Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-22 Thread Gary Greene 
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On Saturday 22 February 2003 17:56, Per Bjornsson wrote:
> On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > I'll try to figure out how to make gdm restart instead of just
> > > resetting the X server.
> >
> > AlwaysRestartServer=true
> >
> > in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, which I just noticed seems to be the default in
> > recent versions though, but I can't reproduce the problem setting it to
> > false either.
>
> For the record, in RedHat 8.0 the default was apparently 'false' -
> changing this to 'true' as you suggested solved the problem for me. Thanks
> a lot for the suggestion!
>
> While I'm happy now, clearly the basic problem is still there in the code.
> If there is anything sensible I can do to help debug the root cause of
> this, please let me know and I'll do what I can. I won't have much time
> for a couple of weeks unfortunately though.
>
> Best regards,
> Per Bjornsson

Now, can some one please tell me what I need to look at under kdm to fix this? 
:(

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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-22 Thread Per Bjornsson 
On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> > I'll try to figure out how to make gdm restart instead of just resetting the
> > X server.
>
> AlwaysRestartServer=true
>
> in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, which I just noticed seems to be the default in
> recent versions though, but I can't reproduce the problem setting it to
> false either.

For the record, in RedHat 8.0 the default was apparently 'false' -
changing this to 'true' as you suggested solved the problem for me. Thanks
a lot for the suggestion!

While I'm happy now, clearly the basic problem is still there in the code.
If there is anything sensible I can do to help debug the root cause of
this, please let me know and I'll do what I can. I won't have much time
for a couple of weeks unfortunately though.

Best regards,
Per Bjornsson


Per Bjornsson
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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-21 Thread jsmith 
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> The solution was to configure it to kill and create a new X session on each
> logout.
> 
> for XDM:
> xdm-config.kcco:DisplayManager*terminateServer: true
  
  ignore this part

argh!  I cut and pasted a grep result too quickly.  You want to place in your
/etc/X11/xdm-config file

DisplayManager*terminateServer: true
 
> for GDM:

in /etc/x11/gdm/gdm.conf (or wherever your gnome installation installed it)
AlwaysRestartServer=true

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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-21 Thread jsmith 
Quoting Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> It (my system) hangs whenever I try to logout with the dm. This is the reason
> 
> [...]
>
> That aspect of the problem disappeared this morning when I updated to the
> most 
> recent CVS snapshot, however logout is still causing difficulties.

Check to see if your DM is restarting the x server on each logout, or continuing
to use the same X session.  The latter has become the default, which caused
exactly what you are describing (screen, i/o, sometimes complete system hang on
logout) with the Number 9 Revolution cards I was using, as well as some Fujitsu
tablets, none of which were using DRI/DRM.

The solution was to configure it to kill and create a new X session on each logout.

for XDM:
xdm-config.kcco:DisplayManager*terminateServer: true

for GDM:
AlwaysRestartServer=true

I don't use KDM, but I'm sure something similiar exists for it as well.

This fixed the problems I was having with the Number 9 cards, and with some
Fujitsu tablets, running X 4.0 - 4.2.1 (I have not yet had occasion to try
4.2.99.4 or later on any of those devices), so it may be worth a try.

Good luck,

Jean.



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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-21 Thread Michel Dänzer 
On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 05:37, Gary Greene wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 8:11 pm, Per Bjornsson wrote:
> > On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 01:20, Gary Greene wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It (my system) hangs whenever I try to logout with the dm.
> > >
> > > So have you tried setting your dm up to restart the server on logout?
> > > They only reset it by default.
> > >
> > > > This is the reason that I am forced to either telinit 3 or "zap" X.
> > > > This same or similar issue has been reported on the DRI site by me and
> > > > others using the ATI Radeon (r100) chipset devices.
> > >
> > > The thing is, if zapping the server works, then it can't be something
> > > really bad like a lockup. Maybe the server is running fine, there's
> > > 'just' no display?
> >
> > I think that I might be seeing the same problem on a Sapphire Radeon 9000
> > (detected as a RV250 If) - at least I am seeing similar behavior. The only
> > thing that triggers the lock for me is logging out while running a display
> > manager though, at least I haven't seen any other lockups lately. I
> > haven't had time to nail down if I can avoid it (e.g. by disabling DRI) -
> > that's why I haven't written about it earlier - but the computer _really_
> > seems dead. Doesn't even answer a ping, and a hard reset is the only cure.

[...]

> - From what I found, the system is effectively dead as well. The freeze seems to 
> lock the I/O subsystem of the kernel. Thus, killing the network, mouse, and 
> keyboard. 

This isn't consistent with your reportedly being able to zap the server
and start another one afterwards though.

> I think that it is creating a race condition where the system is 
> both shutting down and starting up the card at the same time, effectively 
> grabbing at the card at the same time.

Something along those lines possibly. Unfortunately, such problems are
very hard to debug, especially when you can't reproduce them...

> Just a thought, would running my vc's in framebuffer mode cause a conflict 
> here?

Shouldn't, but it's something else to try I guess. If it's radeonfb,
playing with Option "UseFBDev" is another option.


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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-21 Thread Michel Dänzer 
On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 03:12, Per Bjornsson wrote: 
> On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> 
> > > I've tried with 4.2.99.3 and 4.2.99.901 (actually CVS from couple of days
> > > after that release), RedHat 8, gcc 3.2, and I have tried both RedHat
> > > 2.4.18 kernels and Marcelo's 2.4.21-pre4.
> >
> > Are you using the DRM that comes with the kernel or built from CVS?
> 
> Built from XFree86 CVS. The kernel ones don't work with 4.3, do they?
> (Also, they really shouldn't work with an RV250, shoud they? My card isn't
> supported under 4.2.) 

Of course, I just keep forgetting the old stuff doesn't work with R200.
:/


> > Also, AGP settings could have an impact, as well as Mike's suggestion
> > about other hardware.
> 
> Going down to AGP 2X doesn't help anyways, I tried that after seeing some
> suggestions about that in the mailing list archives (if not here, possibly
> on DRI-devel). If 1X is worth trying I'll check that too .

I do think it's worth a try.


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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-20 Thread Gary Greene 
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On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 8:11 pm, Per Bjornsson wrote:
> On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 01:20, Gary Greene wrote:
> > > On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 4:40 pm, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > > On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 06:23, Gary Greene wrote:
> > > > > I've got a little problem with XFree's beta release 4.2.99. When I
> > > > > logout, or whenever the card blanks the screen (in X mode) my Linux
> > > > > system hangs and refuses to come out of the sinal off status. This
> > > > > happens only when DRI is enabled. with DRI off the card response
> > > > > normally. However, there goes my 3D Hardware support at that time:(
> > > > >
> > > > > At this time I am forced to "zap" X to log in as another user, or
> > > > > since I've got X set up as a SysV-styled service, I have to run
> > > > > /etc/init.d/dm stop then restart it.
> > > >
> > > > Does that work even after logging out? Does setting up the display
> > > > manager to always restart the X server work around the problem in
> > > > that situation?
> > >
> > > It (my system) hangs whenever I try to logout with the dm.
> >
> > So have you tried setting your dm up to restart the server on logout?
> > They only reset it by default.
> >
> > > This is the reason that I am forced to either telinit 3 or "zap" X.
> > > This same or similar issue has been reported on the DRI site by me and
> > > others using the ATI Radeon (r100) chipset devices.
> >
> > The thing is, if zapping the server works, then it can't be something
> > really bad like a lockup. Maybe the server is running fine, there's
> > 'just' no display?
>
> I think that I might be seeing the same problem on a Sapphire Radeon 9000
> (detected as a RV250 If) - at least I am seeing similar behavior. The only
> thing that triggers the lock for me is logging out while running a display
> manager though, at least I haven't seen any other lockups lately. I
> haven't had time to nail down if I can avoid it (e.g. by disabling DRI) -
> that's why I haven't written about it earlier - but the computer _really_
> seems dead. Doesn't even answer a ping, and a hard reset is the only cure.
> Nothing shows up in the logs. I'm starting the computer in text mode and
> starting X with startx for now, that works fine but having a DM running
> would be nice. I'll try to figure out how to make gdm restart instead of
> just resetting the X server. (That computer is at home and turned off,
> won't be there for a few hours so I can't test it for a while yet.)
>
> I've tried with 4.2.99.3 and 4.2.99.901 (actually CVS from couple of days
> after that release), RedHat 8, gcc 3.2, and I have tried both RedHat
> 2.4.18 kernels and Marcelo's 2.4.21-pre4.
>
> I realize that this isn't really enough information to troubleshoot
> sensibly, but I just wanted to let you know for now that this problem does
> exist for others too and for later Radeons than the R100 as well.
>
> Apart from this problem I think that XFree86 4.3 looks pretty cool!
>
> Best regards,
> Per Bjornsson

- From what I found, the system is effectively dead as well. The freeze seems to 
lock the I/O subsystem of the kernel. Thus, killing the network, mouse, and 
keyboard. I think that it is creating a race condition where the system is 
both shutting down and starting up the card at the same time, effectively 
grabbing at the card at the same time.

Just a thought, would running my vc's in framebuffer mode cause a conflict 
here?

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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-20 Thread Per Bjornsson 
On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> > I think that I might be seeing the same problem on a Sapphire Radeon 9000
> > (detected as a RV250 If) - at least I am seeing similar behavior. The only
> > thing that triggers the lock for me is logging out while running a display
> > manager though, at least I haven't seen any other lockups lately. I
> > haven't had time to nail down if I can avoid it (e.g. by disabling DRI) -
> > that's why I haven't written about it earlier - but the computer _really_
> > seems dead. Doesn't even answer a ping, and a hard reset is the only cure.
>
> That would be a very thorough lockup.

Yes, quite thorough. I certainly don't enjoy putting my computer into that
state...

> > I'll try to figure out how to make gdm restart instead of just resetting the
> > X server.
>
> AlwaysRestartServer=true
>
> in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, which I just noticed seems to be the default in
> recent versions though, but I can't reproduce the problem setting it to
> false either.

Thanks. I'll check what it's set to when I get to that machine. (It should
be set to whatever the default setting is in RedHat 8.)

> > I've tried with 4.2.99.3 and 4.2.99.901 (actually CVS from couple of days
> > after that release), RedHat 8, gcc 3.2, and I have tried both RedHat
> > 2.4.18 kernels and Marcelo's 2.4.21-pre4.
>
> Are you using the DRM that comes with the kernel or built from CVS?

Built from XFree86 CVS. The kernel ones don't work with 4.3, do they?
(Also, they really shouldn't work with an RV250, shoud they? My card isn't
supported under 4.2.) With the CVS modules DRM works, glxinfo reports
direct rendering working, 1400+ frames in glxgears, Tuxracer is playable,
3D screensavers look nice, etc.

> Also, AGP settings could have an impact, as well as Mike's suggestion
> about other hardware.

Going down to AGP 2X doesn't help anyways, I tried that after seeing some
suggestions about that in the mailing list archives (if not here, possibly
on DRI-devel). If 1X is worth trying I'll check that too . I'll try to
look into other hardware too.

Thanks for your suggestions, I'll try to troubleshoot this when I have the
time.

Best regards,
Per Bjornsson

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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-20 Thread Michel Dänzer 
On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 02:11, Per Bjornsson wrote:
> On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> > On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 01:20, Gary Greene wrote:
> >
> > > This is the reason that I am forced to either telinit 3 or "zap" X. This
> > > same or similar issue has been reported on the DRI site by me and others
> > > using the ATI Radeon (r100) chipset devices.
> >
> > The thing is, if zapping the server works, then it can't be something
> > really bad like a lockup. Maybe the server is running fine, there's
> > 'just' no display?
> 
> I think that I might be seeing the same problem on a Sapphire Radeon 9000
> (detected as a RV250 If) - at least I am seeing similar behavior. The only
> thing that triggers the lock for me is logging out while running a display
> manager though, at least I haven't seen any other lockups lately. I
> haven't had time to nail down if I can avoid it (e.g. by disabling DRI) -
> that's why I haven't written about it earlier - but the computer _really_
> seems dead. Doesn't even answer a ping, and a hard reset is the only cure.

That would be a very thorough lockup.


> I'll try to figure out how to make gdm restart instead of just resetting the 
> X server.

AlwaysRestartServer=true

in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, which I just noticed seems to be the default in
recent versions though, but I can't reproduce the problem setting it to
false either.


> I've tried with 4.2.99.3 and 4.2.99.901 (actually CVS from couple of days
> after that release), RedHat 8, gcc 3.2, and I have tried both RedHat
> 2.4.18 kernels and Marcelo's 2.4.21-pre4.

Are you using the DRM that comes with the kernel or built from CVS?

Also, AGP settings could have an impact, as well as Mike's suggestion
about other hardware.


> I realize that this isn't really enough information to troubleshoot
> sensibly, but I just wanted to let you know for now that this problem does
> exist for others too and for later Radeons than the R100 as well.

I didn't mean to say it was a rare or irrelevant problem (don't have any
numbers), just that it doesn't happen everywhere either.


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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-20 Thread Per Bjornsson 
On 21 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 01:20, Gary Greene wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 4:40 pm, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 06:23, Gary Greene wrote:
> > > > I've got a little problem with XFree's beta release 4.2.99. When I
> > > > logout, or whenever the card blanks the screen (in X mode) my Linux
> > > > system hangs and refuses to come out of the sinal off status. This
> > > > happens only when DRI is enabled. with DRI off the card response
> > > > normally. However, there goes my 3D Hardware support at that time:(
> > > >
> > > > At this time I am forced to "zap" X to log in as another user, or since
> > > > I've got X set up as a SysV-styled service, I have to run /etc/init.d/dm
> > > > stop then restart it.
> > >
> > > Does that work even after logging out? Does setting up the display
> > > manager to always restart the X server work around the problem in that
> > > situation?
> >
> > It (my system) hangs whenever I try to logout with the dm.
>
> So have you tried setting your dm up to restart the server on logout?
> They only reset it by default.
>
> > This is the reason that I am forced to either telinit 3 or "zap" X. This
> > same or similar issue has been reported on the DRI site by me and others
> > using the ATI Radeon (r100) chipset devices.
>
> The thing is, if zapping the server works, then it can't be something
> really bad like a lockup. Maybe the server is running fine, there's
> 'just' no display?

I think that I might be seeing the same problem on a Sapphire Radeon 9000
(detected as a RV250 If) - at least I am seeing similar behavior. The only
thing that triggers the lock for me is logging out while running a display
manager though, at least I haven't seen any other lockups lately. I
haven't had time to nail down if I can avoid it (e.g. by disabling DRI) -
that's why I haven't written about it earlier - but the computer _really_
seems dead. Doesn't even answer a ping, and a hard reset is the only cure.
Nothing shows up in the logs. I'm starting the computer in text mode and
starting X with startx for now, that works fine but having a DM running
would be nice. I'll try to figure out how to make gdm restart instead of
just resetting the X server. (That computer is at home and turned off,
won't be there for a few hours so I can't test it for a while yet.)

I've tried with 4.2.99.3 and 4.2.99.901 (actually CVS from couple of days
after that release), RedHat 8, gcc 3.2, and I have tried both RedHat
2.4.18 kernels and Marcelo's 2.4.21-pre4.

I realize that this isn't really enough information to troubleshoot
sensibly, but I just wanted to let you know for now that this problem does
exist for others too and for later Radeons than the R100 as well.

Apart from this problem I think that XFree86 4.3 looks pretty cool!

Best regards,
Per Bjornsson


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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-20 Thread Michel Dänzer 
On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 01:20, Gary Greene wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 4:40 pm, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 06:23, Gary Greene wrote:
> > > I've got a little problem with XFree's beta release 4.2.99. When I
> > > logout, or whenever the card blanks the screen (in X mode) my Linux
> > > system hangs and refuses to come out of the sinal off status. This
> > > happens only when DRI is enabled. with DRI off the card response
> > > normally. However, there goes my 3D Hardware support at that time:(
> > >
> > > At this time I am forced to "zap" X to log in as another user, or since
> > > I've got X set up as a SysV-styled service, I have to run /etc/init.d/dm
> > > stop then restart it.
> >
> > Does that work even after logging out? Does setting up the display
> > manager to always restart the X server work around the problem in that
> > situation?
> 
> It (my system) hangs whenever I try to logout with the dm. 

So have you tried setting your dm up to restart the server on logout?
They only reset it by default.

> This is the reason that I am forced to either telinit 3 or "zap" X. This 
> same or similar issue has been reported on the DRI site by me and others 
> using the ATI Radeon (r100) chipset devices. 

The thing is, if zapping the server works, then it can't be something
really bad like a lockup. Maybe the server is running fine, there's
'just' no display?

> I'd have to classify this as a serious bug in the DRI/DRM architecture.

Yes, but it only happens on some systems, can't reproduce it on any of
the Macs here, nor did it ever happen on the x86 box at work, but then
it's been a while since I last used that.


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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-20 Thread Gary Greene 
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On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 4:40 pm, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 06:23, Gary Greene wrote:
> > I've got a little problem with XFree's beta release 4.2.99. When I
> > logout, or whenever the card blanks the screen (in X mode) my Linux
> > system hangs and refuses to come out of the sinal off status. This
> > happens only when DRI is enabled. with DRI off the card response
> > normally. However, there goes my 3D Hardware support at that time:(
> >
> > At this time I am forced to "zap" X to log in as another user, or since
> > I've got X set up as a SysV-styled service, I have to run /etc/init.d/dm
> > stop then restart it.
>
> Does that work even after logging out? Does setting up the display
> manager to always restart the X server work around the problem in that
> situation?

It (my system) hangs whenever I try to logout with the dm. This is the reason 
that I am forced to either telinit 3 or "zap" X. This same or similar issue 
has been reported on the DRI site by me and others using the ATI Radeon 
(r100) chipset devices. I'd have to classify this as a serious bug in the 
DRI/DRM architecture.

> As for screen blanking, do you use OpenGL or otherwise fancy
> screensavers?

That aspect of the problem disappeared this morning when I updated to the most 
recent CVS snapshot, however logout is still causing difficulties.

> > This is a little aggrivating since I recently bought my ATI AIW
> > Radeon 7500 because of the 3D support and the TV tuning capabilities.
>
> In the worst case, you could always run your normal X session with DRI
> disabled and start another X server with DRI enabled when necessary.

Yes, I could. However, this is a major step backwards in the XFree86 project's 
capabilities from earlier versions (eg. 4.2.1).

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Re: [XFree86] X11 crashing system with ATI Radeon 7500 QW...

2003-02-20 Thread Michel Dänzer 
On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 06:23, Gary Greene wrote: 
> 
> I've got a little problem with XFree's beta release 4.2.99. When I logout, or 
> whenever the card blanks the screen (in X mode) my Linux system hangs and 
> refuses to come out of the sinal off status. This happens only when DRI is 
> enabled. with DRI off the card response normally. However, there goes my 3D 
> Hardware support at that time:(
> 
> At this time I am forced to "zap" X to log in as another user, or since I've 
> got X set up as a SysV-styled service, I have to run /etc/init.d/dm stop then 
> restart it. 

Does that work even after logging out? Does setting up the display
manager to always restart the X server work around the problem in that
situation?

As for screen blanking, do you use OpenGL or otherwise fancy
screensavers?

> This is a little aggrivating since I recently bought my ATI AIW 
> Radeon 7500 because of the 3D support and the TV tuning capabilities.

In the worst case, you could always run your normal X session with DRI
disabled and start another X server with DRI enabled when necessary.


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Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

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