Re: Problem with xorg and intel g43

2009-03-05 Thread Fabio
 If you read the old thread, you will discover that I got a working
 modeline using powerstrip under windows. I didn't know about
 cvt -v -r 1680 1050
 which I discovered reading your link: I tried it and it gives me a
 different modeline with respect to the one I found. Namely, mine is
 Modeline 1680x1050 147.600 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync 
 +vsync
 whereas cvt gives
 Modeline 1680x1050R  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840  1050 1053 1059 1080 
 +hsync -vsync
 I will give it a try: maybe this will fix the crash...!

 I doubt that it will help with the crash, because the graphics card
 should not know if the monitor cannot display the image. But who knows.

I made some tests and the result is that, at least, it looks more stable, 
which is an improvement... ;-)
To be sure, I need more time since the crash I experience is not 
deterministic: sometime it happens at boot time, just when gdm starts, 
sometimes it happens when changing user, sometime it doesn't happen at 
all!


 Anyway, if it does not work, you should definitely file a bug report.
 Only then my problem was dealt with by the intel engineer. And I do not
 know if such problems need to be send to a specific intel list to get
 help.

I will think about that, but it is diffucult to describe it since the 
resolution works fine, once manually defined, whereas the crashes, as I 
said, are quite randoms.

There is also another issue: as I wrote in a previous mail, the intel 
device is not autorecognized by knoppix. This fact is quite strange.
May I ask you which device is yours?
Mine is a G43, on integrate on the mother board  Asus P5QL-EM.
In case, can you try to boot knoppix? If you also experience the same 
problem, maybe this also could be signaled as a bug.

Regards

Fabio

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Re: Problem with xorg and intel g43

2009-03-04 Thread Fabio
Hi all,

I made more tests with regard to the problem of my monitor 
(asus vw198s) not being correctly recognized: I tried with many distros
(many flavour of ubuntu, knoppix and puppy) and the result is still the
same: it is not recognized. I also tried with a different pc, with another
graphic card (ati radeon) and I got the same result.
How can I decide wether the problem is of the model of the monitor or,
instead, of _my own_ monitor?
In the second case, I guess I am out of luck, but in the first?

I must add that, anyway, there should be also some issue related to the
driver: the hard freeze that I get every now and then when using it with
the intel device does never occur with the ati card. Moreover, when using
knoppix (the very same disk to boot on both pc) on the pc with the ati
card knoppix starts correctly, even if at a wrong resolution, while on the
pc with the intel card knoppix every time has the hard freeze I described.
I have only two way to boot knoppix, on the pc with the intel card:
1) boot in runlevel 2, then modify xorg.conf with my own modeline
(specifying also the device), then start X; this way I get a correct
1680x1050 screen.
2) provide at boot time the kernel module for X with the option
xmodule=i810
This way knoppix boot correctly but with a wrong resolution.

All this makes me think that, anyway, there should be also some issue
related to the intel module, but I can't imagine what.

Does anybody have some hint?

Many thanks

Fabio
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Re: Problem with xorg and intel g43

2009-03-04 Thread Fabio
 Dear Fabio,


 where is your first message you are referring to. Could you please post
 a link.


It is a thread of two months ago; here is the link

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-January/042176.html

 Does anybody have some hint?

 I also had problems getting the ASUS VW222S to work. Take a look at [1]
 for the hints I got to solve this.

 I can not comment on the freezes.

 [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17629


Thank you very much for this link. I see that, quite likely, there is an 
issue with this family of monitors and the intel driver but it seems 
quite hard to find it and fix it.

If you read the old thread, you will discover that I got a working 
modeline using powerstrip under windows. I didn't know about
cvt -v -r 1680 1050
which I discovered reading your link: I tried it and it gives me a 
different modeline with respect to the one I found. Namely, mine is
Modeline 1680x1050 147.600 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync 
+vsync
whereas cvt gives
Modeline 1680x1050R  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840  1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync 
-vsync
I will give it a try: maybe this will fix the crash...!

Thanks

Fabio
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Re: general question: xorg Nvdriver

2009-01-29 Thread Fabio
 Okay - thank you both. I didn't know that this is an artifact - ergo 
 useless.
 But ... I'm again, at the beginning ...
 
 Backtrace:
 0: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/bin/Xorg(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x80e829b]
 1: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/bin/Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x51) [0x809ccb1]
 2: [0xb80ea400]
 3: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/bin/Xorg(xf86SetDesiredModes+0x27b) [0x80ab18b]
 4: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so [0xb7bd612c]
 5: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so [0xb7bd6562]
 6: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/bin/Xorg(AddScreen+0x19d) [0x80684ad]
 7: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/bin/Xorg(InitOutput+0x23a) [0x808b12a]
 8: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/bin/Xorg [0x8068ba1]
 9: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7c8b685]
 10: /home/fl0/mpxcompiz/bin/Xorg [0x8068231]
 
 Fatal server error:
 Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

Maybe related to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19337 ?

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Re: 1.4 - 1.5.1 performance regressions

2009-01-28 Thread Fabio
 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:42 +0100, Fabio wrote:
   On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 11:55 +0100, Fabio wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:02 +0200, Fabio wrote:
  
  I noticed some performance regression moving to a newer system with 
  Xserver
  1.5.1 from an 1.4 system with both XAA and EXA.
 
 Can you try current Git server-1.5-branch? Adam Jackson just 
 backported
 the reduction of dixLookupPrivate() overhead, which is used 
 extensively
 by the EXA core at least. If there are still regressions with EXA, I'd
 be interested in sysprof/oprofile data separately for each regressed
 case.

I noticed that pre-1.6 is faster than 1.5.3, but still slower than 1.4.

As reported by someone in the bug report, the patch from
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16647#c11 was never
applied. Is it still needed?
   
   Have you tried it to see if it helps for the performance regressions you
   noticed?
  
  No (I am using prebuilt packages), however, according to this comment, it 
  fixes the regression:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16647#c14
 
 ... for the benchmark / workloads discussed in the bug report. Are the
 workloads you noticed the performance regression with similar to those?

I am getting these results with gtkperf, compared to what I got with
1.4. Note, however, that not all performance differences could be due
to the X server, since I upgraded all system during that time (the 
radeon driver however is almost the same):

+ - faster
- - slower
= - about the same
  1.4 1.5.99.901  Difference
GtkEntry - time:  0,090,09=
GtkComboBox  - time:  3,835,74-
GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  2,964,53-
GtkSpinButton- time:  0,510,53=
GtkProgressBar   - time:  0,270,24=
GtkToggleButton  - time:  1,340,50+
GtkCheckButton   - time:  1,440,28+
GtkRadioButton   - time:  1,790,77+
GtkTextView - Add text   - time: 11,68   11,96=
GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  2,842,22+
GtkDrawingArea - Lines   - time:  2,434,90-
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  1,863,77-
GtkDrawingArea - Text- time:  3,893,42+
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  0,300,36-
 ---
Total- time: 35,22   39,33-

See also https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16647#c24

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Re: 1.4 - 1.5.1 performance regressions

2009-01-27 Thread Fabio
 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 11:55 +0100, Fabio wrote:
   On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:02 +0200, Fabio wrote:

I noticed some performance regression moving to a newer system with 
Xserver
1.5.1 from an 1.4 system with both XAA and EXA.
   
   Can you try current Git server-1.5-branch? Adam Jackson just backported
   the reduction of dixLookupPrivate() overhead, which is used extensively
   by the EXA core at least. If there are still regressions with EXA, I'd
   be interested in sysprof/oprofile data separately for each regressed
   case.
  
  I noticed that pre-1.6 is faster than 1.5.3, but still slower than 1.4.
  
  As reported by someone in the bug report, the patch from
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16647#c11 was never
  applied. Is it still needed?
 
 Have you tried it to see if it helps for the performance regressions you
 noticed?

No (I am using prebuilt packages), however, according to this comment, it fixes 
the regression:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16647#c14

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Re: xf86-video-savage: add missing xf86CrtcConfigInit in SavagePreInit

2009-01-14 Thread Fabio
Keith Packard wrote:

 Then fix the driver to support RandR 1.2.

The intel driver should also be fixed this way - at least on i810/i815.

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Re: problem with monitor asus vw198s

2009-01-12 Thread Fabio
 CPU: intel core2duo with 4 Gb of RAM
 MB: asus p5ql-em
 VGA: intel g43 (integrated on the MB)
 Monitor: asus vw198s

 I installed ubuntu 8.10 (amd64).

 The first problem is that the correct resolution of the monitor
 (1680x1050) is not recognized out of the box: after installation, it ran
 at a lower resolution (1360x768) and I was not able to change it.
 This surprised me.
 I couldn't find on the net a valid modeline for my monitor, so
 I followed the instructions on

 http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes#head-82230a582646cbf28ac41dec2139732ee868e0d2
 to obtain a valid modeline using powerstrip.
 I got the following

 Modeline 1680x1050 147.600 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087
 -hsync +vsync

 Is this ok? It looks like, since I put it into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 and, this way, the resolution is correct.

So, there is no way to get somewhere a good modeline for this monitor, or 
get it automatically recognized by xorg? Is it such a rare monitor?
It seems strange to me to have problem with an asus monitor attached to an 
asus M/B (asus is one of the more open brand) and, moreover, with an 
Intel VGA: I have choosen Intel just because their drivers are open, so I 
thought to be safe with respects to the problems with I had with some 
Ati/Nvidia VGA  :-(((


 But now it comes another problem: sometime (not everytime) when I logout
 to change user instead of the usual gdm greeting I get that the monitor
 has no signal and goes automatically in poweroff: the only thing that I
 can do is an hard reboot of the pc.
 I can't understand the origin of this problem.

 There have been bugs with VT switching on intel recently. These are
 being fixed, so it may be best here to file a bug with Ubuntu and wait
 for the fixes to flow down.

 I made more googling in the afternoon and it seems that the issue is more
 with the framebuffer that with the intel driver.
 I had a try removing the fb, that is with options
 quiet nosplash video=vesa:off vga=normal
 for grub: apparently, the problem disappeared. At least, it didn't reproduce
 for at least 10 login/logout.
 (This is why I changed the subject)

 Of course I can live without the framebuffer and the splash screen, but
 I would prefer if there is a way to recover it ...  :-)

Well, the truth is that the problem appeared again... :-(((
But I don't know how to do to COMPLETELY remove the framebuffer: even with
quiet nosplash video=vesa:off vga=normal
the framebuffer is still inside the initrd.img: how do I remove it from 
there?
Moreover it seems from the log that the module fbcon is loaded from X: how 
do I prevent this?

All in all: I would like to start a system with NO KIND of framebuffer: 
just the console and X started by gdm. How do I achieve this?

Thanks

Fabio
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Re: problem with monitor asus vw198s

2009-01-07 Thread Fabio

CPU: intel core2duo with 4 Gb of RAM
MB: asus p5ql-em
VGA: intel g43 (integrated on the MB)
Monitor: asus vw198s

I installed ubuntu 8.10 (amd64).

The first problem is that the correct resolution of the monitor
(1680x1050) is not recognized out of the box: after installation, it ran
at a lower resolution (1360x768) and I was not able to change it.
This surprised me.
I couldn't find on the net a valid modeline for my monitor, so
I followed the instructions on
http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes#head-82230a582646cbf28ac41dec2139732ee868e0d2
to obtain a valid modeline using powerstrip.
I got the following

Modeline 1680x1050 147.600 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync 
+vsync

Is this ok? It looks like, since I put it into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
and, this way, the resolution is correct.


I'm not sure if the bug is because of the intel driver or because of
the monitor. It would probably help to attach Xorg.0.log from the
failed attempt before you added the Modeline. It might also be
interesting to look at the output from xrandr -q which shows what
modes X thinks are available.



I restored the original xorg.conf. The relative Xorg.0.log is attached.
As to xrandr -q, the output is

[coccobill 21:13:28 ~]$ xrandr -q
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1152 x 864, maximum 1360 x 1360
VGA connected 1152x864+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm 
x 0mm

   1360x768   59.8
   1152x864   60.0*
   1024x768   60.0
   800x60060.3
   640x48059.9
HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[coccobill 21:13:44 ~]$



But now it comes another problem: sometime (not everytime) when I logout
to change user instead of the usual gdm greeting I get that the monitor
has no signal and goes automatically in poweroff: the only thing that I
can do is an hard reboot of the pc.
I can't understand the origin of this problem.


There have been bugs with VT switching on intel recently. These are
being fixed, so it may be best here to file a bug with Ubuntu and wait
for the fixes to flow down.


I made more googling in the afternoon and it seems that the issue is more 
with the framebuffer that with the intel driver.

I had a try removing the fb, that is with options
quiet nosplash video=vesa:off vga=normal
for grub: apparently, the problem disappeared. At least, it didn't 
reproduce for at least 10 login/logout.

(This is why I changed the subject)

Of course I can live without the framebuffer and the splash screen, but
I would prefer if there is a way to recover it ...  :-)

TIA

Fabio
X.Org X Server 1.5.2
Release Date: 10 October 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-16-server x86_64 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux coccobill 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 
22:15:32 UTC 2008 x86_64
Build Date: 24 October 2008  09:06:49AM
xorg-server 2:1.5.2-2ubuntu3 (bui...@crested.buildd) 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Jan  7 21:12:39 2009
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
(**) |--Screen Default Screen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Configured Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Configured Video Device
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) No FontPath specified.  Using compiled-in default.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable 
AllowEmptyInput.
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) Loader magic: 0x7b7320
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0...@0:2:0) Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics 
Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xfe40/4194304, 0xe000/268435456, I/O @ 
0xdc00/8
(--) PCI: (0...@0:2:1) Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics

[no subject]

2009-01-06 Thread Fabio

Hi all,

I am having a strange problem and I can't find any help either googling or 
on the x.org site.

I have just bought a new pc: the components are

CPU: intel core2duo with 4 Gb of RAM
MB: asus p5ql-em
VGA: intel g43 (integrated on the MB)
Monitor: asus vw198s

I installed ubuntu 8.10 (amd64).

The first problem is that the correct resolution of the monitor 
(1680x1050) is not recognized out of the box: after installation, it ran 
at a lower resolution (1360x768) and I was not able to change it.
This surprised me.
I couldn't find on the net a valid modeline for my monitor, so
I followed the instructions on
http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes#head-82230a582646cbf28ac41dec2139732ee868e0d2
to obtain a valid modeline using powerstrip.
I got the following

Modeline 1680x1050 147.600 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync 
+vsync

Is this ok? It looks like, since I put it into /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
and, this way, the resolution is correct.

But now it comes another problem: sometime (not everytime) when I logout 
to change user instead of the usual gdm greeting I get that the monitor 
has no signal and goes automatically in poweroff: the only thing that I 
can do is an hard reboot of the pc.
I can't understand the origin of this problem.

Thanks a lot for your help

Fabio
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Problem with xorg and intel g43

2009-01-06 Thread Fabio

I am sorry but I realized just now that I forgot the subject in my 
previous mail: I guess that this subject should be adequate.

Thanks

Fabio

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Re: 1.4 - 1.5.1 performance regressions

2008-10-09 Thread Fabio

 On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:02 +0200, Fabio wrote:
  
  I noticed some performance regression moving to a newer system with Xserver
  1.5.1 from an 1.4 system with both XAA and EXA.
 
 Can you try current Git server-1.5-branch? Adam Jackson just backported
 the reduction of dixLookupPrivate() overhead, which is used extensively
 by the EXA core at least. If there are still regressions with EXA, I'd
 be interested in sysprof/oprofile data separately for each regressed
 case.

I can't update at the moment (I am using prebuilt packages from Ubuntu). Can 
you point the fix? I don't see it at:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/log/?h=server-1.5-branch

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1.4 - 1.5.1 performance regressions

2008-10-09 Thread Fabio
Hi,
I noticed some performance regression moving to a newer system with Xserver
1.5.1 from an 1.4 system with both XAA and EXA.
As a benchmark I am using GtkPerf [0] with gtkperf -a -c500 without compiz on
a MacBook Pro with a Radeon RV530. While I noticed some improvement going from
1.5 to 1.5.1, 1.5.1 is still slower than 1.4. This may be related to recent
report of slowness (thread
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-October/039164.html). My
reference systems are:
1) 1.4 system: installed system with Ubuntu 8.04 with xserver 1.4, kernel
2.6.24 + backported -ati driver, radeon drm module, libdrm, mesa (used many
recent git version);
2) 1.5.1 system: LiveCD Ubuntu 8.10 with xserver 1.5.1, kernel 2.6.27-rc9
recent -ati git snapshot, radeon drm module from kernel, libdrm 2.3.1, mesa 7.1.

Does someone is able to reproduce this regressions, maybe changing only the
xserver? Is there some known bug?

[0] http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download

GtkPerf benchmark results:

1.4 system, XAA:
GtkEntry - time:  0,09
GtkComboBox - time:  4,10
GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  3,47
GtkSpinButton - time:  0,50
GtkProgressBar - time:  0,27
GtkToggleButton - time:  1,48
GtkCheckButton - time:  1,55
GtkRadioButton - time:  1,88
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 11,63
GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  7,23
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  1,13
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  1,84
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 29,33
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  3,57
 ---
Total time: 68,07

1.5.1 system, XAA:
GtkEntry - time:  0,15
GtkComboBox - time:  6,81
GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  3,57
GtkSpinButton - time:  0,99
GtkProgressBar - time:  0,49
GtkToggleButton - time:  0,83
GtkCheckButton - time:  0,44
GtkRadioButton - time:  1,47
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 13,45
GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  2,52
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  2,49
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  3,39
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 45,16
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  4,36
 ---
Total time: 86,12

1.4 system, EXA:
GtkEntry - time:  0,09
GtkComboBox - time:  3,83
GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  2,96
GtkSpinButton - time:  0,51
GtkProgressBar - time:  0,27
GtkToggleButton - time:  1,34
GtkCheckButton - time:  1,44
GtkRadioButton - time:  1,79
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 11,68
GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  2,84
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  2,43
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  1,86
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  3,89
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  0,30
 ---
Total time: 35,22

1.5.1 system, EXA:
GtkEntry - time:  0,16
GtkComboBox - time:  6,52
GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  3,93
GtkSpinButton - time:  0,83
GtkProgressBar - time:  0,40
GtkToggleButton - time:  1,19
GtkCheckButton - time:  0,55
GtkRadioButton - time:  1,45
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 13,90
GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  2,23
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  5,48
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  4,04
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  6,94
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  0,36
 ---
Total time: 47,97

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