[xmail] Re: Email address reverse check

2006-10-27 Thread Kirk Friggstad

>From http://xmailserver.org/Readme.html#server_tab_variables

[AllowNullSender]
Enable null sender ('MAIL FROM:<>') messages to be accepted by XMail. 

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Helio Cavichiolo Jr
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:33 PM
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Subject: [xmail] Email address reverse check


I'm having problems sending messages to some servers that do reverse check 
because XMail demands email addresses enclosure with <>.
Is there a way to inhibit this need?
Take a look on this chat:

helo220-host1.northweb.com.br ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 
18:22:29 -0200
220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.
 corp.cobranet.com.br
250 host1.northweb.com.br Hello corp.cobranet.com.br [200.190.197.66]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 OK
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550-Callback setup failed while verifying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
550-(result of an earlier callout reused).
550-The initial connection, or a HELO or MAIL FROM:<> command was
550-rejected. Refusing MAIL FROM:<> does not help fight spam, disregards
550-RFC requirements, and stops you from receiving standard bounce
550-messages. This host does not accept mail from domains whose servers
550-refuse bounces.
550 Sender verify failed
quit
221 host1.northweb.com.br closing connection
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[xmail] Re: Email address reverse check

2006-10-30 Thread CLEMENT Francis


The program used on the other side to do the 'reverse check' is simple not
RFC compliant :)
(Does the 'reverse check' an integrated Exim fonctionnality or an add-on ? I
don't know ...)

The exact RFC "mail from" syntax IS : MAIL FROM:

IMOO, changing xmail to accept no rfc compliant programms is a bad think !

Best choice is to send a warning to the postmaster to update the offending
software.

Francis



-Message d'origine-
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Helio Cavichiolo Jr
Envoyé : samedi 28 octobre 2006 00:33
À : xmail@xmailserver.org
Objet : [xmail] Email address reverse check



I'm having problems sending messages to some servers that do reverse check 
because XMail demands email addresses enclosure with <>.
Is there a way to inhibit this need?
Take a look on this chat:

helo220-host1.northweb.com.br ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 
18:22:29 -0200
220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.
 corp.cobranet.com.br
250 host1.northweb.com.br Hello corp.cobranet.com.br [200.190.197.66]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 OK
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550-Callback setup failed while verifying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
550-(result of an earlier callout reused).
550-The initial connection, or a HELO or MAIL FROM:<> command was
550-rejected. Refusing MAIL FROM:<> does not help fight spam, disregards
550-RFC requirements, and stops you from receiving standard bounce
550-messages. This host does not accept mail from domains whose servers
550-refuse bounces.
550 Sender verify failed
quit
221 host1.northweb.com.br closing connection
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[xmail] Re: Email address reverse check

2006-10-30 Thread decker

Hellos,

I'm on a different comp than usual so I may be off here since I'm
missing the earlier discussion about this.

> The program used on the other side to do the 'reverse check' is
> simple not RFC compliant :)
> (Does the 'reverse check' an integrated Exim fonctionnality or an
> add-on ? I don't know ...)

It's also not complaining about the syntax used. What the exim server
is complaining about is that when it tried it's sender_verify callout,
back to the xmailserver, it tried to send a message to the "from" user
in your email to the IP sending the mail with a from address of "<>".
By default I don't think xmail accepts this even though it is allowable
per the RFC. To enable it, set the following to "1" in server.tab :

"AllowNullSender"   "0"

> 550-Callback setup failed while verifying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 550-(result of an earlier callout reused).
> 550-The initial connection, or a HELO or MAIL FROM:<> command was
> 550-rejected. Refusing MAIL FROM:<> does not help fight spam,
> disregards 550-RFC requirements, and stops you from receiving
> standard bounce 550-messages. This host does not accept mail from
> domains whose servers 550-refuse bounces.
> 550 Sender verify failed

The server in this example is running cPanel which sets that as the
default error message when doing the sender_verify using a null 
"From: <>" address.

~darren
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[xmail] Re: Email address reverse check

2006-10-30 Thread Helio Cavichiolo Jr

Em Sexta 27 Outubro 2006 21:04, Kirk Friggstad escreveu:
> From http://xmailserver.org/Readme.html#server_tab_variables
>
> [AllowNullSender]
> Enable null sender ('MAIL FROM:<>') messages to be accepted by XMail.

Thanks Kirk, it solved the problem.

Helio
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[xmail] Re: Email address reverse check

2006-10-30 Thread CLEMENT Francis



>-Message d'origine-
>De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de decker
>Envoyé : lundi 30 octobre 2006 12:41
>À : xmail@xmailserver.org
>Objet : [xmail] Re: Email address reverse check
>
>
>
>Hellos,
>
>I'm on a different comp than usual so I may be off here since I'm
>missing the earlier discussion about this.
>
>> The program used on the other side to do the 'reverse check' is
>> simple not RFC compliant :)
>> (Does the 'reverse check' an integrated Exim fonctionnality or an
>> add-on ? I don't know ...)
>
>It's also not complaining about the syntax used. What the exim server
>is complaining about is that when it tried it's sender_verify callout,
>back to the xmailserver, it tried to send a message to the "from" user
>in your email to the IP sending the mail with a from address of "<>".
>By default I don't think xmail accepts this even though it is allowable
>per the RFC. To enable it, set the following to "1" in server.tab :
>
>"AllowNullSender"   "0"
>
>> 550-Callback setup failed while verifying 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 550-(result of an earlier callout reused).
>> 550-The initial connection, or a HELO or MAIL FROM:<> command was
>> 550-rejected. Refusing MAIL FROM:<> does not help fight spam,
>> disregards 550-RFC requirements, and stops you from receiving
>> standard bounce 550-messages. This host does not accept mail from
>> domains whose servers 550-refuse bounces.
>> 550 Sender verify failed
>
>The server in this example is running cPanel which sets that as the
>default error message when doing the sender_verify using a null 
>"From: <>" address.
>
>~darren
>-

You are right :)
In fact the lines bellow without '<' and '>' put me in error :

250 host1.northweb.com.br Hello corp.cobranet.com.br [200.190.197.66]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 OK
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Francis
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