
** need to clone [[Xen Project 4.4 Man Pages]] and point to the correct branch 
when the 4.5 branch has been created
** if there are new documented features in in-tree docs then add them
** if there are irrelevant features such as XM, remove links to docs (probably 
the docs should be removed from the git tree also)

Cheers
Lars

On 16 Dec 2014, at 16:13, konrad.w...@oracle.com wrote:

> Xen 4.5-rc4 was out on Monday (Dec 15th). This is the last RC and then
> we have the General Release on Jan 7th!
> 
> Details for the test-day are at
> 
> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_4.5_RC4_test_instructions
> 
> In terms of bugs, we have:
> 
> #11 qxl hypervisor support
> #13 Re: [Xen-devel] man page example: xm block-attach
> #18 xl improve support for migration over non-sshlike tunnels
> #19 xl migrate transport improvements
> #22 xl does not support specifying virtual function for passthrough device
> #23 Remove arbitrary LIBXL_MAXMEM_CONSTANT from libxl, see what breaks
> #24 xl missing support for encrypted VNC
> #27 Re: [Xen-devel] xend vs xl with pci=['' are not 
> owned by pciback or pcistub will still launch.
> #28 support PCI hole resize in qemu-xen
> 
> [ 'mmio_hole' fix it, but the ultimate way is to fix it in QEMU]
> 
> #30 libxl should implement non-suspend-cancel based resume path
> #36 credit2 only uses one runqueue instead of one runq per socket
> #38 Implement VT-d large pages so we can avoid sharing between EPT
> #40 linux pvops: fpu corruption due to incorrect assumptions
> #42 "linux, S3 resume of PVHVM fails - missing call to xen_arch_post_suspend?"
> #43 "30s delay loading xenfb driver on some systems"
> #44 Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem
> #45 arm: domain 0 disables clocks which are in fact being used
> #46 qemu-upstream: limitation on 4 emulated NICs prevents guest from starting 
> unless PV override is used.
> 
> = Timeline =
> 
> We wer planning on a 9-month release cycle - but it is more like an
> 10 month.  Based on that, below are the estimated dates:
> 
> 
> * Feature Freeze: 24th September 2014
> * First RC: 24th October [Friday!]
> * RC2: Nov 11th
> * RC2 Test-day: Nov 13th
> * RC3: Dec 3rd.
> * RC3 Test-day: Dec 4th
> * RC4: Dec 15th
> 
> < WE ARE HERE ===>
> 
> * RC4 Test-day: Dec 17th
> 
> Release Date: Jan 7th.
> 
> The RCs and release will of course depend on stability and bugs, and
> will therefore be fairly unpredictable.
> 
> Bug-fixes, if Acked-by by maintainer, can go anytime before the First
> RC. Later on we will need to figure out the risk of regression/reward
> to eliminate the possiblity of a bug introducing another bug.
> 
> = Prognosis =
> 
> The states are: none -> fair -> ok -> good -> done
> 
> none - nothing yet
> fair - still working on it, patches are prototypes or RFC
> ok   - patches posted, acting on review
> good - some last minute pieces
> done -