[xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs
By the way, Sönke, the solution you outlined is working perfectly - thanks! Jeff Sönke Ruempler wrote: >Hi Eric, > >On 18.07.2005 20:38, Eric Garnice wrote: > > > >>I have an XMail server in front of an Exchange server solely doing >>SpamAssassin. A problem arises where missed spam is sent to a bogus user on >>the domain where the from address is a valid distribution group on the same >>domain. The result is everyone on the distribution group receiving a copy >>of the non-delivery report. Is there any way to prevent these reports to be >>sent to valid users? >> >> > >I guess the problem you have is very similar to Jeff Buehler's thread >one day ago and you maybe want to read that ;-) >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs
Unfortunately nothing mentioned will work for me as my XMail is actually the third relay mail hits within the organization, and I have no control over the first two. I tried a third-party script to create a catchall account in Exchange, but that proved to be typically MS unreliable catching as much valid user mail as invalid. ;) I guess it's back to blacklisting all the distribution list addresses in SpamAssassin and trashing it there. Ugly, but it works as these addresses should never be sending mail. Hey, I wonder if XScanner would pick up the NDR's (forced to run XMail on the overpowered Exchange server)... sounds like a plan. Thanks all! - Original Message - From: "Sönke Ruempler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs > > Hi Eric, > > On 18.07.2005 20:38, Eric Garnice wrote: > >> I have an XMail server in front of an Exchange server solely doing >> SpamAssassin. A problem arises where missed spam is sent to a bogus user >> on >> the domain where the from address is a valid distribution group on the >> same >> domain. The result is everyone on the distribution group receiving a >> copy >> of the non-delivery report. Is there any way to prevent these reports to >> be >> sent to valid users? > > I guess the problem you have is very similar to Jeff Buehler's thread > one day ago and you maybe want to read that ;-) > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs
Eric Buddy, Remember me, long time no see, see you around, have fun at argostuff if your still around Kieran Westergard Original Message Follows From: "Eric Garnice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: xmail@xmailserver.org To: Subject: [xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:16:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([69.30.125.51]) by mc11-f21.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:17:56 -0700 Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([127.0.0.1]:50386)by localhost.localdomain with [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server]id for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:16:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list xmail); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.toxicservers.com ([69.39.174.74]:8787)by xmailserver.org with [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server]id for from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:16:41 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])by mail.toxicservers.comfor xmail@xmailserver.org;Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:15:13 -0400 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFfjPiR7ZBK+4qPt3pqaaE4pt2Z+46cJYU= References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-original-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-list: xmail Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2005 21:17:56.0508 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AAF9DC0:01C58BDE] Doh! Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Sönke Ruempler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs > > Hi Eric, > > On 18.07.2005 20:38, Eric Garnice wrote: > >> I have an XMail server in front of an Exchange server solely doing >> SpamAssassin. A problem arises where missed spam is sent to a bogus user >> on >> the domain where the from address is a valid distribution group on the >> same >> domain. The result is everyone on the distribution group receiving a >> copy >> of the non-delivery report. Is there any way to prevent these reports to >> be >> sent to valid users? > > I guess the problem you have is very similar to Jeff Buehler's thread > one day ago and you maybe want to read that ;-) > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Suppress NDRs
Hello all. I have an XMail server in front of an Exchange server solely doing SpamAssassin. A problem arises where missed spam is sent to a bogus user on the domain where the from address is a valid distribution group on the same domain. The result is everyone on the distribution group receiving a copy of the non-delivery report. Is there any way to prevent these reports to be sent to valid users? Thanks, Eric - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs
Doh! Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Sönke Ruempler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs > > Hi Eric, > > On 18.07.2005 20:38, Eric Garnice wrote: > >> I have an XMail server in front of an Exchange server solely doing >> SpamAssassin. A problem arises where missed spam is sent to a bogus user >> on >> the domain where the from address is a valid distribution group on the >> same >> domain. The result is everyone on the distribution group receiving a >> copy >> of the non-delivery report. Is there any way to prevent these reports to >> be >> sent to valid users? > > I guess the problem you have is very similar to Jeff Buehler's thread > one day ago and you maybe want to read that ;-) > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Suppress NDRs
Hi Eric, On 18.07.2005 20:38, Eric Garnice wrote: > I have an XMail server in front of an Exchange server solely doing > SpamAssassin. A problem arises where missed spam is sent to a bogus user on > the domain where the from address is a valid distribution group on the same > domain. The result is everyone on the distribution group receiving a copy > of the non-delivery report. Is there any way to prevent these reports to be > sent to valid users? I guess the problem you have is very similar to Jeff Buehler's thread one day ago and you maybe want to read that ;-) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: undeliverable message auto delete
The BIG problem is to find when to send the error or not as spammers generaly use legitimate emails as 'From'*/'MAIL FROM' !! The best is to use filtering tools like glst (will eliminate 90% spammers how connect directly to your server) and then spamassassin like products to qualify possible spams from legitimate servers for the reminding mails Francis -Message d'origine- De: Jeff Buehler A: xmail@xmailserver.org Date: 17/07/05 23:10 Objet: [xmail] Re: undeliverable message auto delete Thanks, Sönke - I was hoping to keep them in the queue for awhile, but I am collecting 500 or more undeliverables a day presently since I am forwarding to a domain that is getting heavily spammed. When spammers send spam to bogus users at the busy Exchange server I am forwarding to, it predicatably sends back the "user doesn't exist" message, then xmail correctly attempts to send that back to the spammer who, of course, doesn't accept incoming mail, and so the message is undelivered. Are you aeware of a better way to handle this sort of interaction? I could create a user to match every user on the Exchange server and at least cut out a hop, but XMail will still then try to send the "no user by that name" reply back to the spammer. I guess it's important to notify valid senders to the domain that a given user doesn't exist, though... Is that an RFC requirement? In the meantime, I am going to turn on RemoveSpoolErrors as you mentioned just so I don't have to go empty out the undeliverable queue every three days manually. Thanks again! Jeff Sönke Ruempler wrote: >Hi Jeff, > >On 17.07.2005 22:53, Jeff Buehler wrote: > > > >>Does anyone know of an existing solution for the auto-deletion of >>undeliverable messages in XMail? I am running FreeBSD. >> >>Writing something to remove them all periodically would be pretty easy, >>but I would like something that allows a settable "time to collect dust" >>before removing undeliverables in the FROZ directory, which seems like >>it might be useful to a lot of people. I guess this wouldn't be too >>difficult to write either - just query the present date against the mail >>creation date. But it would still be easier to use someone elses >>already working solution, if one exists! >> >> > >The only switch that XMail provides at present is the server.tab variable: > >[RemoveSpoolErrors] >Indicate if mail has to be removed or stored in 'froz' directory >after a failure in delivery or filtering. > >So errors are removed just in time. >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
