Re: problem getting pseudocolor

2009-09-02 Thread Jerome Glisse
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:24 -0500, Neil Smith wrote:
 CentOS 5.3 on dual-boot Apple Aluminum iMac with ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT  
 card.
 
 If I specify in /etc/X11/xorg.conf a screen0 with depth 8, X11 can't  
 start up, giving error of 'invalid depth = -1'.
 
 First off, is this video capable of 8 bit pseudocolor in the X11  
 shipped with CentOS 5.3 distro?
 
 I don't know what the specs are for this monitor ... like horz and  
 vert refresh ranges, if that even matters in this situation. Does  
 anyone have an example xorg.conf, or the relevant sections, to get  
 pseudocolor on an Alu iMac?
 
 Thanks,
 -Neil


We don't test/use pseudocolor much, i don't even know if it's supposed
to work. Why do you want pseudocolor ? You should really stick with
RGB32bits visual.

Cheers,
Jerome Glisse

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Re: problem getting pseudocolor

2009-09-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 09:41 +0100, David Gerard wrote: 
 2009/9/2 Jerome Glisse gli...@freedesktop.org:
 
  We don't test/use pseudocolor much, i don't even know if it's supposed
  to work. Why do you want pseudocolor ? You should really stick with
  RGB32bits visual.
 
 
 I would guess: shitty, shitty vertical-market proprietary software
 that thinks it's 1990 and DEMANDS 8-bit colour, and won't run in
 24-bit colour. I've encountered this stuff. Awful, awful. And
 occasionally necessary.

Those who need that should consider working on

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4770


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Re: problem getting pseudocolor

2009-09-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/2 Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net:
 On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 09:41 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
 2009/9/2 Jerome Glisse gli...@freedesktop.org:

  We don't test/use pseudocolor much, i don't even know if it's supposed
  to work. Why do you want pseudocolor ? You should really stick with
  RGB32bits visual.

 I would guess: shitty, shitty vertical-market proprietary software
 that thinks it's 1990 and DEMANDS 8-bit colour, and won't run in
 24-bit colour. I've encountered this stuff. Awful, awful. And
 occasionally necessary.

 Those who need that should consider working on
 http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4770


Yeah, it's part of that 20 years' backward compatibility with
horrible stuff problem, and dragging X11 kicking and screaming into
the twenty-first century :-)

Usually the vertical market software companies in question deal with
it by certifying on a very narrow range of OSes, rather than e.g.
filing or fixing bugs. Somewhat less than ideal.


- d.
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Re: problem getting pseudocolor

2009-09-02 Thread Patrick O'Donnell
From: Michel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= mic...@daenzer.net
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:45:36 +0200
Sender: xorg-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org

On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 09:41 +0100, David Gerard wrote: 
 2009/9/2 Jerome Glisse gli...@freedesktop.org:
 ... DEMANDS 8-bit colour, and won't run in 24-bit colour. ...

Those who need that should consider working on

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4770


Indeed.  A four-year-old bug report (priority: High).  Then we have:


Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:09:49 +0100
From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com

Usually the vertical market software companies in question deal with
it by certifying on a very narrow range of OSes, rather than e.g.
filing or fixing bugs. Somewhat less than ideal.

Yes, on both sides of the coin.

And,

Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:41:36 +0100
From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com

I would guess: shitty, shitty  ... Awful, awful. And
occasionally necessary.

Those tasked with maintaining old software that was written when
8-bit frame buffers were expensive, but which is still used in
critical applications have the same lack-of-time and prioritization
issues that X developers have.

I'd think that a bit more charity could be shown to those also
struggling in the trenches.  Different trenches -- same struggle.

- Pat
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