Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Saturday 03 October 2009 04:15:12 Alan Coopersmith wrote: Jeremy Huddleston wrote: If anyone disagrees with these, or the module versions listed as being a stable, X11R7.5-compatible version that should be included in the katamari, now is the time to speak, as at the rate we're going, we should have the X11R7.5 release finished by this time next week. ... xineramaproto1.1.2 1.2 xinput1.3.0* xinit seems to be omitted... and it could use a bump too. xinit was not on the X11R7.4 katamari modules list, but is on my list of modules needing a release made. I'm not sure why it was removed - perhaps because the expectation is most users get X11 started via a display manager like gdm/kdm now? Though that wouldn't apply to Cygwin MacOS X users, so xinit would seem to be a core part of their window system. As a Linux user, I prefer not to use gdm/kdm -- and BTW I don't use HAL either, so I'd like to remain able to use X without one of these. Only my two cents. Didier ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
Didier Spaier wrote: On Saturday 03 October 2009 04:15:12 Alan Coopersmith wrote: Jeremy Huddleston wrote: If anyone disagrees with these, or the module versions listed as being a stable, X11R7.5-compatible version that should be included in the katamari, now is the time to speak, as at the rate we're going, we should have the X11R7.5 release finished by this time next week. ... xineramaproto1.1.2 1.2 xinput1.3.0* xinit seems to be omitted... and it could use a bump too. xinit was not on the X11R7.4 katamari modules list, but is on my list of modules needing a release made. I'm not sure why it was removed - perhaps because the expectation is most users get X11 started via a display manager like gdm/kdm now? Though that wouldn't apply to Cygwin MacOS X users, so xinit would seem to be a core part of their window system. As a Linux user, I prefer not to use gdm/kdm -- and BTW I don't use HAL either, so I'd like to remain able to use X without one of these. No is proposing killing xinit - if it's not in the katamari, then you just have to download it from the individual releases directory when you want source, instead of finding it bundled with the other modules in the X11R7.5 directory on the ftp site. If you use distro packages, you may not even notice a difference - it's up to your distro which modules to include in packages, whether they're in or out of the katamari. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Saturday 03 October 2009 10:42:15 Alan Coopersmith wrote: Didier Spaier wrote: On Saturday 03 October 2009 04:15:12 Alan Coopersmith wrote: Jeremy Huddleston wrote: If anyone disagrees with these, or the module versions listed as being a stable, X11R7.5-compatible version that should be included in the katamari, now is the time to speak, as at the rate we're going, we should have the X11R7.5 release finished by this time next week. ... xineramaproto1.1.2 1.2 xinput1.3.0* xinit seems to be omitted... and it could use a bump too. xinit was not on the X11R7.4 katamari modules list, but is on my list of modules needing a release made. I'm not sure why it was removed - perhaps because the expectation is most users get X11 started via a display manager like gdm/kdm now? Though that wouldn't apply to Cygwin MacOS X users, so xinit would seem to be a core part of their window system. As a Linux user, I prefer not to use gdm/kdm -- and BTW I don't use HAL either, so I'd like to remain able to use X without one of these. No is proposing killing xinit - if it's not in the katamari, then you just have to download it from the individual releases directory when you want source, instead of finding it bundled with the other modules in the X11R7.5 directory on the ftp site. If you use distro packages, you may not even notice a difference - it's up to your distro which modules to include in packages, whether they're in or out of the katamari. Thanks for the explanation Alan. I just can't find any clear definition of katamari in Xorg's context, searching the wiki as well as this mailing list :-\ ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
Didier Spaier wrote: Thanks for the explanation Alan. I just can't find any clear definition of katamari in Xorg's context, searching the wiki as well as this mailing list :-\ Sorry, it's what we call the X11R7.x releases in which we roll up a set of individually released modules (the X server, client libraries, protocols, fonts, etc - see the list in the first message in the thread) into a larger release set. GNOME and KDE do similar things to build their desktop environment releases out of each individual module release. It's the core set of packages we think make a usable and useful window system, but which we assume you'll probably want a more complete desktop environment sitting on top of. The term comes from a series of video games [1] - perhaps one of the most exciting bits of information passed on at this year's X Developer's Conference is that they are now available for the iPhone! 8-) [2] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari [2] Okay, so I'm a hopeless geek, which is why I spent my Friday night converting libXv API docs into man pages and releasing X.Org modules... -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
[ANNOUNCE] libXv 1.0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Some minor janitorial work and several new man pages, thanks to the conversion of a long lost Xv 2.2 API doc that was found behind the bookcases in xorg-docs. Alan Coopersmith (7): Add README with pointers to mailing list, bugzilla git repos Adjust flags definitions to fix lint library build Move xv-library-v2.2.txt document from xorg-docs Man page cleanups and formatting fixes Convert documentation from xv-library-v2.2.txt into man pages Migrate to xorg macros 1.3 XORG_DEFAULT_OPTIONS libXv 1.0.5 Paulo Cesar Pereira de Andrade (1): Janitor: make distcheck, compiler warnings, .gitignore. git tag: libXv-1.0.5 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/lib/libXv-1.0.5.tar.bz2 MD5: 1d97798b1d8bbf8d9085e1b223a0738f SHA1: 3936dd661e75d173b9fd1da9d97e5720e9657254 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/lib/libXv-1.0.5.tar.gz MD5: 6ee98790de6b3cd470074e60057d5c5c SHA1: b7eec220d9a591d34bb080857d7bf0d6a5312de3 - -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (SunOS) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkrHF4sACgkQovueCB8tEw4PyACfU1d6DUvprSZPt94bR1E+reIr G3YAn0DgCWC1EYvR2b4oTQFnXackrbVi =vnZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Saturday 03 October 2009 11:11:32 Alan Coopersmith wrote: Didier Spaier wrote: Thanks for the explanation Alan. I just can't find any clear definition of katamari in Xorg's context, searching the wiki as well as this mailing list :-\ Sorry, it's what we call the X11R7.x releases in which we roll up a set of individually released modules (the X server, client libraries, protocols, fonts, etc - see the list in the first message in the thread) into a larger release set. GNOME and KDE do similar things to build their desktop environment releases out of each individual module release. It's the core set of packages we think make a usable and useful window system, but which we assume you'll probably want a more complete desktop environment sitting on top of. The term comes from a series of video games [1] - perhaps one of the most exciting bits of information passed on at this year's X Developer's Conference is that they are now available for the iPhone! 8-) [2] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari [2] Okay, so I'm a hopeless geek, which is why I spent my Friday night converting libXv API docs into man pages and releasing X.Org modules... Now that's perfectly clear. Thanks! Didier ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:15:12 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com Jeremy Huddleston wrote: If anyone disagrees with these, or the module versions listed as being a stable, X11R7.5-compatible version that should be included in the katamari, now is the time to speak, as at the rate we're going, we should have the X11R7.5 release finished by this time next week. ... xineramaproto1.1.2 1.2 xinput1.3.0* xinit seems to be omitted... and it could use a bump too. xinit was not on the X11R7.4 katamari modules list, but is on my list of modules needing a release made. I'm not sure why it was removed - perhaps because the expectation is most users get X11 started via a display manager like gdm/kdm now? Though that wouldn't apply to Cygwin MacOS X users, so xinit would seem to be a core part of their window system. I still use xinit/startx to start X, and very much *do* consider it to be an essential part of X. ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
[ANNOUNCE] xkbcomp 1.1.1
Just one small change to ensure the output file is removed if busted (e.g. if the filesystem is full). Peter Hutterer (1): xkbcomp 1.1.1 Rami Ylimaki (1): xkbcomp: Remove output file if closing fails. git tag: xkbcomp-1.1.1 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/xkbcomp-1.1.1.tar.bz2 MD5: 38c387bacdc01038c8ac280588792bcf xkbcomp-1.1.1.tar.bz2 SHA1: aeb733c495d7afd42136bf8ae5c6e792c63f0b4b xkbcomp-1.1.1.tar.bz2 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/xkbcomp-1.1.1.tar.gz MD5: e38ee7fb02992a37b90251c2b7d7305e xkbcomp-1.1.1.tar.gz SHA1: ac3f35e99a0519b8b64e72886010e46775c83b08 xkbcomp-1.1.1.tar.gz pgpTwiXc8L6qW.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 06:39:50PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: xf86-input-evdev 2.0.4* xf86-input-joystick 1.3.2* xf86-input-keyboard 1.3.1* xf86-input-mouse 1.3.0* xinput 1.3.0* I'll be doing releases for them this week, I should have some time to hack on them now. xkbcomp 1.0.5* just pushed 1.1.1 out. Cheers, Peter ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Now that whot has heroically finished the xserver-1.7 release, we're nearing the finish line for the X11R7.5 release. ... I'm uncertain about xf86-video-openchrome - it's not had a new release since last year, so I don't know if it's compatible with the Xorg ABI changes, but it was a maintained driver. openchrome trunk is ok with xserver 1.7, I'll take care of a release during next week. Regards, Xavier ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Saturday 03 October 2009, Mark Kettenis wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:15:12 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com Jeremy Huddleston wrote: If anyone disagrees with these, or the module versions listed as being a stable, X11R7.5-compatible version that should be included in the katamari, now is the time to speak, as at the rate we're going, we should have the X11R7.5 release finished by this time next week. ... xineramaproto1.1.2 1.2 xinput1.3.0* xinit seems to be omitted... and it could use a bump too. xinit was not on the X11R7.4 katamari modules list, but is on my list of modules needing a release made. I'm not sure why it was removed - perhaps because the expectation is most users get X11 started via a display manager like gdm/kdm now? Though that wouldn't apply to Cygwin MacOS X users, so xinit would seem to be a core part of their window system. I still use xinit/startx to start X, and very much *do* consider it to be an essential part of X. +1000, Amen and hip hip hooray. I have never started X any other way, and consider it the only safe way to get a gui. Please do NOT remove that. Ever. IMO 7.5 will be broken horribly if its not included. ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a test load. ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: MPX: Is there somewhere a wiki listing activities?
Now I wonder whether there is a wiki or such describing who is working on which features / applications to make them work smoothly with mpx features representing a global state of this all? I am working on mpx support in synergy+ [1] for the Deskotheque [2] project :) There's also my patch for FreeGLUT, available at http://tisch.sourceforge.net/freeglut-2.6.0-mpx-r6.patch (see also other mail.) Yours, Florian signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
FreeGLUT MPX/XI2 patch r6
Hello everybody, just wanted to announce the availability of rev. 6 of my MPX/XI2 patch for FreeGLUT (which is likely to be the final one for some time). Rev. 5 added support for modifier keys in the extension callbacks while rev. 6 also adds support for legacy callbacks for backwards compatibility. I haven't had a chance yet to test it with Xserver 1.7 friends, would be much obliged if somebody who is already running the whole set could quickly test it. Patch is available at http://tisch.sourceforge.net/freeglut-2.6.0-mpx-r6.patch Bug reports and suggestions are, as always, welcome. Yours, Florian signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 09:13:57AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 October 2009, Mark Kettenis wrote: I still use xinit/startx to start X, and very much *do* consider it to be an essential part of X. +1000, Amen and hip hip hooray. I have never started X any other way, and consider it the only safe way to get a gui. Please do NOT remove that. Ever. IMO 7.5 will be broken horribly if its not included. It's still there. You can still download and install it, we're just not suggesting it form a part of the default install set. We're never going to remove the code, or the tarballs. Cheers, Daniel pgpR5NzQv5ahk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Jeremy Huddleston wrote: If anyone disagrees with these, or the module versions listed as being a stable, X11R7.5-compatible version that should be included in the katamari, now is the time to speak, as at the rate we're going, we should have the X11R7.5 release finished by this time next week. ... xineramaproto 1.1.2 1.2 xinput 1.3.0 * xinit seems to be omitted... and it could use a bump too. xinit was not on the X11R7.4 katamari modules list, but is on my list of modules needing a release made. I'm not sure why it was removed - perhaps because the expectation is most users get X11 started via a display manager like gdm/kdm now? Though that wouldn't apply to Cygwin MacOS X users, so xinit would seem to be a core part of their window system. That was basically it. xinit was still in and I mentioned that there could be a problem because half the apps being run in the default xinitrc had been removed from the katamari. Ajax solved that problem by removing xinit from the katamari. :) -- Dan ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari
On Saturday 03 October 2009, Daniel Stone wrote: On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 09:13:57AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 October 2009, Mark Kettenis wrote: I still use xinit/startx to start X, and very much *do* consider it to be an essential part of X. +1000, Amen and hip hip hooray. I have never started X any other way, and consider it the only safe way to get a gui. Please do NOT remove that. Ever. IMO 7.5 will be broken horribly if its not included. It's still there. You can still download and install it, we're just not suggesting it form a part of the default install set. We're never going to remove the code, or the tarballs. Cheers, Daniel Please make it plain to the distros that it is still part of x. If there is not a dependency, I'd imagine it will get dropped. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Everybody needs a little love sometime; stop hacking and fall in love! ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
[ANNOUNCE] libXxf86dga 1.1
This one was released last week but I forgot to send the announce email. Thanks to everyone for the reminders. Just a single chance here, the requirement for xorg-macros 1.3. Peter Hutterer (2): Require macros 1.3 for XORG_DEFAULT_OPTIONS libXxf86dga 1.1 git tag: libXxf86dga-1.1 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/lib/libXxf86dga-1.1.tar.bz2 MD5: 6e3da66b0594ae1d5240e5be8ee64b32 libXxf86dga-1.1.tar.bz2 SHA1: 08972749821baba9e2aaa13637823eac8d654c8d libXxf86dga-1.1.tar.bz2 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/lib/libXxf86dga-1.1.tar.gz MD5: dc59301f0c564872a5ddf395b1b31d09 libXxf86dga-1.1.tar.gz SHA1: 1ae5156a2c25bb68092e4b1438aacae95a8492a5 libXxf86dga-1.1.tar.gz pgpgK5jcobwds.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
