[xmail] Re: senderid
>From your own sources: "But Wong, who co-authored both the SPF and Sender ID standards, said that stopping spam was never the intention of SPF or Sender ID. The technology is merely a way to stop one loophole spammers use: source address spoofing. Evidence that spammers are publishing SPF records is a good sign, Meng said. 'Spammers are buying into a future that will wipe them out', he said. In theory, when all spammers are forced to publish SPF records, along with all legitimate e-mail senders, it will be easy for legitimate companies to develop e-mail reputations for Internet domains that do and do not send spam, he said." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://news.com.com/2100-1029_3-5357269.html > > or > > http://www.spamfo.co.uk/component/option,com_content/task,view > /id,118/Itemid,2/ > > or > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html > > the list goes on... > > - Original Message - > From: "Alexander Hagenah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:24 AM > Subject: [xmail] Re: senderid > > >> Mike Harrington wrote on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:56 AM: >> >>> Spammers can (and have) create SPF records for themselves. >> >> No, they can't. But they can evaluate them from the server. >> That's the real problem. >> In fact, it's a good idea, but not really practicable. >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Alexander Hagenah >> - >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: OT: Spam & SPF
Mike Harrington wrote: > Hey guys, just read these articles about spammers using SPF. Thought > you might find them interesting as well: >=20 > http://news.com.com/Study%3A+Spammers+use+e-mail+ID+to+gain+legitimacy/2 100-1029_3-5357269.html?tag=3Dnefd.top >=20 > and >=20 > http://www.mxlogic.com/news_events/09_08_04.html >=20 > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >=20 >=20 > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.756 / Virus Database: 506 - Release Date: 08/09/2004 It's hardly fair to criticise SPF for failing to do something it was never designed to do. SPF is designed to prevent phishing and spoofing and it seems to do a good job of that.=20 Besides, if spammers are openly advertising which domain they are sending from, it should be much easier to blacklist them or prosecute if they're breaking laws (yeah I know that's wishful thinking but you never know). Give it a chance. --=20 Michael Luke - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
Peter Lindeman wrote: > Davide Libenzi wrote: > >>> This sounds like a perfect candidate for the new pre-data SMTP >>> filters. Any takers? >> >> >> Me me: >> >> http://www.xmailserver.org/xm-spf.pl > > From what I have seen now from it is that a domain should have a SPF > record made in DNS, if the domain does not have it a mail will always > pass. As long as not all domains in the whole world do have SPF > records what is the sense of this at all? Not true. SPF can be used in 'best guess' mode for a domain with no DNS record. I'm not sure exactly how this works, but I believe that it defaults to allowing mail from any A or MX host in the sending domain. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] SPF
Hi everybody. I've just started using Xmail 1.18 and am impressed by how well it runs. Does Xmail contain features that I can use to verify Sender Policy Framework rules? http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html Thanks, Michael Luke - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
