[xmail] Re: Psync don't get them all

2004-03-25 Thread D.Spork
That 's the cure, thanks.
Dick

At 03:46 25-03-2004, you wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, D.Spork wrote:

  Hi,
  The suggestions in this answer are already in my system, but don't give 
 the
  solution for the problem.
  Following the example only mail with a to to a fellins.net or pets.org
  user are retrieved from the mail box, but a to: undisclosed recipients
  (without a domain) stays in the mailbox  and fill it up.
  Davide-- Is it possible to do a dele after each retr to the external
  pop-server? may be controlled by a *.* domain name in a pop3links.tab 
 record?
 
  Or any better idea?

Do you have Pop3SyncErrorAccount set?



- Davide


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[xmail] Yahoo groups again

2004-03-25 Thread Liron Newman
This is what I get when yahoogroups sends me an e-mail (With 
CheckMailerDomain=0). This same message wouldn't go through if 
CheckMailerDomain was 1.
I still haven't upgraded to1.17, so maybe I shouldn't be posting this, 
but I figured someone might want to have a look...

If you don't, just ignore me. :)

myhostmyhost66.218.66.822004-03-25 12:33:17
n26.grp.scd.yahoo.comultinet.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]S26A3ARECV=OK2003




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[xmail] Re: Yahoo groups again

2004-03-25 Thread Snke Ruempler
 I still haven't upgraded to1.17, so maybe I shouldn't be posting this,
 but I figured someone might want to have a look...

Upgrading to 1.17 should solve the problem.
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[xmail] Problem: [503 need RCPT

2004-03-25 Thread Lista MORCOM
command [data]]
X-Priority: 1
X-Mailer: SmartPost phpmailer [version 1.62]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-original-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Precedence: bulk
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-list: xmail

Hello! 
 
I have some virtual domains working with my
server. 
 
I have small big problem - with one e-mail and my
virtual 
domain I have received this error: 
 
 [00] XMail bounce:
[EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[503 
need RCPT 
command [data]] 
 
 
 [01] Error sending message
[1080133625222.85868571.smtp] 
from 
[wiwat.pl]. 
 
 ID:        S94F5 
 Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Server:    gateway-s.comcast.net
[204.127.202.26] 
 
 
 [02] The reason of the delivery failure was: 
 
 503 need RCPT command [data] 
 
 
 [05] Here is listed the initial part of the
message: 
 
 X-AV-Scanned: yes
 17d7f1a5b3aba1cd574222f2b4173a75 
 Received: from z9s6w1 (217.75.55.55:1753) 
 by smtp.wiwat.pl with [XMail 1.17 (Linux/Ix86)
ESMTP Server] 
 id S94F5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
 Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:07:04 +0100 
 Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 From: P.P.H.U. 2M Sp. z o.o. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: : e-mail 
 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:09:31 +0100 
 MIME-Version: 1.0 
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 

boundary==_NextPart_000_0011_01C411A9.A0D0CC00

 X-Priority: 3 
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal 
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2800.1158 
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE
V6.00.2800.1165 
 
 
From another domain: wiwat.pl - all works OK -
this domain is 
holded on the same machine 
 
What is wrong? 
What I need to do? 
 
And pls note, that the recipient couldn't send an
e-mail to 
domain 2m.com.pl - he received the error message
to!!! 
HELP ME... 

+
MORCOM - POLSKA
web: http://www.wiwat.pl



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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shiloh Jennings
  http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html
  = SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail
  What about XMail?

I figured I would bring this topic back up.  :)  AOL is already publishing
SPF records for their domain.  Any email server with SPF support is able to
automatically filtering out forged aol.com email.  The support for SPF is
growing (especially with big ISPs like AOL supporting it now), and I would
really like to see SPF support in an upcoming version of XMail.  Any chance
we might see SPF support in 1.18 or 2.x?

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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote:

   http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html
   = SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail
   What about XMail?
 
 I figured I would bring this topic back up.  :)  AOL is already publishing
 SPF records for their domain.  Any email server with SPF support is able to
 automatically filtering out forged aol.com email.  The support for SPF is
 growing (especially with big ISPs like AOL supporting it now), and I would
 really like to see SPF support in an upcoming version of XMail.  Any chance
 we might see SPF support in 1.18 or 2.x?

I'm sorry but my answer is the same. If I had to add piece of codes to fit 
all those pseudo-standards (that born today to die tomorrow), XMail would 
be bloated enough only for that. When/if a decent percent of the internet 
will support such standard, I will add the code.



- Davide


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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shawn Anderson
Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/  I agree, I would
love to see Xmail have more spam fighting capabilities in it.  The only way
we are going to see more usage of it on the internet is if we actually put
it in place :)
Sorry, wanted to add my thoughts -- this SPAM thing is really getting to me
and my customers...

Shawn 

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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:13 PM
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Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote:

   http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html
   = SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail 
   What about XMail?
 
 I figured I would bring this topic back up.  :)  AOL is already 
 publishing SPF records for their domain.  Any email server with SPF 
 support is able to automatically filtering out forged aol.com email.  
 The support for SPF is growing (especially with big ISPs like AOL 
 supporting it now), and I would really like to see SPF support in an 
 upcoming version of XMail.  Any chance we might see SPF support in 1.18 or
2.x?

I'm sorry but my answer is the same. If I had to add piece of codes to fit
all those pseudo-standards (that born today to die tomorrow), XMail would be
bloated enough only for that. When/if a decent percent of the internet will
support such standard, I will add the code.



- Davide


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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shawn Anderson
I really do understand your point :)  But look at the amount of spam --
something needs to be done.  It looks like some serious players are backing
this particular idea.  
So what about going back the discussion that was on the list for a while
about a filter at is triggered just before the data section so that a
lookup like SPF or one of the others (if SPF doesn't make it).

And as much as I am not a fan of MS or AOL, between the two of them they
control way more than 0.001% of the mail traffic on the internet.  If you
add all the hotmail users and aol users, I would argue that you have more
than 30% of the internet mail users just in those two groups.  Plus even if
just those two support SPF, that would cut down on about 50% of the SPAM,
because it is those two addresses that spammers forge and use a lot of the
time.  Maybe it is not a perfect solution, but heck if I/we could cut out
30% of the SPAM -- that would be an awesome start :)

S

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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:56 PM
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Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote:

 Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/  I agree, I 
 would love to see Xmail have more spam fighting capabilities in it.  
 The only way we are going to see more usage of it on the internet is 
 if we actually put it in place :)

So, should I drop in code for every sub-standard that pops up here and there
used at most by 0.001% of the internet?



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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote:

 I really do understand your point :)  But look at the amount of spam --
 something needs to be done.  It looks like some serious players are backing
 this particular idea.  
 So what about going back the discussion that was on the list for a while
 about a filter at is triggered just before the data section so that a
 lookup like SPF or one of the others (if SPF doesn't make it).

Then do an SPF filter in Perl. You don't need to do it inside XMail. You 
have all the info inside the spool file XMail header. No?



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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shiloh Jennings
 Then do an SPF filter in Perl. You don't need to do it inside XMail. You
 have all the info inside the spool file XMail header. No?

Good point.  SpamAssassin 2.70 is going to support SPF, so we could just
have SA do the SPF lookups instead of XMail.  That is fair.  What I am more
interested in at this point is whether or not forwarding is going to work
correctly with XMail.
http://spf.pobox.com/emailforwarders.pdf


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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Wim Verveen
No you shouldn't but you should also look for developments which show
that a standard will be accepted by the majority and incorparate that
one. I have now idea how far this SPF thing is in that direction.
The fact that major players are backing it suggests it might be a good
idea.=20

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  Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/ =20
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[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Snke Ruempler
 And as much as I am not a fan of MS or AOL, between the two of them
 they control way more than 0.001% of the mail traffic on the
 internet.  If you add all the hotmail users and aol users, I would
 argue that you have more than 30% of the internet mail users just in
 those two groups.  Plus even if just those two support SPF, that
 would cut down on about 50% of the SPAM, because it is those two
 addresses that spammers forge and use a lot of the time.  Maybe it is
 not a perfect solution, but heck if I/we could cut out 30% of the
 SPAM -- that would be an awesome start :)

The spammers are not stupid, so they don't use @[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc.
anymore and SPF is useless. ;(

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