[xmail] Delivery Attempts Question

2004-03-01 Thread Toby Reiter
All,
I wanted to find out how XMail handles delivery attempts, especially 
in terms of number of attempts and time elapse after the first 
attempt before XMail calls it quits.

We've noticed two things:

a) When a message can't be received by anther server (i.e. a 4xx 
code) it stops trying to send the message after 1 day.  A lot of 
other MTAs seem to keep trying for 7 days (trying 1x day after the 
first day) to send on the message.

b) We have a backup MX that we generally use for our own internal 
use.  It's also being used as the backup MX server for one of our 
clients who uses an Exchange server. One time last week, when the 
exchange server was down for a day or so, the backup MX continued 
trying to send on messages for the first day using SMTPRELAY, but 
then stopped after that.

Is there any way to extend the timeout for re-sending and relaying 
messages?  I don't remember seeing this on this list before

Thanks,
Toby
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[xmail] Re: Delivery Attempts Question

2004-03-01 Thread Charles Frolick
It is in the manual under command line options
(http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#command_line) in the SMAIL section
(the -Qx options), particularly the -Qi and -Qr settings. You can make it do
pretty much whatever you like.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net

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Subject: [xmail] Delivery Attempts Question

All,
I wanted to find out how XMail handles delivery attempts, especially in
terms of number of attempts and time elapse after the first attempt before
XMail calls it quits.

We've noticed two things:

a) When a message can't be received by anther server (i.e. a 4xx
code) it stops trying to send the message after 1 day.  A lot of other MTAs
seem to keep trying for 7 days (trying 1x day after the first day) to send
on the message.

b) We have a backup MX that we generally use for our own internal use.  It's
also being used as the backup MX server for one of our clients who uses an
Exchange server. One time last week, when the exchange server was down for a
day or so, the backup MX continued trying to send on messages for the first
day using SMTPRELAY, but then stopped after that.

Is there any way to extend the timeout for re-sending and relaying messages?
I don't remember seeing this on this list before

Thanks,
Toby
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[xmail] Re: Delivery Attempts Question

2004-03-01 Thread Charles Frolick
Follow up to my last post.  I forgot to tell you the -Qt option as well.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net

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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Delivery Attempts Question

All,
I wanted to find out how XMail handles delivery attempts, especially in
terms of number of attempts and time elapse after the first attempt before
XMail calls it quits.

We've noticed two things:

a) When a message can't be received by anther server (i.e. a 4xx
code) it stops trying to send the message after 1 day.  A lot of other MTAs
seem to keep trying for 7 days (trying 1x day after the first day) to send
on the message.

b) We have a backup MX that we generally use for our own internal use.  It's
also being used as the backup MX server for one of our clients who uses an
Exchange server. One time last week, when the exchange server was down for a
day or so, the backup MX continued trying to send on messages for the first
day using SMTPRELAY, but then stopped after that.

Is there any way to extend the timeout for re-sending and relaying messages?
I don't remember seeing this on this list before

Thanks,
Toby
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[xmail] XMAIL not returning undeliverable messages with Yahoo or Hotmail

2004-03-01 Thread Riaz Oosman
Hi Guys,

When I send email to an invalid or mistyped yahoo.com or hotmail.com
account, I notice that XMAIL does NOT send me an undeliverable message.
There are some domains which I DO get undeliverable messages and some
that I DO NOT get undeliverable messages.

I purposely sent email to invalid yahoo and hotmail accounts through
another SMTP server and it DID send me undeliverable messages.

The only difference I can tell is that yahoo and hotmail give 550 Errors,
where as other domains give 511errors.
Has anyone else noticed this behavior?

Thanks.

Riaz...

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[xmail] Re: XMAIL not returning undeliverable messages with Yahoo or Hotmail

2004-03-01 Thread Bill Healy
Do you have AllowNullSender disabled?

Bill

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>Subject:   [xmail] XMAIL not returning undeliverable messages with Yahoo or
>Hotmail
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>Hi Guys,
>
>When I send email to an invalid or mistyped yahoo.com or hotmail.com
>account, I notice that XMAIL does NOT send me an undeliverable message.
>There are some domains which I DO get undeliverable messages and some
>that I DO NOT get undeliverable messages.
>
>I purposely sent email to invalid yahoo and hotmail accounts through
>another SMTP server and it DID send me undeliverable messages.
>
>The only difference I can tell is that yahoo and hotmail give 550 Errors,
>where as other domains give 511errors.
>Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Riaz...
>
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[xmail] Re: XMAIL not returning undeliverable messages with Yahoo or Hotmail

2004-03-01 Thread Riaz Oosman

>Do you have AllowNullSender disabled?

Hi Bill,

Yes it is set at 0,
I have also tried it with AllowNullSender set at 1 and
the behavior is the same.

Thanks.

Riaz...

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